For some reason the logical part of my brain started overpowering my yaoi-colored lenses while reading this and, well, I now agree that Yiyoung should gain more experience/date around a bit before committing to Daehyung for life. Like Yiyoung said, it's not about the age gap but the vast experience Daehyung has compared to him. Daehyung has already lived such a full life, Yiyoung has barely lived his. He is literally just starting. That imbalance is bound to cause problems in the future, as evidenced by Yiyoung's insecure moments and Daehyung's struggle to reassure him properly. I still do ship them by yaoi logic, but realistically, I'd want Yiyoung to enjoy his youth first.
I don't understand how is a beautiful thing to have many dating experiences. I'm 27 and I've been single my whole life and I want to have just one boyfriend in my life. It's such a beautiful thing that Yiyoung found director in his early twenties so he can have a beautiful and fulfilling life with him. Dating many assholes, getting disappointed by others meanwhile he has a man that to be honest has been so good to him. No I think he better skip all the bad part and be happy with director. Yiyoung had many one night stands with guys which asked him to pay more for the hotel room , another guy said that Yiyoung has a decent face but nothing else.
If you've only ever dated trash, the bare minimum would seem like princess treatment. That's why Yiyoung is so head over heels for Daehyung over the littlest things. I didn't say he should sleep around like he used to do, I'm saying it would be nice if he has a bit more experience in healthy dating before committing to man 15 years older than him. Like I said, I'm speaking not through yaoi logic, but realistically. And realistically, a relationship between a 38 year old and a 23 year old would be imbalanced.
But that's purely a hypothetical situation. "He should got in a healthy relationship with someone his age" it's not like he can just *do* that
He didn't sleep around bc he felt like it, he just couldn't find partners who wanted a serious relationship and not just sex.
The idea that you should throw away smth you have bc you should experience smth that you may not get bc it involves a third party appearing its just hopeful thinking
I get why you say it's inbalance but that also applies to relationship in which one its just more naive than the other regardless of age, yet they all can still work as long as they can communicate and work through their differences
When Shao Qun said: "It's my first time falling in love. You have to allow me to make mistakes." Funny how it was also Chengxiu's first time falling in love and yet he would have NEVER done that to you !
In cases where the uke is kinda blinded by love like Hangyul and the seme is toxic like Eunhan, who are you usually angry at more? The uke for being dumb or the seme for being an asshole?
Because I was ranting to my friend about doormat ukes and how much I wish they'd have self-respect instead of staying with the toxic seme and he was like, "You should hate on the toxic seme. Not the victim."
Chat I was speechless!!! What should I reply back oh my gosh I hate being wrong lmao
In this case, the toxic seme. Because, you know, when you fall hard in love, you can't see all the atrocities that your loved one do with you or with the other people. And I hope the toxic relationship ends and the uke finds someone who respects and trully loves him. Example: Doronuma.
I was about to say this. Agreeable
How are you going to be mad at someone for being stupid over someone who is intentionally hurting others? Frustration from the outside looking in is normal because everyone always thinks “well that’s not how I would have handled that” but to be full on mad at the victim over the manipulator is a little … like if you have a friend who’s dating a shitty person are you going to be mad at your friend? Or are you going to hate their partner?
True, thank you for this perspective! I usually hate on toxic semes, but sometimes it gets a little frustrating when the uke is too desperate to realize they deserve better :')
Uhhh ok lmao first of all from which part of my post did you get "full on mad at the victim"??? Are you... okay? Why are YOU mad? That's embarrassing lmaoooo projection is an odd thing! I was just "ranting" to my friend because I wanted the uke to have "self-respect" in case you forgot how to read <3
Yeah, it's so frustrating that the uke can't see that the other one is toxic. All we can do is hope that the relationship ends and uke has a happy ending with someone else.
Seok hyun: Don't you know you're the only one for me?
Also Seok hyun: *goes on a date with the omega who likes him and gives him a chance*
And the crowd is... Oh the crowd is confused...
I know right n like the mc was all confident in wanting to seduce him but he then becomes insecure about it I- MM
Exactly!! Like what exactly is the dynamic here? Confident or insecure uke? Loyal or casual seme? Which iz ittt
I'm too lazy to re-read so does anyone remember why Sehan is suddenly being so cruel and mean to Chaon? Like I thought he was obsessed and possessive of Chaon, why is he being like this?
I also had to go back a few chps... he was being abused by one of the mafia members so in a panic/ptsd type mindset he tried to escape any way he could, which was via the balcony. Sehan came back right as he was about to jump and interpreted it as him trying to leave him/ hurt himself, so is upset. What IM confused about is why Sehan seems to be completely ignoring the signs of distress/abuse... such as the bruise on his face ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
He lost his brain midstory fr
True, like I expect him to crash out or atleast show some concerned but no he ignores it and just straight up fuxked him.
Ohh okay now I get it! I thought for a minute that something happened before that and I forgot. So that's just how Sehan reacted. Yikes! He's more self-centered than I thought
LMAOOOO I agree
I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this: Cheating is a personality problem. Not everyone is capable of cheating. Even if someone goes through ABSOLUTE HELL (poverty, debt, hunger), if that person has MORALS, they won't even THINK of cheating on their partner. NO MATTER WHAT. They will just break up and end things, because that's the correct and normal thing to do. So the fact that Mincheol was able to cheat on Haesoo, means his morals were bad from the start.
He said during his internal monologue that Haesoo was a challenge to win over, while Ari was not, and he found that a bit boring. Playboys love the attention and sexual pleasure they get from "easy" women, but at the end of the day it bores them and so they look for new women to catch. The author hasn't revealed everything about what went wrong between Mincheol and Haesoo yet, but I can confidently say that Mincheol does not deserve a second chance.
