Tbh often times one of my least favourite parts about the possession trope is when the possessor doesn't have any memories from the OG/knows little, and I have to watch them fumble and sometimes make really embarrassing moves (I have a way too strong tendency for feeling secondhand embarrassment with the media I consume). Many times the MC may not have any viable excuses, and it is what it is, but way too many times I see them having one and not use it. Σ( ￣□￣||)
This applies here too. I feel like our current MC/Yana could easily act that her memory was affected due to the poison she consumed - considering how threatening the situation seemed, it doesn't seem impossible to me that some brain damage would've happened ╮(￣▽￣)╭ i understand some may potentially see this as an easy way out, but I personally just see it as the most logical thing to do in the situation. You don't have to pretend you know things you don't, or people don't necessarily look at you weird when you say something odd. Like she can easily ask about Yana's older brother without being suspicious. Ofc she can still use that excuse, but we'll see where things go.
Then again, I'm someone with alright social snills for an AuDH person, but I suck at reading specific cues in people and can't really fake things. I couldn't do what these kinds of MCs do. I'd be as honest as I can with the excuse of memory loss, so then, even if my personality is different, it'd be more understandable.
This is just my opinion though and there's no reason to take it seriously. This series isn't being annoying/that bad about this trope, it just came to my mind so I wished to talk aboyt it. (￣∇￣")
MC's so far super reliable poker face don't fail us now!!
Tbh I don't think it will, with her ability she likely already knew the princess knew (or maybe the information overload was too much, who knows), I think the last pic is there to be a cliffhanger for us readers. At least I fail to see how her so far almosy perfect poker face would lose here now.
Is anyone else having trouble reading the first chapter? Whenever I try to click it, I get redirected to "chapter 0" and if I press to go read the next chapter, it keeps me on a loop with the chapter zeros. I can only go to chapter 2 normally, and I have to go the main page first, then click chapter 2, to get there. If I try to go back to get to chapter 1, it goes back to the neverending loop of zeros that aren't even loading the images. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Yep, it's a common issue. You can read c1 here: https://batotoo.com/chapter/3083864
Yea that happened to me, I just read it on another website but don’t let that stop you from reading the rest, it’s really good
Tysm friend
When he said "amusing" i couldn't help my instincts and said "eugh" out loud
Also hell fucking yes for a FL who keeps her boundaries clear, I'm so glad to see that she isn't forcing herself to please him when he makes her uncomfortable
Mayer keeps cracking me up with his antics lmao, first it's his utter obliviousness and now he is gonna be sneaky and flirt with her like that all of a sudden?? MY MAN GIVE JUN A BREAK (but also keep going I'm loving it) ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
Love it when my slowburns get to see progress <33
I understand the frustration with FL's apparent lack of realisation or suspicion regarding the Duke/ML (I presume) and not even giving it a thought that he mighr be the true ML the game is looking for. However, I feel we shouls remember that the FL has repeated his game hundreds of times, stuck in a loop between the og ML candidates and going through them over and over again. Not even the endings - she just said you can die if you don't have everything perfect, and even the happy endings seem to be downright terrifying and violent, if I've understood her memories right.
Either way, she has been stuck in a cycle of abuse for a long, long time, and I believe it's understandable she still clings to the pattern she's used to and is stuck in a certain mindset. That's what people who are abused tend to do, they're just trying to survive, and sometimes that requires one to be a certain way (or our brains do shit in order to protect us from the trauma).
I think, if we allow her to heal a bit more and give her time, she will come to realise it. I'd personally hope for the Duke to be honest with her about him knowing the truth, but maybe there is a restriction on that aspect due to the system? Who knows. Either way, I'm curious to see where things go next.
the thing I honestly don't understand - I totally get what you said and agreed - but she is actively looking for the person, she's desperate, right? she has the system where she can "enter" the name of the true ML..
so she could just be like "I'm gonna think about it a bit, get some names and then go back to the castle (bc the system only works there?) and just test every name ever"..
and that dude would honestly be on top of the list bc he's suspicious af.. suddenly appearing out of nowhere after clearing all routes and being on her side and whatnot..
honestly? I would have checked his name just for the funsies before leaving the castle bc there's no penalty of it's wrong (if I remember correctly)
that's honestly the one thing that irks me when it comes to her behavior..she's desperate, but not desperate enough to just give it a try despite nothing bad that can happen?
