I read the first chapters again and i have some thoughts; i read it untill chapter 17 and i physically couldnt go any further from that; so please hear me out.
Ill sum up the first 4 chapters bcuz i find those the most messed up times in this story (IMO)
This will be long.
We get an introduction to jae then dan; we learn abt dans past experience with gay attraction (harassment) and we get a clear thought on how he think of it. (Tbh iw ouldnt be suprised if he was homophobic cuz that shit eould lead to such prejudice)
Dan experience with it is just traumatizing; he didnt only get harassed by a figure he idolized (his boss) he also got fired and victim blamed for it. Dan is now left with the idea that his looks and him in general is for the blame to all of this.
Anyways after the introduction Dan gets a new job as the jae's gym p.t, dan gives jae a p.t session.
I want to point something out when dan accidentaly touched jae's penis i think jae had some disgusting thoughts abt a man he just met; the only reason he didnt hit him is bcuz he saw him as a potential sex toy.
ANYWAYS. Jae invites dan for a "physical therapy session" (which i want to add; why did he lie?? He could've said "i want to have sex with you" but he didnt. This makes me believe he said that on purpose only to drag dan into his trap to pressure him into having intercourse. IMO he knew what he was doing)
We then know jae is gay, but i want to mention the dude he had over. Did you see the way he treated him??? He completely discarded his feelings and his plessure bcuz he simply didnt like it, he then proceed to smash his face into a wall becuz the man made fun of him and wished him the worst (which is VERY understandable) he then pays the man money to shut him up (?)
This man has no empathy or understanding to the ppl around him, he is narcissism if it was a person. (I wnat to add too; he called the man a whore when he is a one too. He literally invited a man he met once to fuck. He is slut-shaming when is the biggest slut in the room)
dan gets ready to start his p.t session as he is intended to do, jae tells him the reason he is here for as he pressures him to have sex with him (he makes his offer tempting and irresistible when it really isnt) dan then without thinking agrees to doing so, he then makes an excuse to go take a bath since he stinks and that when we see what dan would have said if he had time to think.
Dan is VERY conflicted in the shower he ponders if he should leave and not do this (bcuz thats what he really wants to do) but jae goes in his shower; which i find very disgusting. How could he get so comfortable to walk into someoen while they are showing to ahve sec with you??? Have some shame. (This also shows how many times jae had sex ehich supports that he is a slut )
He forces dan onto the bed but dan then confesses that he wants to bail out. Jae THREATENS him, WTF??? He uses the other dude as a way to show what he will do to him if he leaves now he says something like: "dont think ill send you home safe and sound" which is like very. Un-consensual.
After a bit more threatening and nonconsensual sex, jae talks dirty to him saying something like: "how many men have you been with/put it in you" which makes dan disgusted (due to his past traumas and generally bcuz this is simply disgusting. Jae is again here slut-shaming him) dan says and this completely what he says:
"I dont wanna be anywhere near him anymore... i dont want to hear this kind of talk... i just want this to be over" which is tbh heart-wrenching. It broke my heart.
After all that. Dan goes home and jaes wins his fight. Jae comes to the conclusion that consensual sex isnt for him anymore; he liked the rape way too much he wants dan to be his physical therapist (sextoy) but dan isnt anywhere near, he stopped replying to anyone at all whoever it is.
Dan is in his home. Depressed. Defeated. Violated. He couldnt pull himself out of bed to go to his other jobs. And other than that his aggressor is calling him non-stop for wtvvs reason; he called somehting supposidly intemate "a living nightmare" which omg i couldnt help but take it personally. The way he took this is very conceived as SA survivor trying to cope; it hurts to watch. And even through all this he still stands up nad goes to take care of his grandma. What a strong man.
One last thought and ill leave quietly; if the author truly intended for this to be seen as a rape survivor; i truly would congratulate her. She captured the way a SA survivor might feel after the deed but it sucks since she is probably romanticizing it.
Ill end it here; if you have any disagreement with the way i summed it up, please tell me! We will talk and discuss things like adults.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you sm for re-reading it so now I don't have to I debated whether I should but didn't think I could withstand it.
You actually brought up a LOT I never noticed. I only read the begging of what you said so far since I have to leave soon, but even that much was still new to me:
Dan having issues with his boss and being blamed for something he didn't do wrong might be one of many reasons why he's so meek. I wish he'd get more frustrated and stick up for himself more, if he had more confidence things might go more smoothly.
I was getting frustrated with Dan not being more forward, but dealing with past trauma, having to step up and take care of his grandma, and deal with his personal life issues all at once, while having to make a big decision with someone high profile? That makes some more sense.
I will read the rest of this later but thanks for explaining so much
Can we take a moment to mention the STRUGGLES bottoms have in bl comic?
Why does the author always bash their entire existence by ruining their entire lives?
Its either bl author have a big problems with bottoms (same) or they love seeing ppl (bottoms, but are they even ppl tho?) suffer.
Istg they be giving them the most messed up heart wrenching stories seen by man kind; they'd be struggling with an abusive partner; stalker ex; low LOW self worth; depression; anxiety; no mommy no daddy; financial problems; sexaully abused; drugs and alcohol and believe me the list goes on.
And let me mention this all happens at the SAME TIME. Like god be hating on these poor dick-likers like they were h*tler in their past lives
Tbh bottoms are so strong, they handle all that shit while crying only once an hour or something; lets praise the bottoms boys for that.
But after all the repetitive slaps by the author; a charming young top with killer abs sweeps the fucked up everyday bottom off their feet (they had a pretty face) and saves them from literally EVRYTHING. "Dont speak to me abt therapy cuz i found myself a top ladies and gentlemen" - the bottom probably
I mean dont get me wrong tops have their struggles too; like being too rich, having mommy/daddy issues, not being able to gay, and such horrendous struggles
Its even more ridiculous because its target audience is females and women. This might sound somewhat sexist but i have no other way of saying this. Fujoshit women hate sexual assault, rape and domestic violence until its a man being abused. They dont care because 1, this kind of material wont impact them since it only dehumanises male vicitms and 2, they cant relate to this enough to sympathise with it. I often see the argument that vicitims want to see a rekationship where a victim and an abuser get through their 'struggles' and persevere because LOVE beats ANYTHING but really these survivors need therapy since their view of love is so distorted and warped they cant comprehend why this kind of romanticisation is harmful. Just a thought though ().
Your wording might sound sexist, but i agree with your point. Male victims arent talked abt as much and the fact many ppl even sexualize it to this degree is just insane. The double standard is crazy, bcuz if it was a woman in this type of story with a man; nobody would be okay with it (colleen hoover moment)
If someone blocks you, you let it go.
But making a call out post over an argument in a comment sections definitely silly, it shows you really care about what they think. You probably need to take a break.
It seems like some people are still taking it too personally it's a story, and again there is nothing to defend? We can hate it if we want, but I still don't understand why others feel the need to retaliate on the hate??? It's hated for a good reason.
You're acting no better and also seem like a troll. So.
I can’t respond to the Purky’s lies on Yumytoo topic.
Mikaela anyone would understand that and not make a comment. You exposed yourself as troll.
I was defending the truth you would be defending yourself or stand up with me if you were a good faith actor. Stop raping us.
Purky stop raping us.
Only cowardly people would troll.
Bro now YOU'RE trolling. You're repeating things and saying 'purky stop rping us'
And you keep calling it 'the truth' when you argued that anyone is allowed their opinion?
No one is rping anyone?? What does this even mean, please log off and touch grass I do feel bad, you fr need a BREAK
You're acting no better bfr
How about if one block you and still attacks you. I am defending my self. I don’t know who your comment is for but it definitely doesn’t fit me or the situation. I don’t care about what they think but I care about the truth. You probably need to take a break to understand the situation if you are meaning me. This isn’t about the story. Attacks on me and 3 others are not the story. There is no reason to hate us. One was a rape survivor. You don’t understand the situation to justify my behavior or call me a troll. I am right to defend myself. Try to understand the situation.
Trolling tactics don’t work on me. I know I am not a troll. I am not trolling and that means nothing coming from a third account of toilet’s. I am not sorry the story doesn’t have your view point attacking us doesn’t change it.
When you judge others you don’t define them, you define yourself. If you are saying someone is delulu you are saying you are. If you are saying get help that is for you. We don’t value your trolling tactics or insults. I am only defending myself.
Dude. You don't understand.
You don't NEED to defend yourself, you shouldn't let some words hurt you. You can totally drop it and go take a spa day. You guys are over analyzing shit and taking it personally. And this is from a hyper-sensitive person, you ARE taking it to heart. Just let it go, you don't need to explain yourself because your 'truth' is still just your opinion.
And I'm sorry it happened, but being a survivor doesn't make you an all-knowing person.
That doesn't make sense and again, it just makes it personal.
No one is judging you. because we don't care about you. We don't even know who you are.
Go drink some water. Quit defending yourself and go breathe. You don't care about us, because we are nothing to you. Go chill.
This is for mi amor. I think they blocked me. (I am so confused rn)
I am so confused rn, what did i do
When did i "rape" you dude, this is so cringe. I cant imagine you comparing a debate on the internet on an illegal website to a real life crime, touch so grass ASAP.
I cant belive you went to this post to "expose" me. Its actually embarrassing.
They all took it personally
Getting heated over an argument? Fine. That happens, I understand. But log off and take a break at least.
They also just made it personal and won't let it go. ALL of them from what I see.
Nobody is acting better than the other but I think being balls deep to defend yourself is just sad. LET IT GO.
At least go create a topic in the forums or smth, don't continue an already finished argument in someone else's comment??
