This might be an unpopular opinion but I see so many people making comments about this so I decided to speak up. I think it’s very rude and offensive to compare that green bitch to Shrek or goblins. Shrek has been a nostalgic character for many and he doesn’t deserve to be compared to this absolute disgrace and insult to gods.
I have mixed feelings about Dokjae and Areum, also I have mixed feeling about the comments people make about them. I have a feeling that if their gender was swiped, people would’ve reacted differently. Plus, it’s ironic that Dokjae is becoming the very thing she’s scared of and it kinda makes sense but that means Dokjae needs help, she doesn’t need her past to become an excuse.
I’m not trying to justify Areum’s actions because he was in fact, being sexist. But then again, opinions change all the time, they come and go. He sure has a lot of place to grow and that should happen and I totally agree with that. But I don’t think he deserves to be traumatized for life because of his beliefs which is what I see people tend to do and a lot of people agree with them, while on the other hand I have a feeling that if Dokjae was a man ans Areum was a sexist woman it’d be a taboo to try to blame him in any way, or specially saying “he’s signed up for this” which I think the same thing applied to Dojae as well in her past relationship but I don’t see her being blamed as much. People have a lot of reasons why they feel the need to stay in a toxic relationship. Sometimes people are willing to harm themselves so much and even go as far as being traumatized for life because of the obsession and attachments they have to someone. There are people who are and get in a relationship with their rapist. But that doesn’t really make it okay, it doesn’t matter if the subject of trauma is a man or woman.
It’s not really weird for us to see a woman chasing down a man and get unnecessarily physical with a man, grabbing a man’s wrist but if the gender is reversed, that’s toxic.
I also wanna note that the alley thing is what that makes me have mixed feelings about their relationship because despite what I said, I also have a contradicting sense that he could’ve become like Dokjae if she didn’t know Judo. But then again, we mever see it happening, so maybe he wouldn’t rape her? But I can’t justify him.
What I said had more to do with the fact that I have a feeling that people would go easier on Areum if he was a woman than justifying what the characters actually did because in the end I think both of them are kinda the same shit.
I also feel like I need to clarify this because ik there are people who’re going to say “I’m like those men who try to turn women’s problems to men’s problems” or I’m sexist. Well imo both men and women are suffering in a sexist society (which is the society I live in). In a society in which a gender is an object to buy, one gender has to be the buyer. So we have a toxic and sexist dynamic going on for both sides. I think it’s useless to try to prove whether men are suffering more or women are suffering more, which doesn’t justify generalization and being sexist. Sexism against women ends bad for men and sexism against women ends bad for men in the end. For example, men on the other side have more trouble expressing emotions and speaking up about abuse and rape. Specially in a society like mine in which they’d be called “faggots” for having emotional truama or even being raped. It’s specially harder for men to express what they go through if the abuser is a woman. While most people diagnosed with depression are women, men are the ones who commit the most suicides. Then again, my point isn’t to prove that men are suffering more because I think both men and women suffer, but differently. I actually think a lot of the problems men go through is first, because people sometimes tend to describe femininity in a wrong way, so it makes femininity as a whole a “weak” thing while those traits don’t really have anything to do with femininity. Secondly because they put femininity down so a man who’s feminine, is less respectable than a masculine man, which is how it is in my society it could be different in your society. Also a lot of has to do with relating sex roles to power and hierarchy. I don’t wanna get too far into it because I think I’ve made my points clear enough by now
Btw I really like their relationship to have more progress and both of them learn to understand each other to some degree mutually and grow together because both of them need it (although I wouldn’t really blame them if they decided just to not have a relationship with each other) because it’s not everyday you see in a story a woman being in a relationship with a feminine man and I like that the story doesn’t give a shit about cliches and acknowledges that different people do exist
I’m not really satisfied with the ending. The excuse the seme (sorry I forgot his name) was so bad and rushed and cliche (without any good reasons, if it’s cliche and reasonable it’s fine) that I preferred he’d just admit he was selfish and cared about the job he always dreamed about more than about some guy he doesn’t have a deep relationship with, yet. Like I don’t see how the uke was in danger at all? Bad excuse. Maybe I missed something. Other than that, the uke forgave him very easily, also believed him as well. I feel attacked on a personal level that the seme thought this was a believable excuse. If I missed something let me know.
I’m annoyed because I see how this story had potential but ended up like that because it was rushed. I don’t wanna be too hard on the author but I’ll probably look forward to reading more from her even tho this story didn’t satisfy me but I can see how their stories can have potential
The whole “pride as a man” situation bothers me and if anyone said that to me I wouldn’t stay there for a second because I can see how this “pride as a man” thing can arise a lot more issues in a relationship but I’m looking forward to see some progress in their relationship and I really hope it doesn’t turn out like other mangas when a dominant female suddenly switches to a completely new person for a man. I see this story has potential and I really don’t want it to end up cliche
EDIT: the symbolism idea isn’t relevant I hadn’t read the last 2 chapters when I made this comment but I’d really like a story with this theme
I’ll be much much happier if this story is an actual symbolism of the relationship between humans and god in religious sense not some random dude having god complex. I always disliked the idea that some random dude who has less personality than a toast with no interests and not even that pretty gets so much attention specially to the point people literally throw all their pride for him, specially considering the fact that those people have been raised the same way and they’re too selfish and most likely are harder to literally beg to suck someone’s dick. It just doesn’t make any sense. Other than that the main character, doesn’t really have any characteristics or talents that spark “this guy has one of the rarest possible scholarships” about him. He even has less personality than the gary sue. He’s stupidly naive. This guy has an impossible scholarship, and you’re telling me he actually thinks people randomly kiss each other in foreign countries? How is everyone else in this god damn school not weirded out by some random boring guy kissing another boring guy he barely knows at all now and then? (Not because they’re both guys of course) How is everyone here so dumb? Do rich people have no common sense? Do they actually come from 18th century? Do rich people not give birth to girls?
I’m gonna be disappointed if this story isn’t a symbolism because that’s the only way everything makes sense and I actually think this might be where this story is going because the manga is self-aware at least.
I wish it had something like this too but no
Its just the ol' good God complex and romanticised s*cual, mental and physical abuse ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