the_Al_meh_ty July 18, 2020 6:59 am

I was wondering why I stopped this halfway and then I continued and realised ugh the names I'm cringing to death (。ŏ﹏ŏ) so many good stories I ended up dropping because of the names :(

    nami July 22, 2020 2:28 am

    Yup I just got to the chapter where they changed the names and I was like Wtf? guess I'm not finishing it

the_Al_meh_ty July 16, 2020 8:25 pm

I want to see your tower~

I practiced on cucumbers- hahahaha

the_Al_meh_ty July 16, 2020 7:25 pm

Did he fuck the manager or not???

    ThePatch7997 July 18, 2020 4:24 pm

    Noooo, thats the guy from chapter 2. You know the one that god mad because they went home together.

    Hopeless_shipper July 28, 2020 6:29 pm

    Yyyyyep

Orlike..whatever July 15, 2020 7:53 pm

Why are straight and gay the only two options?

And why is it that if it's a "straight" guy and a gay guy are in a relationship it's assumed that the "straight" guy isn't as invested in it as the other? I've seen this kind of thing so often in yaoi and as a bi person myself I can't help but be a lil sad... Especially since I can't help but love the manga cuz it's so good...

I bawled like a baby reading it 。:゚(;´∩`;)゚:。

    Ozge July 25, 2020 6:04 pm

    Hi I’m bi myself (or pan I’m not sure)! But for some reason I never thought of this as biphobia. And I don’t think it’s because there aren’t any bi people in Japan or Asia but I think because of the common stereotype/problem(?) of homophobia. I mean, like it was in the manga if you even say you like men you’d be labeled as fag before you could even discover if you like both men and women or just men. But to me in this manga the thing about Kawai being straight would still be there if he was bi, because the problem was that Ohara believed he would (in the end) choose a woman (to maybe fit society’s norms or make his parents happy) over him.

    Fioml08 July 26, 2020 8:36 pm

    Hi! Another bisexual here, I never thought of this kind of topics as biphobia, and the reasons behind this are two:
    - The romantized concept of "I don't like men, I just like you", which it makes the relationship or feelings "more special".
    - The lack of general knowledge on bisexuality per se, from the general population, which includes our beloved mangakas in some cases.

    the_Al_meh_ty July 27, 2020 6:21 pm
    Hi! Another bisexual here, I never thought of this kind of topics as biphobia, and the reasons behind this are two:- The romantized concept of "I don't like men, I just like you", which it makes the relationshi... Fioml08

    Which is why did said low key instead of just outright, but still, just because people don't know about something doesn't mean the problem isn't there right? They're doing something that's maybe kinda sorta offensive, it's just they don't know that they're doing it

    poppp August 13, 2020 11:44 pm

    Late comment here but I'd say that back when this story was released (2014), bisexuality wasn't very well known in East Asia. People only knew straight and gay, and they threw trans people into the gay section carelessly too. It's not until, I'd say 2018, 2019ish that awareness for the other letters in LGBTQ+ got slightly better here, you can see that many recent manga/manhwa have bi people in it or they stop with the "straight man who fall in love with a gay man" shtick.

Orlike..whatever July 15, 2020 6:53 pm

I like it and want to see where this is going and maybe it's just me being silly but... Like why is it that if a girl is with a guy who's already in a relationship then she's condemned for being a homewrecker but if it's a guy who's with a girl who's already in a relationship it's a mistake she made and the guys a victim? Like wtf? In both cases they're both wrong...

    Ahk July 15, 2020 6:57 pm

    I think in both situations, the person who's cheating is wrong.

    soie_yoie July 15, 2020 9:23 pm

    Home wrecker is someone who breaks a married family not a bf or gf. Its a very specific type of relationship.

    A man can be a home wrecker as well.

    I think the problem is most mistress want to take the wife position. While some males just want a fling. No strings attached so he doesnt care to brake up a family to insert himself in it.

    They only thing i can think of that is unfair and sexist is the term hooker and giggalo. Both sell themselves, but if a man sells himself he's like a host and glorified. Girls who sell themselves are generally viewed as dirty.

    (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

    Double standards.

    the_Al_meh_ty July 15, 2020 10:22 pm
    I think in both situations, the person who's cheating is wrong. Ahk

    Well... I think that depends on the situation? For instance if the person who the cheater cheats with doesn't know that he or she already has someone, then they're definitely also a victim of the situation, because they're also getting cheated in a way.

    On the other hand, if they know and they're actively involved (and sometimes even encouraging) in destroying a relationship for personal gain... Can you really call the person blameless? Though, of course, there's that age old argument "you can't help who you love", but the fact that they were partially responsible in some way in taking away a person's happiness is still true...

    Personally (this is only my personal opinion, people can have different opinions, I don't think everyone has to agree with me) I think that both parties should at the very least feel guilty about the pain they cause to a person.

    That said, it's definitely true that a bigger portion of the blame lies on the cheater for sure, because they're the one who are making a promise and commitment to the person they're in a relationship with, and some unrelated third party has no such commitment or duty (unless that third party is a friend or family of course, in that case it's definitely betrayal).

    paranoidcommunist July 15, 2020 10:35 pm

    You are correct. If they're both aware but still do it anyway then both of them can go to hell. Man have some dignity.

Orlike..whatever July 15, 2020 4:40 pm

First Pauliana and now Estelle... Looks like my fictional girl crushes are increasing

Orlike..whatever July 15, 2020 1:42 pm

I feel very bad about the fact that I went Ha! That's even better than I expected! when I finally found out that he's a con man

Orlike..whatever July 9, 2020 8:05 pm

Thinking about it... This sensei really loves straight x gay don't they? I binged a bunch and. Every. Single. One was exactly that...

On a different note these two are so fecking adorable I just can't (cue SQUEEEEEE and some excited jumping around ⁽⁽◝( •௰• )◜⁾⁾ )

    Luscinia July 18, 2020 6:57 am

    Glasses + misunderstanding too

Orlike..whatever July 9, 2020 12:08 pm

This development

Orlike..whatever July 9, 2020 11:58 am

I hundred percent am feeling the seme rn

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