Can you do me a tiny favor. You seem like an honest person and i want you judgement.
I ahve been in a convo with one of the ppl who are fighting here and i am seen as a wrong, i srsly cant tell if i am or not so can you please be the judge of that?
Here is the link to the original thread
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14188123/
Sir done— whatever the fuck
Stop talking dumbass you are the one not understanding. She is justified. She has every right to defend herself and us. So understand the situation or don’t put advice in to look like a dumbass. I laughed at your message. It was a joke.
No one is judging her? You have no clue. Stop talking dumbass.
Mi Amore is not the rape survivor. We are 4 different people. Mi Amore cares about anyone she meets. She is caring person. You don’t know the situation or her. Stop talking dumbass.
And you will not be in-biased in the 5 page topic. Because purky thinks he is being attacked. He is not. He will not apologize. You two are trolling.
I actually understand her. You guys are attacking her. You have the balls to call an assault a debate. You are want is embarrassing. Your comment here is what she is talking about. Stop raping her. You are attacking good people who just pissed you off that they told you the story is dubcon and not noncon. You need the story to be noncon. You crave the story to be noncon. You attack the ones saying it is dubcon. Why are you not attacking Yumytoo who is attacking Mi Amore? You are troll who hates the truth. They will still post the truth. You will not stop them. They have snapshots of what was said too. They will call out your lies each time.
You are the ones crying. You are the ones harassing us because you need a story to be noncon when it is dubcon. You harassed the ones saying it was dubcon. You harassed and attacked them because you craved a noncon story. You need it be a noncon story. They stood up and defending themselves from your attacks.
You are the whining bitches. Mikaela stop acting like the 4 of us are you.
You guys keep attacking her over a story. She is the victim here. We are the victims. The four of us are the victims.
Tora is your victim
I am your victim
Rose is your victim
Mi Amore is your victim
You and your friends are not victims. You are the aggressors.
She explains..
“ I am going more for the causes of rape.
The psychological motivations of rapists are more complex than was formerly thought. They may include the desire to punish, to gain revenge, to cause pain, to prove sexual prowess, and to control through fear.
Yumytoo fits 4 out of 5. Most trolls fits 4 out of 5. Yumytoo called stalking and making other lies. Purky/toilet is lying. I am not throwing it out. I meant it. You think this is some funny game. Yumytoo raped me and 3 others. Purky/ toilet raped me and 3 others for a sick game or trolling. Do you guys even see what you are even doing. It is sickening. Stop and look at how you been treating us”
They were saying the story was dubcon. When they said it was not rape, they were not meaning it was a romantic sexual encounter or whatever you thought it was not rape meant. Stop whining and stop attacking them. They are Dan here. You are Joo.
Yeah, so y'all were having a normal convo (no disagreements, there was mutual understanding about the discussion and nothing was being argued). Things were being explained to Rev the the conversation was going rather fine.
Then Mi Amore (idk their pronouns) randomly butts in with a paragraph and again: drags strangers into unwanted petty drama that no one wants.
They wrote a paragraph about "ohh well, I don't like this person, they make me uncomfortable, so don't talk to them because I don't like them, and I don't agree with their opinions" crap. And yet they comment? That doesn't make sense and seems very silly.
If someone makes you so uncomfortable to the point of...all of this chaos, shouldn't you ignore them??
Anyway. They just go on and on about "I've had my profile since 2019" and "that other profile is trolling" and constantly making themselves out to be a victim needing sympathy. They also come as far to say,
And I hate using this word since it's so over-used these days but: they are definitely acting like a hypocrite. Saying that others are bad and then acting out with the same behaviour. It feels a little narcissistic in my opinion, but who know.
And while it isn't a straight up lie from them, they're also claiming their POV is the only ''correct'' one/the truth: no one is finding this funny, no one is bullying them, and no one is ''projecting criminal behaviour". Whatever that means.
No one should be so invested in the story that they have a 'mental breakdown' over it.
I'm sorry my response took long, it took a while to read and I also had to take a break reading, my head hurts.
I'm no starting to wonder if they're an adult because all of this is absolutely ridiculous.
I don't think you were ever wrong, I agree that EVERYONE can tone it down, but after telling them to drop it, it just seems they get upset and respond over and over again anyway. So ignoring them might be best yeah. Tora is very annoying and self righteous. After trying to have a conversation, it just always turned into an argument with them.
I like trying to see other's points of view, and I am good at understanding.
It seems they don't understand that I and others can understand their POV but still disagree. They don't need to try and argue and MAKE us agree.
No one has been joking about rape except them at this point, saying that someone online cane rape you is the most ludicrous and out of pocket thing I've ever heard.
Forgot a piece: They also come as far to say "Purky this is the first time we talked that I can think of. So this isn’t about you before you think that." making you feel singled out and also saying "I would rather talk to this person instead of someone toxic"
It's not always about you?? Your are not the MC. And again, if you don't like someone and you feel they are toxic, don't initiate with them! Ignore it, and go relax.
I can't understand that part or see where any sense lies within.
"I'm going out of my way to help you" no, just leave people alone. No one asked for their 'help', and I'm tired of the arguments because none of them want to listen to our side. We've already heard their side over and over, and after constant disagreeing, it turned into drama.
Sorry for all the responses, I just wanna make sure there is clarity.
also don't forget to drink water whoever reads this. It's hot and dehydration is NOT fun
I read all your replies and i am only going to reply to this one bcux i agree to everything you said. It was insane being attacked by 3 people at the same time, it felt odd bcuz i didnt know it i was truly wrong or not. Thank you for being honest and taking the time to read those petty comments.
And thank you for the water reminder it is pretty hot and a cup of water is refreshing
Haha. Biased. Sir donewith you failed. There was a disagreement or two. The problem wasn’t Mi Amore. It was Purky or you other accounts next reply. The drama was caused by Purky. She has toilet blocked. She has a purpose in writing that but you can’t be an adult. You have to child. She is the victim. She is not making her self out to be a victim but the problem is she stands up to the trolls. She is not a hypocrite. You are. She never acted in the same behavior. Liar. She raping Mi Amore. You comment is bullying Mi Amore. You have been bullying her all day. She ain’t narcissistic either.
You are wrong. So is purky. Tora isn’t self righteous. You are selling all this because he is right. I have to ask Tora he is better at decoding. It is you and your friends that turn it into a fight or argument. Tora is one of the best at understanding others POV. You are attacking us for a different POV. It is you that is arguing and forcing us to agree. It is agree with you or be a rape apologist. You are talking about yourself. Not Tora. Not Mi Amore. Not me. You are talking about yourself and your friends.
Toilet joke about rape. None of us have. This is what Mi Amore is talking about. You just rape her and Tora. You can’t stop the attacks because they have a different opinion and it is your opinion or they are rape apologist. The problem is not Tora or Mi Amore. It is you and your friends.
DUDE. LET IT GO.
No one is the problem. Why don't you understand that? It takes two to tango, no one serparetly is at fault. Quit pointing fingers and dragging out petty drama, knock it off. I am not reading all of that crap
block us and shut up please. your POV isn't correct either, you're also biased. stop it
No one is a victim it's an online argument dude. you are way too in deep.
EVERYONE has different opinions, but you can't seem to understand that. No one is forcing you to agree?
That never ever happened. I'm sorry if you came to that conclusion yourself, but you really need to stop. You're acting no better, and are acting rather egotistical
You are the same person. No one attacked you. Stop playing victim when you are the aggressor. You messed with Tora when you could had a conversation. You could had responded differently to Mi Amore. You are to blame.
You agreed to all lies. It was biased because it was you reviewing it that posted more lies. You now just raped Mi Amore and Tora again.
What I was was the truth. What you was all lies. You made Mi Amore the problem she is the victim. Purky is at fault. He could respond differently to Mi Amore or not mess with Tora. You are biased. Not me. People are victims on online. Your lies are lies. Look above cyber bullying.
Mi Amore is your victim. I am your victim. Tora is your victim.
To agree with your opinion or be a rape apologist or sicko or whatever. That is forcing us.
I agree with the story. Dubcon. Get stuffed. Mi Amore never deserved this. Tora didn’t either. Grow the fuck up. Stop raping us.
You are definitely most absolutely a troll... can't change my mind now.
I cannot genuinely believe I tried understand you and your take on all of this. None of it makes sense. At all.
And again: You're preaching about how everyone can have their POV, and yet you argue that only yours is right? How does that make sense? Or maybe you're just really upset about it all, which means you should log off and take a break.
And you say that we're trying to make you agree? It's hypocritical. You're not saying anything new, it looks like you just want to argue. Again, log off and take a break.
You are just as bad, quit being egotistical and calling yourself a victim, it's very sad.
You are claiming I am troll. I am not a troll. You are the pathetic troll. I stop reading after you said you genuinely tried to understand. You never did. I am not wasting my time. I don’t care about your lies. You never understand the conversation or what happened. Your opinion is invalid. I am not a dumbass troll like you.
I missed this “ Purky this is the first time we talked that I can think of. So this isn’t about you before you think that." making you feel singled out and also saying "I would rather talk to this person instead of someone toxic"
Omg. What the fuck!!!!!!!!
She did not single him out.
She wanted him to be sure she was not talking about him before he jumped to that wild ass conclusion. You reading comprehension sucks!!
You are just single her out.
However Purky is toilet. She was talking about him.
Her comment went over your head. How fucking disgusting to change her words.
Only Toilet has made jokes about rape. Get over it.