Yep I though so too, if she can she should put the names of all the people she remembers in the password and see which one is right
I'm aware and def agree. I just also can't fathom what it must be like to be stuck in a specific system for so long to be suddenly separated - humans tend to stick to whatevee they're familiar with, and if we imagine all of ML's tattoo leaves are of when she has died, she must have gone through a ton of trauma. I imagine it's similar to the psychology of abuae victims ofter getting together with people who are abusers without realising it, as it is what they're familiar with and getting out of the loop can be extremely diffocult, even with the right resources. Of course, this is just from what I've read and heard, I don't have personal experience on this area thankfully, but I do have friends who have the habits of sinking into similar toxic/borderline abusive relationships with different people over and over again.
ppl hating on her? then they should isekai and live her life
jup jup, that's why I can see why she's acting like she is :) like you I (thankfully) have no experience for situations like that, so I don't know how realistic it would be for her to think about just trying the names, but I do know the comment section around here and people are prolly be like "oh she's so stupid" and whatnot..
dunno if my original comment sounded like that but I definitely didn't intend it to but like I said, dunno what's realistic in her situation or not, I just think maybe at least thinking once a out trying out random names would have been a realistic thing to do
I think not her but rather her actions and way of trying. And hating is not the right word maybe "frustrated"? Idk that what I think and feel. I don't hate her for doing it like she's doing it rn but it annoys me that she has so many possibilities that she could use but she doesn't and rather it's just revealed once and then let go as if it's nothing important to the plot.
i get why people don’t understand the female leads actions because no one has experienced being murdered/tortured multiple times. experiencing trauma as severe as she did would definitely affect a persons ability to think clearly significantly.
she shows a lot of signs on how her cognitive functions are being affected due to a stress response by her traumatic memories, often leading her to make choices that us readers cannot comprehend because we legit cannot put ourselves in her shoes.
hopefully now that she’s out of the palace she can think more clearly since she’s in an environment where she can finally breathe but it doesn’t erase the trauma she already endured so I don’t know about that.
i understand why people are frustrated but idk why anyone is expecting her to make rash decisions when her cognitive functions are already so badly affected by the trauma she’s experienced. she can’t even remember anything about her life before being in the game & even forgot her name at one point because of how bad her psyche is now. no person in their right mind would do as better as she did if they were to be in her shoes.
I think my only issue with this explanation is the fact that you don't really see how she's affected, you know? I've read several stories where people have reincarnated and whatnot and have suffered sth terrible and you can actually see it in their actions and "get explanations" - like you can see how stressed they are when they are alone, they can stop pretending to be strong, they actually lose themselves..
for me this series (as far as I remember at least ) is more like the best example on how to not deal with drama: solo leveling.
dude gut ripped apart by horrible statues and lost everyone and whatnot. and just in the next chapter he easily deals with wolves without even being bothered to enter another dungeon? didn't even care when he saw THE statue again..
so for me her reactions in this series are too calm? like yeah, ofc she's like "omg he killed me", but she also got tortured.. yet she's still able to normally talk to them? dunno if I got tortured and killed and remembered that and I had to see the person who did that to me I probably would puke a bit first or sth and not be like "oh no I don't want to talk to them"
you know what I mean? that's my issue as to why I think she's acting kinda weird, bc it doesn't really look like she's affected much by it.. she doesn't even really seem like emotionally distanced from it all
In my opinion, she has been constantly forced to interact with the guys who have abused her, the system giving her zero choice on how she can act or what she can say. She's had barely any choice until now. Human brains also tend to shield ourselves from trauma and it can cause different reactions with different peoole (ie. forgetting things happened, or knowing they happened but not remembering the details). I've noticed that I, personally, despite my traumas not being nearly close to being murdered and tortured over and over again, my brain's reaction to them is to shut off my emotions. I'm still aware they happened, and I can talk about them openly and think about them. I just don't feel the emotions (or to the degrees I probably should), but people around me wouldn't describe me as "emotionally distanced", even if I somewhat am.
Ofc your viewpoint is valid, and this is just my way of choosing to intepret the story so far and their portrayal of the situation. Avoidance is another way of dealing with these things, and because she cannot physically distance herself from them until now, I can see her distancing them in her mind just enough so she doesn't lose her mind.
I would definitely like it if there was given more attention and time to her trauma, and I don't deny the intrepertations that the story isn't doing enough or good enough of a job, and my mind might still change in the future.
Accidentally sent it before I was done.
Either way, basically I'm open to different opinions and just shared my own. I'm more open towards the story and what they do wi=^ it, but depending on where they go from here, I can see myself changing my mind on it.