Totally agree with you, but it also stands true I think that time really does change some people. u see morals aren't something u r born with and even personalities can change , people DO change for the worse even when they were relatively a better person in the past, even more so when such person doesn't really have a guiding hand / parental figure to lead them. It just depends on how suspectable one is to change in the wrong path. Needless to say tho , he deserves to still get absolutely fucked over and have his balls smashed because no past can justify ur actions, explain it maybe , but once the fucker cheated then he deserves whatever karma he has coming for him amen
I don't think it's that simple in real life tbh
Yea, he not only cheated, he cheated with cruelty... after her going into debt for him, and working several jobs and taking total care of him. I think his problem is he was spoiled by his persona, good looks, good at all things, praised by all, wanted by all.. he thinks he can do anything, get anything or anyone, without having to put out effort. I look forward to his wakeup call.
Oh? I'm curious, give me one example where cheating is justified.
it's okay to sympathize with them and still acknowledge that they did wrong lol
You lost me at sympathizing with a cheater lmao. When gfs/wives who have been cheated on because their bf/husband went through some hardship talk about their experience and men comment "I can understand why he cheated"... you remind me of those men pookie
ah.. i hope you don't take this the wrong way but you're kinda reaching with that one. are you projecting, pookie? it's possible to understand where they’re coming from without excusing their actions
"The U.S. is wrong for supporting genocide by providing weapons to Israel, but I UNDERSTAND where they're coming from. I sympathise with them" - that's how you sound with your "what they did is wrong but I understand" logic, pookie! Hope that helps! <3
Just admit you have a terrible moral code lmao oopsies!! That says a lot ^^
see, you're reaching again- you keep using generalizations that is over the top to prove your point, which just ironically makes you prove nothing at all. so let me try it this time, you sound like that type of person who uses bible verses on debates; that's the kind of stupidity i'm getting from you :)) an undeveloped bag of cells who pretends otherwise
not gonna point out my other arguments because clearly you are incapable of processing that? wouldn't want to overload that mini brain of yours pookie
Can someone please explain to me why Ceasar tolerates Dmitri even though he knows full well Dmitri wants to kill Leewon? I know Ceasar's love for Leewon is twisted, but why is he not bothered at all whenever Dmitri hurts and tries to kill Leewon?
I'm asking because I read the 1st season so long ago, and just binge read the rest, so all I can remember is that Ceasar and Dmitri are cousins and have been close since they were young. I can't remember a reason why he would be okay with Dmitri trying to assassinate Leewon to this extent.
THEY USED TO WHAT WHERE WHEN???? CONTEXT PLS
OH MY GOSH I meant to type they've been close since they were young sjdvskshd!!!! My mind was mush when I typed this at 3 a.m. I'm sorry I'm gonna edit it aaa so embarrasing T_________T
I think there's this one time that Dmitri "low key" helped Leewon.... I guess author keep going back to how disgusting Dmitri is and how he wants leewon dead after all... At the same time Caesar is probably confident that Dmitri will not actually do it or else he will kill dmitri himself ... But author also hint that dmitri dun understand the level of Caesar's seriousness towards his relationship with Leewon... Either way it's a plot that will goes to nowhere that author keep bringing out ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Little spoiler
Dmitri weirdly plays a huge role later on in their sick and twisted dynamic it keeps them both on edge, it’s like they want someone to play between them- but it’s just something I noticed while reading the later chapters …
The seme doesn't sleep with the guy, but the uke waits outside in the rain thinking that they did and that makes the seme pity him. They make out and are about to have sex when the uke says he doesn't want penetration "today" after what the seme just did with someone else, so the seme clears things up and admits that he didn't have sex with the other guy.
The uke asks, "Were you trying to make me jealous? Have you finally fallen for me?" and that makes seme snap (denial is a river in Egypt). He says a ton of awful things to uke. It goes something like this:
Seme: Me? Fall for you? I only wanted to play with you since the beginning. Let's end this.
Uke: You're lying. Are you sure you're not gonna regret this?
Seme: Regret? You think too highly of yourself.
Uke walks out and cries in the rain. In other words, REGRET ARC IS COMING >:)
he's so fucking stupid man I hate him so much
thank you for spoilers
Thanks for this juicy info. Love you <3
Thank you!! Where did you read it??
Same he's so gonna regret this. And you're welcome!
You're welcome! Ly too <3
You're welcome! And I read the raws at newtoki339.com. You can search the novel using its Korean title.
The best!!!
And to those who ship Doyeon and Daehyung in the comments, I totally understand y'all. On that same note, it would've made sense if the author also introduced a character that was ACTUALLY interested in Yiyoung other than Daehyung. Because since the beginning of the story, we've been told no one's ever really fallen in love with Yiyoung other than Daehyung, which is odd because doesn't author explicitly say that Yiyoung is extremely good looking? How come he is never genuinely hit on by anyone, then? Am I the only one who finds it odd?
That girl who is doing a school project with Yiyoung is interested in Yiyoung but neither Yiyoung knows because he is so in love with director
That's just a crush. No one has actively pursued him before? With that face card? And with how kind he is? Idk it's just something I've noticed in a lot of Korean manhwas. The author glazes how good-looking and adorable the uke is, but for some reason they have never been in a relationship. Never been properly loved. The seme however has dated and made love to everything that has legs.
No I remember the uke saying he has dated I mean he had sex flings but they were all toxic so
Didn't he said all the guys he git with told him he was plain and boring after being w him?
No je said that to himself because he compared seme exes with him