“We've already heard their side over and over, and after constant disagreeing, it turned into drama”. You heard the story side over and over, and after constant attacking them. You make this drama. You attacked them. Get the fucking facts straight or is that too much for a troll?
My word is nothing compared to yours. If I am a troll. You are definitely a troll. Mikaela that is you and “the gang” has Purky blocked. They are blocking the trolls. I think I will follow you gang. Your gang will have to go find another victim to pass the time way.
We are not trolls. We are not trolling you. We are not attacking you besides me acting like two of you.
Look at what you have said about them.
Can you please not compare attacking someone to disagreeing with them. It is fucking disgusting.
THIS IS NOT A DISAGREEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!
It is a DISGUSTING ATTACK on someone who disagrees with you. Stop attacking (raping) them because they see the story for what it is.
They are not the story. You are attacking us. Disagree all you want but the threads show you are lying. I don’t think I flat said you were either. I have to check.
The correct word for what you think is happening would be Cyber-stalking, a technologically based attack on one person or a certain group of people for reasons based on anger, revenge or control on that/those individual/ s. Im not attacking any of you right now but think what you want though, because it seems like your twitter victim complex cant be fazed by reality.
I wasn’t…. Oh god….. you were calling us a gang. So I …. Wait… thinking about you have a hive-mind and have the same opinion.
We don’t.
I suggested. Borg or We are borg.
None of you can think for yourself besides picking a victim and attack!
We are the borg you will be assimilated resistance is futile or you will be called a rape apologist who needs professional help or other gruesome word because I can’t handle you having another opinion from my own or speaking the truth of the story.
We are borg. We are trolls. We will call you troll when you stand up to us because we are insecure.
I know this is a lot but I thought about this carefully now.
Can you take a moment to breathe and think about what you're typing out? It sounds really silly what you are saying. I am not meaning to 'attack' or insult you, I am "just stating the facts". And the facts are you sound really ridiculous right now. I
t's not even an argument with a conclusion anymore, you're just arguing to argue. For some reason. Still.
Genuinely. No one is attacking you right now or calling you names anymore, even though you still are.
So listen.
I don't know why you can't relax and have a normal discussion like a normal person.
You have called others names too. You have spread lies too. You keep commenting on other's strangers comments and spreading the drama to those who don't need it. That is childish and petty. Don't drag others into this.
You are not correct either. In any of this. Why is that so hard for you to understand? You haven't done anything less of us. Understand that.
"stand up to us" who is us?? We are not one person or a 'gang'.
Stand up? What is this, a rebellion? This is a manga site... and I'm sure most the people who see this ignore it, don't care or are laughing at our silly arguments.
Also how is 'rape apologist' a gruesome word? You guys were only called that because you kept saying it wasn't rape over and over.
These are rhetorical by the way, don't answer them.
The only insecure people I see is you. It's beyond frustrating trying to make an effort to listen and see someone else's POV, only for them to act weird, offish, troll, make little to no sense, act snarky and superior, and then after all of that: claim that you have done absolutely nothing wrong?? As if you're incapable of doing wrong?
Why can't you admit to it? Seems like an ego or insecurity issue. Genuinely. I give up trying to understand. You make no sense at all. Or your affiliate who agree with you.
Actually, I would've loved to continue to debate whether it's specifically rape, coercion, or dubcon/noncon etc. I don't wanna debate to be right, I wanna debate to find the right answer. But it seems you guys took it personally and got upset over the debate. Because we didn't immediatly agree with your opinion that it isn't rape ~specifically~.
But that is how debates work; we're supposed to go back and forth till we figure out an answer to agree on, but so many of you came out of nowhere and started saying...so much SHIT. And again took it all to heart.
It's really strange, and it is in fact screaming insecure. We are not making you agree with us. You can have your opinion. But that also means you can't make us agree with you. I think you don't understand that part? Correct me if I'm wrong here.
Hope you get better soon. Again, I highly recommend logging off and taking a spa day because arguing for the sake of arguing isn't healthy, and that's all you've been doing all day long. Let it go.
Or go back to twitter, because nobody here needs any of this. Why can't you ignore us and put it all behind you?
Again. for the umpteenth time, why can you not drop it? This was all a big mess. And all are in the wrong, not just one person. Accept that you are also at fault. Jesus.
I think I've had enough of this frrr
This was a different kind of comment.
“It sounds really silly what you are saying.” = Trolling.
I am not meaning to 'attack' or insult you, I am "just stating the facts. And the facts are you sound really ridiculous right now.” Trolling
“you're just arguing to argue.” I don’t, you guys do.
“Genuinely. No one is attacking you right now or calling you names anymore, even though you still are.” Technically you are attacking me and I am not attacking like you guys but I am only returning what is given.
“ I don't know why you can't relax and have a normal discussion like a normal person.” I am relax and have been I only returned what I received that is for you and your friends.
“You have called others names too.” Only I have but that being purky returning what he gave.
“You have spread lies too.” Lie. Lie. Lie.
“You keep commenting on other's strangers comments and spreading the drama to those who don't need it.”
That is a lie. Your friends started a new conversation and talked about us showing they don’t understand.
“ That is childish and petty.” Yes so why did you guys do it.
“Don't drag others into this.” Take that damn advice.
“You are not correct either.” I am.
“Why is that so hard for you to understand?” Same question because you have not understood what happened here at all why preach to me. I told you to shut up or understand. You still don’t understand. You are not stopping this. You are making it continue with not understanding.
“ You haven't done anything less of us.” You and others have did far worse than I have. Understand that. You are the aggressors here.
"”stand up to us" who is us?? We are not one person or a 'gang'.” That is just plain ridiculous. Shut up or understand.
“Stand up? What is this, a rebellion?” Stand up to the trolling and attacks.
“This is a manga site... and I'm sure most the people who see this ignore it, don't care or are laughing at our silly arguments.” Trolling. Attacking others isn’t arguments. This isn’t an argument.
“ Also how is 'rape apologist' a gruesome word?” It is a gruesome word get with the program.
“You guys were only called that because you kept saying it wasn't rape over and over.” No. Stop lying.
“The only insecure people I see is you.” Trolling. False. It would be you guys that is standing together mocking 4 people.
“It's beyond frustrating trying to make an effort to listen and see someone else's POV.” Is that why you guys never tried?
Rose. Mi Amore, Torakaze, and I never fucking trolling anyone, or act weird, offish, or make little to no sense, act snarky or superior. That is you not trying and making excuses for yourself.
Apart from me acting like two of you, which you thrown in my face, we did nothing wrong. We tried to have a conversation. You and your friends were incapable of doing so.
“ Why can't you admit to it? Seems like an ego or insecurity issue.” That is out of line and trolling. I can do wrong. Besides me acting like two of you we did nothing wrong.
“Genuinely. I give up trying to understand.” You never tried.
“You make no sense at all.” I do. That is you never trying. “Or your affiliate who agree with you.” You never wanting to trying.
“Actually, I would've loved to continue to debate whether it's specifically rape, coercion, or dubcon/noncon etc.”.
No I seen your reply and if this was the case. We would not be here.
“ I don't wanna debate to be right, I wanna debate to find the right answer.” This is not a debate and this is not what is happening. It is not about the story. Stop making it about the story. That is the problem. Mi Amore was called lots of things and so was Rose. Mi Amore stood up to the trolling and attacks. It had nothing to with a stupid opinion.
“But it seems you guys took it personally and got upset over the debate.” No. Because you guys took it personally you insult and attacked others. They stood up to the attacks. There was never a debate you guys never allowed it. Because we didn't immediatly agree with your opinion that it is rape ~specifically~ and agreed with what is in the story.
“But that is how debates work; we're supposed to go back and forth till we figure out an answer to agree on,” at least you know how it works.
Rose: it is not rape.
One of you: you are sick. You rape apologist. Seek professional help.
Not a debate. It is your side.
“but so many of you came out of nowhere and started saying...so much SHIT. And again took it all to heart. “ you are misunderstanding
“It's really strange, and it is in fact screaming insecure.” It is not. More trolling.
“We are not making you agree with us.” Yes you are. That is why we are here.
“But that also means you can't make us agree with you.” None of us are you guys. None of us did this.
“I think you don't understand that part? Correct me if I'm wrong here.” You definitely don’t understand what happened. You are wrong. Drop the condescension.
“Hope you get better soon.” More condescension.
“ Again, I highly recommend logging off and taking a spa day because arguing for the sake of arguing isn't healthy, and that's all you've been doing all day long.” More condescending comments. Arguing? Defending. Would you stop lying. You can’t treat people like shit and tell them to accept your abuse that you did nothing wrong. We are not Dan, Joo.
“ nobody here needs any of this.Why can't you ignore us and put it all behind you?” Why cause it? This was the consequences of your behavior. I see ignore me as I mock you and treat you shit on another topic then I call it I disagree with you on story to excuse my behavior. Sick. That is insecure.
“Again. for the umpteenth time, why can you not drop it?” Why can’t you because you don’t understand or you don’t and just lying about everything.
“ This was all a big mess.” Not our fault.
“And all are in the wrong, not just one person. Accept that you are also at fault. Jesus.” No. Mi Amore, Tora, Rose, and I didn’t deserve the shit from you guys. You guys are at fault.
“ I think I've had enough of this frrr “ I told you to shut up or understand. You never understood. Why are you still here talking about things you don’t understand causing to go on. This has been the best comment but still with lies, insults and trolling.
Overdramatic over a word. Friend is harmless. How does a word like friend that is rainbows and sunshine bring a word like motherfucker?! What a suspicious outburst. Oh noes rainbows and sunshine are harmless words too. Are you going to meltdown on them too and be too literal?