All opinions on this are valid, I'm glad people are having a conversation about it in my replies instead of arguing about subjective things.
yeah same :)
just interested in seeing how other people see a story who might have a different background or knowledge of a certain situation
for now I'll continue reading it to see where it goes, but at least for me personally it's kinda difficult (?) to read bc I'm missing reactions which are "natural" in my eyes. like you I can simply only go by my experiences and at least from that (and the person that I am) I would have acted drastically different..
reminds me of a discussion I had on another series where it was completely understandable for me why the MC acted like she did, but another person said she was acting stupid (tho couldn't discuss with that person properly about their view and opinions, which is sad).
especially for topics like those (trauma, harassment, ..) it's interesting to hear and see how other people deal with it, not only to get a new view on the story, but maybe even to be able to understand someone irl a bit better
Feels like pages are missing from the recent chapter (64). The beginning feels so disconnected from the previous chapter, there's no way this is its
Edit: didn't realise a whole chapter was missing. It been added now, things make more sense now.
Gods, I hate how Metatron is how he is while possessing the brother's body. It makes me cringe so much, I absolutely hate it! Bro can't get it to his thick head that in the bodies they possess rn, they're siblings, and keeps making these romantic insinuations towards her - frankly, it makes me feel disgusted, it's not even funny.
After binging the first 23 chapters, here's things that came to my mind that I wanted to comment on:
For one, I hope we'll now get to see Eden be able to leave MC's room more freely from now on. The whole reason as to why she didn't want him to go anywhere was so he and her sister wouldn't meet, and now that she discovered the true nature of the curse (person becomes obsessed with the last person they see before the curse activates/finalises), she should be able to realise that was the reason for things to happen in the OG plot. Now that the curse is broken, that should no longer happen.
I also wonder if the dad has been aware of MC's constitution all along? The fact that she is a human mana stone, I mean. He purposely gave Eden to her, intending for him to get attached to her and obsessively protect her after. I assume in the og plot, MC had probably disregarded Eden, so her sister had somehow come to be in contact with him, and presumably be the last person he sees --> leading to the obsession he had in the og plot. We know MC originally died bc her constitution was discovered and her life force was drained. This makes me think this could've been a way for the Duke to protect bis daughter (or who knows, use her in some way), as Eden's obsession would have had her kidnapped and not let anyone else take her away or do anything to her.
I'm really curious on Canon's deal. He acts dumber most of the time, but there have been 2-3 moments now when the MC points out how different he has acted for. I'm just curious as to why he'd pretend to be an idiot if he isn't, what benefit does it give him? Definitely an interesting choice.
Last, WHERE IS OUR SISTER??? We've barely seen her, and I really, reallu was hoping to get way more sisterly bonding!! Outrageous I say, outrageous! (/hj) Σ( ￣□￣||)
I'm so happy this is finally back, but gods, I can't help but sigh/cringe a little when I see the officials translating specific terms literalöy in English again like despite murim/martial arts/historical settings not being new to me, and I know the terms they use doesn't just refer to family, it still feels wrong to see the characters calling each other big/little brother.
Skill issue.
i'm personally fine with it but it's so annoying when readers unfamiliar with these terms misunderstand
Them calling yakgwa a donut is funny
same vibes as the jelly-filled donuts from pokemon
Yeahh, that's the worst part about this. Idk why translators are afraid of sharing cultural awareness sometimes - like just have an explanation of the terms when they first come up, or like an end note for explanations.
Honestly imo one of the annoying ones is when the translators are american and decide to change the metric system used in the original comic to the freedom units, instead of just doing a footnote where the conversions are (like it's usually done when other way around) Σ( ￣□￣||) it's s big pet peeve of mine when reading officials and seeing it. It's assuming all English readers are from the US, when I'd argue a lot of us are non-native speakers from non-English speaking countries, at least on these sites. (I'm aware places like the UK/Canada have a bit funky use of the systems but I mention america bc one example that comes to my mind was when the officials erased the og Celsius used and just wrote the Fahrenheit - and I know only a handful of places in the world use the latter.)
Sorry for the rant lol (￣∇￣")
Atleast they stopped changing the names i was reading lookism in English on webtoon and then found out the Indonesian one was so far ahead and i switched and got so confused on who’s who
"big brother, i want to #%@#!! you in the $#%!! and make you cu#$%"
"little brother, don't too rough on me....pls?"
(≧∀≦) sorry