Those are your other profiles.
to be honest i don’t even know what i walked in on but this thread is probably the funniest shit i’ve seen on this site— like the five or six accounts that equate replying with raping (??) have me coming back daily to check the comments. they have to be bots right (or ig trolls)? like i refuse to believe people genuinely think like this.
That makes you another troll. If you find attacking and insulting others funny and calling them bot for standing up to trolls when they were trying to have a conversation.
Bots… you are a secondary account. Give it a rest. You trolls are boring same story over and over.
Attacking ain’t replying.
Equate attacking/trolling with raping. * That went over your head what she meant. Only two out of 4 of us had said it. That was only said a few hours ago. You are degrading yourself. Keep looking stupid.
If you were just replying we were not be here.
Seek professional help, if you like people being attacked. But to be honest there is no help for you. Internet trolls are narcissists, psychopaths, and sadists. No cure.
Bro you are writing this at the middle of the night.
Didnt you go sleep? Didnt you go eat or drink water??
Do you even have a life to begin with???
Ill explain you something. Were not attacking you; we voiced our opinions, some people agreed some people didnt and then we moved on with our lives
On thr other hand; you voice your opinion people agree and disagree but thrn you go starting arguement eith people (which is understandable since this is the internet) but after the opposing side disagrees with you, yall keep going almost attacking those ppl just bcuz their pov is diffrent than yours.
You keep saying "youre raping us" which id simply not okay. You cant compare a physical thing to an online thing.
Youre comparing arguement/attacking on thr internet to a traumatic thing many people face unfortunately.
Youre taking such a big crime like rape as an easy thing that happens on the internet.
Its funny to me. You believe that us arguing back to you is rape while the story isnt
But thats not thr point here. Please. Just go log off for a sec; i am not even trying to be funny i am genuinely worried and concerned for your physical and mental health. You keep arguing in the comments as if your life depends on it, its sad af.
That unless youre a bot? But anyways, look up the def of rape, log off of this website, take a spa day, eat something refreshing, and have fun with your friends/onyourself.
Purky you have attacked me. You have attacked others. You have not just voiced our opinions, you attacked us.
You attacked us. You attacked us. You attacked us. There is no way around it. You even attacked me in that comment. Mikaela attack me after. Learn what an attack is. Get a dictionary. You look stupid again.
This was not a disagreement. Your side attacked us.
You are so funny that you make me you. It is you voice your opinion people agree and disagree but thrn you go starting arguement eith people (which is understandable since this is the internet) but after the opposing side disagrees with you, yall keep going attacking those ppl just bcuz their pov is diffrent than yours. That is you and your friends. That is not us.
“ You keep saying "youre raping us"” That went over your head. You are. And still are. see above you just made me you. You are not debunking this by describing what it is. It is not a joke. So you take pleasure knowing you raped us. You are sick. You are not arguing. You are attacking and trolling because you like hurting/raping others
You are NOT genuinely worried and concerned for your physical and mental health. You would not be lying about what happened or laughing at the harm you caused. You can’t have it both ways. You mess with people on purpose. You are NEVER genuinely worried or concerned that is you in a new way of attacking. I am not leaving.
I am defending from your attacks. I am not arguing and it is not as it my life depends on it. Not genuinely at all.
There a bot claim. You are not genuinely. You are troll.
Seek professional help.
Stop raping me. Why don’t you try to understand. You did debunked it and looking it up will not debunked. It just makes you look stupid. Those suggestions I don’t need them. You do. Maybe then you will see the truth here.
You are the one attacking. We are you victims but you love that. You are being pathetic, stupid, and immature
If I said anything to offend you, it was purely intentional. You are the one who's sick. Like seriously sick. You don't know what rape is and using it just because we don't agree with you makes you a garbage human being. Here is the definition of rape: Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent. So, how are we raping you? You have an entire life to be an idiot. Why not take today off?
You have not offended me. I just know you are trying to. You did not listening the definition will not debunked it. We know what rape it. You just make yourself look stupid while toilet make himself like look a criminal. You can’t understand what we mean. You just raped me. We fully understand what rape. You don’t. Try to understand.
Try to understand it has nothing to do with you disagreeing that is stupid. Would you stop being stupid and stop making it about you disagreeing and make it about you attacking us because you hate others pov or the truth. Or is trolling all you know how to do. Or do you like to see people harmed from your stupid comments. Your comments are stupid. They are not offensive they are just childish and ignorant. The show you are going out of your way to hurt someone because they had a different pov or telling the truth. It will not change it. I will not bow. It is not a disagreement here. That show your illness.
You are abusive and actually the one sick. Take your own advice because that is you and your friends not us. Why not take off the whole year or your whole life. Grow the hell up. And seek professional help because you are the one who needs. I will keep say you rape us until you stop or understand what we mean because you don’t understand and maybe you lack the understanding to like how this isn’t rape. I even explained by posting Mi Amore comments but I guess one brain cell is on vacation and the other is in space? Stop raping us. You guys have not stop raping us because you like raping us. You crave it. You guys are trolls,,, figures. That comment went over you head. Keep looking like an idiot.
About the story. Your sickness sees it as rape so much you degrade and troll others into your false argument and call them sick. You are the one sick.
Lmao, atleast I know more than 5 words since you are just saying the exact same thing and again making no sense. I explained to you what rape is and you still think you are right. Did the mental hospital test too many drugs on you today?Ong, If I had a dollar for every time you said something smart, I’d be broke. You literally make no sense at all the WHOLE time. I’d say you’re dumb as a rock, but at least a rock can hold a door open. But go on, be a clown instead. I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out a smarter statement than whatever you just said.
TMSM that you taking the win. They have been giving you the win the whole time but you know that. Have you been enjoying playing with the trolls? I don’t think they noticed being to caught up thinking they are harming you or they have you so upset you are defending yourself like your life depends on it. Hahaha
Okay from what was post to what I am going to say I forgot what was in between.
Let’s decode this comment
“Lmao, atleast I know more than 5 words since you are just saying the exact same thing and again making no sense.”
Old trolling tactic that is to degrade you when you make sense to feel better about themselves showing they are defeated.
“ I explained to you what rape is and you still think you are right.”
The definition doesn’t no poke holes in what you meant. This looks either uneducated and can’t grasp basic ideology or an attempt to discredit you to feel better about themselves- defeated and giving you the win because they know you are right.
“ Did the mental hospital test too many drugs on you today?”
Trolling tactics to discredit you - defeated by you giving you the win.
“Ong, If I had a dollar for every time you said something smart, I’d be broke. You literally make no sense at all the WHOLE time.”
This is saying they are inferior to you. They know you are smart and think you are smarter than them. You make sense and they double down on their insecurities. Their weakness are showing. They are being cowardly here.
“I’d say you’re dumb as a rock, but at least a rock can hold a door open. But go on, be a clown instead.”
Double down on more trolling that degrades them. As it was said, “when you judge others, you don’t define them, you define yourself.” They are referring to themselves. If you have to insult like that -you completely and utterly lost. You got a complete win.
“ I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out a smarter statement than whatever you just said.”
This is more weakness and insecurities. They know you are right and trying to make you look smaller by using trolling tactics to try to feel stronger by taking it out on others which is only cowardly. This is a completely defeated insecure troll giving you the complete win. A few here as gave it to you already.
Sorry, I didn’t realize your ego was so fragile. It's funny you respond to me and not how that person uses rape as ''attacking'' her online but dumb + dumb still equals dumb. I’m not sure if you’re trying to be rude or just bad at communication. Were you born this stupid or did you take lessons? You all are acting like some god or something high mighty, saying you are superior like, it's a fucking illegal manga site. I respond like you so maybe you understand better but don't expect too much since I am not that good in being an idiot.
''Old trolling tactic that is to degrade you when you make sense to feel better about themselves showing they are defeated''
This is such an trolling tactic, like oh m-y g-o-d. *Reginas voice*
''The definition doesn’t no poke holes in what you meant. This looks either uneducated and can’t grasp basic ideology or an attempt to discredit you to feel better about themselves- defeated and giving you the win because they know you are right''
Making sense is not your highest priority, huh? Please educate me how we are raping them ONLINE. Please educate yourself. Everyone’s entitled to act stupid once in a while, but you really abuse the privilege.
''Trolling tactics to discredit you - defeated by you giving you the win''
Isn’t it dangerous to use your whole vocabulary in one sentence? Defeated who? Voldemort? He kinda sexy ngl.
''This is saying they are inferior to you. They know you are smart and think you are smarter than them. You make sense and they double down on their insecurities. Their weakness are showing. They are being cowardly here.''
Bestie, they can't even write a whole sentence correctly. Acting all superior because you think YOUR opinion is the only valid one.
''Double down on more trolling that degrades them. As it was said, “when you judge others, you don’t define them, you define yourself.” They are referring to themselves. If you have to insult like that -you completely and utterly lost. You got a complete win''
Honey, I did not judge you, I described you. Learn the difference. Maybe that is too much to ask for since you don't know the difference between Attacking (which apparently only we are doing) and raping someone. I could've sworn I was dealing with an adult, but I guess I was wrong.
''This is more weakness and insecurities. They know you are right and trying to make you look smaller by using trolling tactics to try to feel stronger by taking it out on others which is only cowardly. This is a completely defeated insecure troll giving you the complete win. A few here as gave it to you already''
Aww, it’s so cute when you try to talk about things you don’t understand. Thanks for being so fun Tora~ Hope you sleep well! Remember to take your medicine alright? And thanks for thinking about Voldemort, he is pretty lonely. <3 There are some remarkably dumb people in this world. Thanks for helping me understand that today! <33
The truth hurts doesn’t. You desperately describe yourself. Learn this is from research and I understand you better than yourself. You are revealing yourself. You can’t describe me or TMSM. Can you tell us a part? Learn to differentiate two people from each other. You lost. Thanks for sharing your lost. Learn I never said that learn what TMSM and MI Amore meant by that. It is a trolling tactic to make many people one because it is less threatening.
Show me where I have said that phrase. Educate yourself on why they said that. You are looking ignorant here. You are being to literal. You are not degrading them. You are desperately degrading yourself.
You said I was fun. That means I am not and you are upset. You know I am adult. Another troll tactic.
I don’t take any medication. I don’t need to. That is you taking to discredit me. You are so desperately to win but you already lost. English - grammar - mistakes -it does not make sense- another pathetic trolling tactic.
You are so desperate, you are running to an article for lines on how to deal with a troll. “19 witty comebacks”. The problem is you are not dealing with a troll.
You are digging yourself a hole.
So facing up to your true self is usually more than bullies like you can bear, so you hide in the shadows cowering.
Are you finished or are you going to continue to hide like a big coward? You are only showing are weak and desperate you are. Thanks for sharing your lost.
The truth hurts doesn’t; * The truth hurts doesn't IT!
Learn this is from research;* Learn, this is from research.
Can you tell us a part?; *Can you tell us apart?
Learn I never said that learn what TMSM and MI Amore meant by that; *Learn, I never said that learn what TMSM and MI Amore meant by that.
It is a trolling tactic to make many people one because it is less threatening;* It is a trolling tatctic to make many people one person
You know I am adult; * You know I'm AN adult.
That is you taking to discredit me; * That is your TAKE to discredit me.
You are so desperately to win; * You are desperate to win-
You are only showing are weak; * You are only showing HOW weak-
Sweetie, i am very creative with my comebacks, so new ones pop in my head! Not everyone is dull-minded like you to search up comebacks. Great minds think alike, so it's not surprising there are comebacks I used for years but, go on If you need more grammar lessons, please ask me. <3
The first one is a copy and pasted error.
You are correcting commas? Grammar police. We are not in a school.
No, with adding person to this sentence. I meant to make many people one. That is why English is crazy. People can see it differently.
That is you taking to discredit me *. My bad, but it is not your correction. It is that you are trying to discredit me. My iPhone trolls me.
You are so desperately to win; * You are desperate to win- (no. You are so desperately trying to win.)
I am on an iPhone and Google wants to crash. So I will go to notes. BUT
I don’t care. I didn’t care, I didn’t proofread, or I set you up to see if you would dig deeper. I still did not proofread it. I don’t care. It is a waste of time to take time to worry about a message to someone who doesn’t care.
I am not your sweetie. You are not creative for comebacks and it was you searching for comebacks. You used them. I did not. You are degrading yourself. I am calling you out and making you face yourself. We are not alike. I know of that page for different reasons.
I don’t need grammar lessons. You made a mistake. You are running out of ideas. You missed “(Attacking) English - grammar - mistakes -it does not make sense- another pathetic trolling tactic. “This is a trick used by debaters when they are losing an argument. The intention is to discredit what the opposition says.
(grammar, wordage) ... in the hope that the
audience will then discredit the arguments
that the opposition puts forward.”
You are showing how weak you are. Thanks for sharing your lost again.
If you want to stop trolling and start being a decent human being, please ask me.
Covering your asses? Laughing at how shitty it was. That shit is shiny golden brown hot piece of shit.
Oh noes, you means we are borg is not the way to go.
We are the borg you will be assimilated resistance is futile or you will be called a rape apologist who needs professional help or other gruesome words because I can’t handle you having another opinion from my own or speaking the truth of the story.
We are borg. We are trolls. We will call you troll when you stand up to us because we are insecure.
We will comments revealing how insecure we are. We always lose and tell you how we are sore losers. We are borg. We keep posting what rape is but fail to see it debunks what is in the story. We are borg we can not see anything else than the hive mind.
Dumbledore no. Maybe dumb——doors. Dumbledores dumbasses.
I love how Tora deadass blocked me and now he is commenting on my thread.
Didnt you say you had a wife and you were a straight man???
Didnt you say she is really intrested in manga and comics and you're only here for her since you are "really good" at analyzing.
Didnt you say you didnt care much about this comic bcuz you dont really enjoy reading but only doing it for your wife.
At the first time me and you (tora) talked i srsly assumed i was talking to an adult but i am not that sure anymore. I think i now believe youre an angry child who is mad at the world and thought attacking strangers was the best move.
Okay excuse me; bit Arent you supposedly a mature person since you made a decision to marry someone?? ATLEAST you'd be 24-26, but you act like an "angry teenager who isnt understood"
I mean have some shame dude. Imagine blocking someone then coming to their thread only to fight them AGAIN for something as stupid.
I think its time to understand that if more than 3 peopel find you completely stupid then maybe there is a tiny ety bity chance you are.
I think leaving your lover at a Saturday isnt really that loving; go on and hang out with her. Maybe go for a walk or have dinner?? I dont think calling strangers rapists or attacking them for being diffrent in pov is that productive your poor wife probably misses you as she sees you furiously typing on chrome
Have a good night dude
''golden brown hot piece of shit''
Why did I imagine a beat to that?
Sweetie, let mama teach you some real comebacks. That was weak & lame. You could say something like ''Your mom should have swallowed you'' or ''Your asshole must be jealous of how much shit comes out of your mouth''. Dumbledore gladly helps you out like he did with Harry. <3
I know. It is like dealing with 6 years thinking Santa Claus exists. I wasn’t playing with them. Basically, I kept telling them the truth. At the beginning, I did care and tried to understand them. They do miss many things.
Wait! What did you mean playing?
Oh! It is their fault thinking I was hurt, insulted, or whatever the flying fuck by them. I went with the flow. They never affected me. They do miss many things. Like how am I not one but a we. TMSM. M is the first initiated of my last name, at least on here. Duh!
-TM
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ. ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶. (●'◡'●)ノ
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Tora has not attacked anyone. You lost.
You only messed with Tora when you two talked. You were never an adult to him.
You are the one angry because you are lying and lying about him. You lost.
He is not fighting. Do you not comprehend his words? Stop trying to make people leave. Deal with the fucking problems you created. Stop defaming others because you lost. What a pathetic joke of a comment.
You are showing him how weak you are and how much of a coward you are. (▰˘◡˘▰)
For someone who says he's not hurt or insulted, you sure like to mention it, hehe. Why are you cussing?!? You are attacking me! We are your victims! That we taking the win. You playing with we? This another trolling tactic you are desperately degrading yourself. You are so desperately to win but you already lost. You have attacked others. You have not just voiced our opinions, you attacked us. You attacked us. You attacked us. You attacked us. There is no way around it. You even attacked me in that comment. Tmsmyz attack me after. Learn what an attack is. Get a dictionary. You look stupid again. If you find attacking and insulting others funny and calling them bot for standing up to trolls when they were trying to have a conversation. You stop attacking us trolls! Everyone who thumbed down me is just troll!
It is just showing they are weak and how much of a coward they are. They can’t handle seeing the truth about themselves. It is trying to feel stronger and better about themselves by taking it on others. It is pathetic to make others miserable, to feel better about yourself.
About Purky, is there a different Tora I don’t know about?
Straight. Wife. My wife loves Yaoi but manga and comics works. The rest don’t fit. It is pathetic cowering and more digging of defeated people. It seems they think I am smarter than them. I am working on my PhD.
Opinions from trolls have no credibility.
They have no credibility.
They have no arguments.
They have no data or facts.
I don’t value trolls’s opinions.
Especially, that can’t get facts straight and trying to get people with different “opinions” to leave. How cowardly.
tora. What did i say that didnt add up??? You said yourself that you only read comics since your wife wants you to analyze it for her since youre good at it.
And you bringing up your PhD seems so stupid and lame dude. Its like saying; "i am better and right-er than you in everything, your opinion and thoughts dont matter since i have a degree DUHH"
You REALLY need to reread your comment before deciding to post them cuz sis this simply aint it.
I have no idea what your major or what youre phding in but ATLEAST you'd have some good grammer? Maybe english isnt your first lang which i might understand; english isnt my first lang either. But id like to imagine a PhD person having SOME knowledge in grammer atleast.
And btw you bring up your degree into this is just so out of the blue? You dont know me, you dont know any of us; what do you know abt our majors/professions/education to bring up that? Are you trying to seem superior bcuz you have a PhD??? AND WAIT A SEC. Isnt a PhD haver supposedly a know-er () of what rape is???? Nuh uh i dont believe you one bit; try again, but this time pull a better lie.
The way they keep talking about their partners (husbands/wifes) sounds forced af.
And they way that dude pulled the PhD out of his ass is too.
I srsly now think they are just dumb children that stumbled onto this website.
And if they infact have all of this; i just want to say how?
I mean i dont know how they are irl but god those comments are forming an idea already
Tm? Why aren't you replying!! We need to talk! After thinking deep about this...I think we should break up! I can't bear with you anymore I'm sorry! I AM the problem not you! I didn't know I am so intelligent and made you feel bad about it with my high IQ replies...I hope you find someone who matches your level. <3 I know some ants in my garden, so ask me if you want me to introduce them to you. <3
with sweet regards,
yours truly
Mami
Tora never said he only reads what he wife wants him. He has always said his friend asked him to read this one. Try reading. Wife, best friend (Mi Amore) and their friends. He has always said this. You are lying.
All the insults = threatened by Tora.
Your insecurities are showing. This is how sore losers act when they lose. They seethe and loathe. They lie. Most of what you claim is about you. You lost since you started to troll and insult. You lost this long before you attack Rose, a rape survivor.
We are telling you the truth. They are not lies.
He is married has a wife going for a PhD. He didn’t say he had a PhD. You felt threatened.
I am married. We are both men. We don’t have to lie.
You should read your comments too. They are awful in grammar and spelling mistakes. It is harder to read yours.
Stop feeling threatened by him. Move on. I never been angry or furious with people showing how insecure they are or how weak-minded they are. You been taking the L since you messed with Tora.
Tora never said he only reads what his wife wants him*
You lost this long before you attack(ed) Rose*
You('ve) been taking the L since you messed with Tora.
Mami junior, for some saying ''You should read your comments too. They are awful in grammar and spelling mistakes. It is harder to read yours'' you made a lot of mistakes here. <3 Don't worry, Joe mama will give you lessons. Since you are being rude I will ground you! I didn't raised you like that...since your father left I've been all alone raising YOU..I know it's hard but I AM TRYING MY BEST..please be kind and be the person Joe mama will be proud of because you have a personality only joe mama can love..I miss you sweetheart!!! Do you want peanut butter or jam on your sandwich?
The first had no correction.
Article—-
Polite, secure people do not correct other people’s grammar.
A Grammar Bully is feeling insecure in some way, and the insecurity is driving her to gather up friends. Many observers may think the Grammar Bully is about belittling others, but really, the Grammar Bully is just looking to find other Grammar Bullies because she is feeling angry and/or stressed.
Anger can be subconscious and many times it is. We are discouraged from expressing anger when out and about in polite society, so we suppress it. Unfortunately, anger is one of those emotions that bubbles up to the surface. Grammar-correcting behavior is one of suppressed anger’s outlets.
So, now that we understand that insecurity and resentment are forms of anger that are being suppressed in the Grammar Bully, we can now learn how to behave in the event that we happen upon one of these lovely people.
https://www.purplecar.net/2013/09/grammar-bullies/
But dear Eminem, you are the one who said you can't read Purkys sentence. You are also a bully in your logic! I try to help you and that's how you treat me?? I thought you were different than the last suckers but I guess I am wrong..farewell my love..Someday you’ll go far. And I really hope you stay there.
You pull a Link? Hold my beer.
https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/rsa/rape-and-sexual-assault/what-is-rape-and-sexual-assault/
Maybe NOW! you can understand the difference between rape and SA.
Maybe you be see there is no rape in the story. That doesn’t make it romantic.
If this is about the statement.
Normal people would not mock it or take it literally.
They would understand and STOP.
They would stop violating me.
They would stop harassing me.
They would stop making false accusations.
They would stop lying.
They would stop gaslighting.
They would stop and change.
They would stop.
This should have stop. Why are you still harassing us to prove you are harassing us? Stop harassing us.
We are staying. We will not see your POV. Leave us alone.
Maybe NOW! you can understand the difference between rape and SA.
Maybe you may see there is rape in the story. That doesn’t make it romantic.
If this is about the statement.
Normal people would not mock it or take it literally.
They would understand and STOP.
They would stop violating me.
They would stop harassing me.
They would stop making false accusations.
They would stop lying.
They would stop gaslighting.
They would stop and change.
They would stop.
This should have stop. Why are you still harassing us to prove you are harassing us? Stop harassing us.
We are staying. We will not see your POV. Leave us alone.
OMG THAT KID I HAD A CONVO WITH THINKS I ATTACKED HIM
""I can relate, the one I really don't agree with the most is purky, omg, you can't even be reasonable with him at all. I've also seen the attacks that were inflicted on tora, belovedrose, mi amore, and you and damn are they violent. Hope you didn't let any of them get to you.♡"" i actually kind of feel bad; was i really that mean???
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14210090/
But dude srsly if you can see this; i am really not sure if i did.
You were maybe mean because those people just harass everyone who has another opinion. You being mean is justified. These people can't be real or I change my species. You good my guy. <3 At the end of the day we moved on but they are the ones still making posts about it. I am still here just to have more fun lol. I love internet arguments.
LMAO WHAT IS THIS THOUGH?
This legit feels like a 'MOST WANTED' poster in some classic wild wild west story. They're not listing 'trolls' or haters, those are all just people who disagreed with their opinion
goofy post. Shouldn't be in the comments anyway? Add that crap in your Bio or in a forum. I do feel bad for the people annoyed with the comments
And dang. Reading through it all- even people who weren't involved with the petty drama aspect of it, that were indeed calm and made good points- STILL get called a troll just for calmly disagreeing and are told "You are seriously very offensive and insensitive!" and "you are wrong/I am right".
Just proves the point more and more that they're really not wanting to understand and just want their opinion to be validated.
It's very obvious. And I feel bad for myself that I wasted my time writing and trying to listen instead of just having fun from the start tbh
Start to bump this ancient topic. This is back when a few people defend a rape survivor from being cyberbullied who get cyberbullied in the process. They defended themselves from cyberbullying on a lie. They tried different techniques to get the massive number of people trolling them for defending themselves. Many of you say you were trolling them or messing with them. A few say they should not be defending themself. They should. It is normal. They don't normalize cyberbullying.
What is missing in this thread is TM is only pretending to be you guys. It is said in other topics and in a few removed ones. He thinks the topic was removed saying he was going to start acting like Purky to Purky.
When this topic was happening Purky and the others knew. But new people coming on this topic don't know it is pretending to be Purky and a few others.
Tm said this on many topics.
"I may had acted liked you guys. Because You said it was fun but I find it to be cringeworthy
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14224347/?page=2"
This is about the same time.
And here https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14590077/?page=3
"One of the problems is I tried many methods and many were not like me. I stop being me on here. I am going back to being me."
The TM in this topic was someone bluffing his behavior to stop the attacks on him.
There are many times he will say he acted like you guys who cyberbullied him. He was in an overwhelming situation with many people attacking them on a lie when they only defended a rape survivor. If people are allowed to say what they want about Jinx why have they been cyberbullied and forced to be silent? When people could leave them. When cyberbullies could leave them alone. They would not be "annoying" if cyberbullies left them alone and allowed everyone to have an opinion here.
The cyberbullies created the problem and have kept it going. Don't blame them. I hope this is my last message on the fake drama you guys love. Tm and Tora are ignoring you guys. They are not toys.
Torakaze, I don't know why tangina has it in for you. You have not talked to her since October 1st besides when you asked her to leave you alone and offered her friendship when she tried to suppress your voice with a fake warning.
You and TM have LEFT HER ALONE. She asked are we insane but would she not be insane? She tried to appear to be "New" to Jinx in September. She liked this topic. She either knew about it or hit favorites. As many people would find this by hitting favorites. Sort by: Date/ Agree/ Popularity/ Last Reply
https://imgur.com/a/1GNMxLk She liked this post 2023-09-29 23:16. Is she calling herself insane too?
She also said something about participating in the chaos again. So, you will regret talking to her because of her behavior because you were curious about her other account. I say alt has been confirmed. And I hope this is my last message on this fake drama.
Even though I disagree, and would argue on how detrimental or 'harmful' these kind of stories can actually be, I 100% agree with people not caring enough about when men get abused. It's a horrible thing that's been normalized, and hopefully it changes someday. I don't think that change is with getting rid of stories like this, though. I'm not really sure where you would start to achieve that change aside from publicizing as many cases, in which female/male on male abuse happens, as possible. You just gotta bring attention to it. It's 100% sexist, but it's not you that's sexist. It's societal expectations, to a degree.
Without elaborating (I am have not been on my A-game with words and explanations lately, so I'm not gonna try having a civil discussion on it, because I won't be proud of it XD), I definitely see and understand your argument on the stories, and there's a valid debate to be had there, where you would have more than just solid points. Just remember that there is extreme nuance to this kind of topic, and that people read and enjoy these types of stories for different reasons. Granted, there are probably no healthy reasons, but I would argue that there are no... Extremely unhealthy ones either.
More than just inconsiderate and possibly dehumanizing? Perhaps, but not to any real people. It's purely fictional. So no one's truly getting hurt, and there's not a whole generation of kids inhaling these stories (that they should not be reading) like candy at ages where they probably would be heavily influenced by this. I'm not saying adults (or teens, because let's face it, at least a 'few' consume adult material like this) can't be influenced, but they do tend to have a more fundamental understanding of what's logically healthy in a relationship and the slim chance of crucial and needed change in people even just slightly like JK. I don't see many die-hard romantics who deeply believe in love to the extent you speak of. No where that isn't TikTok, where all extremes are encouraged because it gets attention.
However, what I'm more concerned about is the men and women that get abused in the porn industry. Now that's not fictional at all, and is actually probably societally detrimental to a certain degree.
[[I just wanna say, I've always really admired your views, and even if there are some things we would disagree on, I will forever support your fundamental reasonings.]]
It's kind of creepy that keep following every post you make,
they are stalking you and waiting for their chance to verbally attack you (and that is what we call cyberbullying) they came to a post that was made 5 months ago just to say some crap that no one is gonna read and also upload pictures of you stating your opinion, but when we do the same thing its unfair and its publicly shanming them. bruh this much hypocrisy.
Jesus christ. Morning diamond; your obsessed bbg.
I think you need to set the phone down and apperciate nature for a second.
God dude; i made this post and i forgot it existed.
Wait before you set your phone down, read the rest of my topics. There are alot of arguements done in them where you can nag on :D
"I hope this is my last message on this fake drama."
You are not obsessed. You made a post with a clear message and someone accused you of being insane. You show the hypocrisy of it since they knew of the post when they were "new" and you pointed out a statement. If that person followed you here how are you "Cyberbully" them? Tangina?'s first reply is after yours. I don't see you talking or verbally attacking Tangina? You explained a statement that is not an opinion. You are not even fighting. I don't fully understand this after reading two threads but it seems to me you are getting bullied with lies as you explain and left.
I want no part in this.
I litteraly could care less have you not seen the vibe in the comments?
I have pretty good reason to be when these people find ways to make themselves relevant and contact me through topics I participate in
find your a new person but I literally don’t care if you don’t want to be a part of this don’t mention me by name.
it’s very easy not to be a part of this
Can we PLEASE stop commenting on someone's post which is 4 months something old?! There's no use on bringing this up again except to create more fights. Extra coming here just to comment on the drama which was posted 4 months ago is petty & unnecessary. Block each other and move on. Bullying? Report. But for the love of Jesus Christ, stop adding more fuel.
I had read the last part again just so i can understand who is this new character and what is his role in the story.
I guess this will be long.
First off we can get it straight that this man is rich-rich due to him wearing an expensive suit, having a celebrity van, and a driver who organizes his schedule (?)
The driver tells heesung (the new character) that his awaited apointment with jae can finally happen. Turns out sung wants p.t??? (which stands for physical therapy)
I was really confused here, why would this new guy want physical therapy from jae but then i remembered dan. Dan is jae's personal physical therapist so maybe he'd recruit dan to treat him too? Maybe that when heesung and dan meet and how the jae's jealousy arc begins.
I have 2 theories to why sung needs the p.t;
*He either is an action actor who has to do an action scene which is very physically demanding and needs a p.t ASAP and thought that the champion's therapist would be the best (or bcuz he is making an excuse to see him)
*OR*
*he is also a fighter/boxer and needs help with his due fight.
^ i dont really think this is true tho; since sung doesnt have the ear cauliflower. (If you dont know this ear thing that jae has is a thing for boxers; it happens because boxers get hit on the ears in matches it can be fixed by a medical procedure but most boxers dont fix it since its seen like a trophy)
I am going to be shallow here, and judge by the looks of this man.
He is drawn like an everyday bottom (i am in physical pain while typing this) his looks are very pretty and knowing the author he is destined to be a new love intrest to jae. Unless the author changes her belive to how gay ppl look (which is unlikely) this new character is drawn beautiful and slim for a reason.
Now; jae's and sung's relationship. I think the relationship between the two ended really badly; and i believe that sung was abusive to jae (or vise versa) thats why jae doenst want to associate himself with sung anymore. (Jae looks like as if he is making excuses to not see him)
I think those two are/were very close since he is calling him a "hot-head" (which either implies that jae is hot or always angry) without feeling scared or anything, he is saying it very confidently.
I think after sung is introduced to dan he will see how he is "important" to jae (i call bs since jae treats dan like shit but sure) he will try to "steal" him so he can tease jae, maybe then he'll fall inlove with him and he turns out to be healthy and they end up together???? (I am getting my hope up )
But again those two might just be friend and sung might have the "annoying gold retriever" trope (the author will pair him with dan for a jealous arc tho)
It might still be an ex and then the author will pair him up with jae to create a jealous arc for dan.
Lmao, wait. i want to add one more last thing; after the whole story ends i bet theyll apir him with potato and well have a whole side story about the two
This story is so cliche its humorous.
Okay let's unpack this chapter.
My point is proven again. Dan is insanely afraid of jae's judgement; he cant express himself or oppose any of his ideas since he is afraid to get hit/or wtvs other reason there is. After unnecessary peer pressure from jae; dan expresses a huge problem in their sex-relationship which is **protection** he give off an excuse which is being uncomfortable whenever jae does the deed in his ass.
And omfg do i think jae is a dumb hoe. Bro really said "you wouldnt get pregnant" to a man
And other than that; HIV??? Sex-diseases?? (Raws can lead to HIV-1 and HIV-2 which ends us with AIDS) and lets be honest; doenst jae already have all these diseases since he is an open slut?
And why tf didnt dan just pull the disease card for him to use a condom? Isnt he a doctor, or since he is a bottom that doenst matter? (jae wouldve said no too imo)
And jae is such a self-centered peice of shit, he doenst give two flying fucks if dan is uncomfortable or not (we got that across long ago but still) he only wnats a hole only, (i mean at this point just get a sex toy dude.)
Okay lets take a different approach; lets say those diseases dont exist in this world (which i think is VERY dumb and lazy; it makes the adults look childish and irresponsible) the excuse dan gave was solid, he didnt have to even give an excuse; its his body and his choice how the sex goes. And tbh if dan does all the work to clean himself up (which he deosnt like) the least jae could do is be an adult and wear a condom.
Okay we are not quite done with the sex ed yet.
I am a gay man; and i have never came across a man that can get off from only his nips (from only his ass too) and especially if they are an inexperienced person like dan; i mean if dan was in a romantic relationship with jae; it might work? (Most unlikely) but jae is humiliating him, raping him and dan has no positive or sexy thoughts to stimulate ejaculating (they didnt show us any thoughts too) so it really makes no sense that inexperienced (probs not gay) man like dan can fully ejaculate from nipple play
Id like to add one more thing; men dont normally have sensitive nipples; (and if they did it wont lead to cumming) so dan having them is such a cliche thing to have. (Nipple play is mostly use to give an over-stimulation, not to fully amke someone ejaculate, thats unrealistic af and really stupid)
Now that we are done with the sex ed; lets take about the minor details. Some ppl are saying that jae was jealous when dan mentioned potato. I dont believe so; it mostly look/feel like as if his tower of power has been shaken. You see, jae sees dan as his sex toy and him seeing his sex toy having feelings and forming ideas and friendships is weird to him. Jae cant see people as individuals, He sees them as something that can help/assist him, since he is a narc.
Now the new character; i have two theories. He wants to fight jae for the championship and he falls inlove with dan and tries to win him over *OR* he was jae's ex and he wants to get him back. (Either by fucking him or fucking him up)
In conclusion this new character is only here to make Someone jealous; (i truly hope it isnt dan)
Someone said that the new character looks like dan; which i agree to. It makes me think that either jae has a type for blonde twink men *OR* that he misses his ex alot and he dated dan since he looks like him.
Okay one more last thing and ill kindly leave; two sex chapters??? dude we want a PLOT. This deadass is a porn comic, the only thing we got out of this chapter was that jae wears glasses; he has trouble sleeping; that he sometimes watches B&W porn when he cant sleep.
We got a new character (which ill make the fight, that he is equally toxic)
In conclusion, this comic is making me lose hope in humanity. And tbh every charcter in this comic is shallow af, they dont feel like real ppl (there is no appeal to continue reading this dumpster fire)
We are all out here waiting for ANYONE to be interesting. Dan is lame. Jae is an asshole. And the new guy is pretty. End of story.
I couldn´t have formulated it better. I ranked this story 2 stars, simply because the artstyle is good. Idk why i keep reading bc it really sucks, maybe i have hope that it could get better? But honestly even if it does, the start is too fucked up so it wouldn´t change a thing.
And I agree with the nipple play, it´s ridiculous. Nobody can come just from that, it feels good ok but to come? Lmao
Can you chilllll with the PLOT thing? This book is slow paced(obviously) you can't just expect development immediately, I mean look at the characters and their personalities. In my opinion, this book will probably pass 100 chapters and mingwa is doing a very good job in making it this slow-paced. You can't expect the plot to transpire instantly, or feelings to pop out of no where suddenly. It starts from somewhere you know. And besides, if you want to start seeing a PLOT I feel the book won't be that much interesting tbvh. Let's remain calm and go with the flow.
Also I don't agree with you saying jk is a rapist (he isn't fcs). You can't really identify what he did with dan as RAPE. Stop calling it rape. Check your dic please. ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
Okay what now? "You cant expect development immediately" ofc that is true but you missed my point; the characters are SHALLOW. They are boring, stereotypical and hard to watch, its not about the "slow-pace" at all.
And again; this isnt even slow paced its standing still without moving? We had two sex episodes back to back; thats not a plot. I dont see personality from either of them, they dont have depth. I cant see them as individuals and when something like that isnt seen in a book/comic it gets boring.
And "can you chill with the plot"? What am i supposed to criticise then? Their sex scenes? A story is a PLOT. And a smut story needs a plot to be intresting, the only reason a smut story is considered a story bcuz it give depth to the characters which makes the intercourse scenes fun and exciting. This comic feels like a porno; and we have a whole hub for that.
It´s not slow paced. It´s lazy(bad) writing. A story is supposed to be interesting from start to finish, you shouldn´t even need to find it excuses. It feels like naruto fillers except it´s smut, like cmon i think YOU are the one with very little reading experience.
And btw Jk IS a rapist. How many times has the protagonist said they were enjoying the sex? 0 if i recall correctly. How many times was he forced into it? Every fkn time. You have your answer.
Rape isn´t just a violent guy threatening you in a back alley you know? As soon as someone says they´re scared, that they feel pain or just "wait" and the other person doesn´t stop: that´s rape. But it´s so normalized in yaois that you don´t even recognize it anymore.
Lol the characters are shallow, boring, stereotypical and hard to watch to YOU(Be specific!). You definitely do not understand, do you? Them having too much sex is part of the plot boyie... You don't even understand how a plot goes because if you do, you won't be saying this lol XD. Depth? You don't see them as individuals? Mehn you do know there are many people like Dan and jk in real life. Are you even on earth?
Feel free to criticize because I can see that's what you're best at doing. A story is a PLOT obviously and sex can be part of IT. I'm still wondering if this is your first bl manhwa because you're so unto hating this story like. I feel you should find a story fitting for you because you keep on complaining. Relax boyie...
Oh and this; “ the only thing we got out of this chapter was that jae wears glasses; he has trouble sleeping; that he sometimes watches B&W porn when he cant sleep.” it's so obvious you hate jk( I mean everyone hates him for being a red flag) but yours is sooo excessive. We got so many information from this chapter, what are you even reading?
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Wow omg you're gay!!! Don't care. You can be gay and still not read that much manhwa. If you can't read the book why don't you just STOP? It's that simple. Just admit you want to see the character development like everyone else. The excess hate is so unnecessary at this point like boyyy chillllllll(≧∀≦)
Dan is in no position to refuse sex. I won´t argue with a child any longer. If you can´t understand that he has a monetary hold on Dan(he literally paid off all of his debts and his grandma´s treatments), then you are rly dumb. If he refuses him sex he will literally have to reimburse every single penny, which he can´t cuz he´s poor. What don´t you understand? They literally signed a fucking contract. You´re really dense
Oh honey i´m not hating, just being lucid here. And if you take a look at my lists you´ll see i don´t read only romance LMAO. It might make you understand that with how many stories i´ve read maybe i´m onto something? But keep sucking the author´s dick maybe you'll be featured in the next chapter haha
Sex can NOT be a plot. Wtf are you on? Its like going to porn and watching step sister lore and saying it has a good plot story
Get a grip.
You say i am overreacting and that i need to chill but girlie you just sound so mad at me and my opinion
I do not care if you enjoy it but i simply dont. And they way you cant accept that says alot about you.
And "Youre waiting for development like everyone else" you said it yourself? There is no development going on at all which makes the story so annoying to read. And "we learned so much from this chapter" what did we learn huh? If you tell me i might understand.
This story is Lazy af and if you enjoy such story do you really read good manhwas? Or do you just read them for the smut? Ask yourself that. You have no experience with any good stories or anything.
And WHAT. There might be ppl in this life that ahve the similar traits as the two ml, but NOONE is exactly like them. They are shallow with no depth no human bring id like that.
And last jae raped dan. And you saying they arent just disgusts me. You arent only excusing other ppl eho ent through similar stuff, but youre feeding your nasty kink of romanticizing rape. Get hrlp ASAP
You draw the line at cursing but rape is fine? Anyway if you can´t understand that reading a piece of media doesn´t mean that you agree with it or that it aligns with your morals then i can´t do more for you. Not my business.
Doesn´t change the fact that this manhwa has trash plot, if we can even call it that
“SEX can NOT be a plot” then how about you go compose a story for yourself, hmm? Like you could, Hilarious XD
Sex is very much expected in this manhwa, I mean jk has a strong sex drive, you wouldn't foresee less, please darling. You can't envision development immediately...are you even studying the characters? You expect a narc like jk to suddenly start being the good guy? Boy...get out of your delulu era.
You're asking me what you learned from the chapter? It's just so obvious at this point. You just want to hate on this manhwa for no specific reason. Do you think I enjoy how jk treats Dan? No one does, but we all are anticipating how things are gonna turn out. Tbh I want to see jk get penalized for treating Dan in such an abusive way( which is not rape!)
*you can't change my opinion.*
Boyiee...nobody is romanticizing rape. You're just saying this because a lot of us don't believe what jk did to Dan is rape. Dan was literally given an option to LEAVE or STAY(read the chapter again), he even lied that he was experienced lol and jk specifically said “Since you're experienced I guess I don't need to go easy on you then.” meaning this is how he treats all his sex partners. Jk lacks decency which the author has obviously shown us. But you can't say it's RAPE( maybe they're similar in little ways but it isn't RAPE).
Bro, do you know what rape is? Rape is moreeee extreme than what happened in this manhwa, please chill.
If you're calling this manhwa LAZY, that means you clearly didn't read the synopsis because this is exactly how the story is supposed to go.
So. Likewise i hate the red haired dude since he is an abuser and much more, simply he sucks; we can all agree on that since th author themselves said that this character is meant to be shit on.
Now siwoo; i actually liked this character (past tense) he was sweet always there for the ml and a really good supportive friend. even tho imo its an annoying trope to always give to a side character i apperciate siwoo being like that for the ml.
BUT. The side story completely ruined him, first; the author made him toxic, he sexually abused someone (the red hair deserves it since he is a rapist too but like they ruined a good character to do so)
They gave him traits that really annoyed the shit out of me; cuz i had a totally diffrent idea of him and the author then changes it completely.
Siwoo is now fucking the suha's past rapist; his past ex boyfriend; his (probably) first lover.
Suha really TRUST siwoo with all his heart; and if he saw that his best friend is **knowingly** fucking his past aggressor what would he feel? Cuz if it was me in that situation id feel as if my whole life is crumbling beneath me; how can someoen pleasure their bestfriend's abusive ex? And the sad part they end up together, and if they did what will happen next? Siwoo would have to tell suha about his bf and yadda yadda yadda.
This side story is completely toxic but in a way; i enjoy it actually. Its something about toxic x toxic that is so fun (only in fiction)
My only problem is that the red boy is suha's ex abuser and siwoo is his best friend.
This is a big betrayal coming from siwoo tbh. Poor suha.
This will be long.
Dan is in a space right now where his whole life is crumbling around him, his only family member that he loves so genuinely is on her death bed and he is facing that information with the knowledge that she will most likely die, her treatment is his entire paycheck so his physical health is at stake, (he probably cant eat helathy or clothe himself right due to that) that can be so damaging for anyone, feeling left out from everything adults are having. And he has no right to feel bad or left out (in his mind) since he will look like a dick for blaming his grandma for being sick or having treatment that is financially demanding.
Other than that; this man got sexually assaulted by a man he idolized (his boss or wtvs he is) that can be insanely traumatic, and other than that, he got victim blamed and getting called a liar and got kicked out from his well-paid job (?)
The man now lives in a small apartment that cant fit a full grown man and has to endure being assaulted by shark loans every once in a while.
This man after a while of being jobless, gets his hand on an okay job where he can finally help his poor granny get better and get his life in check. Surprise surprise! Another hole. This man gets raped (or fucked so you wont send me death threats) very violently and gets treated like a slut by a very aggressive man, which then also decreases his self-worth/conference. He then signs (like a dumbass) a contract ;that is probs illegal; that basically says that his body belongs to the other ml. This then forces the idea that he has not a single say to his own body.
His physical health slowly but surely decrease as he has to do physical labor both day and night. Other than that, his poor asshole dude.
After all that, this dude gets beaten up by the shark loans yada yada yada. Gets raped agian even tho he is injured; passes out since he is fucking tired; gets sick. Then finaly gets sexaully assaulted by the shark loans and gets saved by his abuser (which again increases the idea that he has dibs on his body)
At some point, the ego-man (without asking) visits dan's grandma which paints him in a light that he is an angel (which again makes dan thinks that he has no right to his body)
Dan moves in to said ego-man where he can see hoe he is a lowlife compared to big-dick and gets more anxious on saying no in sex.
Dan then gets beaten up by the ego-filled man in a ring (dan wins at something!! Fucking finally!!) And then gets drowned (almost) and he has to endure the insults of being called "not a man" whenever he cries when that leg enters him (whenever they have sex btw)
This man is really postponing his break down, this shit has to happen at some point.
He is so mentally strong, its insane to me. Lets all make a "go-fund-me" for dan so he can get therapy ASAP!!
I loved the ending but i couldnt help but notice that it felt rushed.
The whole time i was reading the last 3 chapters i thought there were more and it was actually not completed. But nonetheless it was great, healthy, and nice.
But i dont want to mention i hate how yujin was ended like that? He never confessed, they never had a major arc where he tells the ml and ml says no and yada yada yada. I
And omg the banner on tappytoon was so misleading i thought theyll all end together (which wouldve been cute) but eh.
Id say it was quite a nice ride, i enjoyed it alot and please support the artist :)
My man traded his dignity, his morals, his believes for some dick??? NAHHHH (same tbh)
I dont remember there names so ill refer to them as (black hair guy = top)/(blonde hair guy = bottom)
I dont know guys,, the black hair guy seems kind of narcissistic, what is it with rich ppl always being so full of themselves in bl comics?? But other than that, i enjoy this comic bcuz the author/characters realise that this plot is toxic. But i really dont like how the blonde guy easily handed his ass cheeks on a silver plate like it was nothing or no big deal. Dont get me wrong; i love the coding of adults doing impulsive thinking in comics; it feels realistic. But agreeing to becoming sex partners with a homophobe that only cares abt his pleasure seems kind of off to me.
But yeah no way this two would date in a real life context, a gay man would never date a homophobic guy who treats him like shit (i sure as hell wouldnt )
And tbh black hair is kind of annoying. He really wont shut up its draining to read all his stupid dialogue talking about himself or how much the other ml likes him
And the blonde guy is lame in appearance, but i really apperciate his perosnality. he is an adult man and he acts like one, he isnt a shy uwu boy which is a good change.
But yeah thats about all i feel toward this comic. Probably would continue bcuz i love the art alot and bcuz this is interesting tbh lol
My man took ''I'll fuck you but no homo'' too seriously.