Honestly seme is kind of relatable because no real life man could ever be more perfect than the fictional ones that roam my head rent free
Wait, so seme had a one night stand with the uke in the first chapter, pretended like it never happened and befriended uke while never bringing it up, then had sex with him again in chapter 9 but lied saying it was actually their first time? Am I misunderstanding here, or is this guy a manipulative little shit?
nope, you got it absolutely right! he's been stalking him, and manipulating everything since the beginning while mc has no idea... it's quite disgusting tbh. It's crazy to me that this guy is considered a "green flag" by many readers. the bar sure is real fcking low
Ok??? Everyone’s praising this and considering it wholesome, and I’m just like- um?? …..No? Not even slightly?? Glad I’m not the only one who sees it! lmao
like I said the bar is too low he's "pretty" so most are blind to his manipulative behavior. Sure I can acknowledge that he loves mc, but "love" that's a byproduct of obsession is always questionable to me. The way they got together was him taking advantage of mc's vulnerabilities and manipulating the situation from the start.
Oh tell me about it, a lot of readers scream red flag and all but will simp on pretty/handsome characters even when they do crazy fucked up shit. They would suddenly get amnesia and forget the crazy bat shit things a seme has done
Really don’t get it if being a bottom failed that many times why didn’t he just try being a top for a while lol
BL logic lmao it only makes sense in the story not irl
no the first time hurt and was shit, but then on he liked it and wanted more, we don't know if he's tried top or not tho
I’m sorry, this just has too much going on. Way too much time being given over to bland and pathetic side characters. Why should we care about them? What do they have going on that’s more important than the main couple? Not much. A decent plot could have been fleshed out with just the young guy and the father/son duo as the main focus, none of this other drama was needed. It’s like too much seasoning was added to a soup that already tasted good, ya over did it. It’s a drop for sure
Wow for once, the seme didn’t do anything wrong and it’s the uke’s own insecurities and indecisiveness that kept souring things. He’s really got to work on his own self esteem if this relationship is going to last. Other than the obvious, there’s not a lot of depth here. The art is very pretty, but it definitely feels like it might be the author’s first time writing a BL.
For real. * spoiler mentioned*
MC just saw ML with a girl and assumed they’re dating and left, god the communication sucks. ML was trying and he also initiated a lot of the communication, then accepted the break up for MC.
Maybe because you're not gay and you don't get it, but these are REALISTIC fears and emotions gay people go through especially if it's one of their first time dating someone who could also like the opposite sex. Not to mention top it off with a long unrequited love for them and a misunderstanding.
Whoa, whoa, whoaaa, lot of assumptions there. Do you know me? Wild to assume I’m straight based off of a random comment. Anyhoo, liking the same gender does come with its own fears and hesitations, that’s true, but it doesn’t negate the fact that he let his insecurity and distrust eat him up. This can happen to anyone regardless of sexuality, and it’s definitely something that can only be resolved through healthy communication, and developing self confidence. Seme isn’t in the wrong for innocently talking to a woman. As uke gets older and continues in this relationship, he will need to learn trust, and the ability to discuss fears with his partner before jumping to random conclusions or panicking. This is true of gay/queer/ relationships as well as straight ones.
Preach. Sexuality has nothing to do with this lmao. I’m part of LGBTQ+ myself but I also am aware MC needs to learn one day to communicate before entering a relationship. Just because your experience with straight people is bad doesn’t mean it would be the same, not until they communicate. ML is not a mind reader or a perfect human being, nor is MC.
Exactly so why are people dog piling on the MC?? There's no right and wrong in this situation, relationships are so much more complicated than black and white. It's not the ML fault for being born with his own sexuality and there's nothing wrong with the insecurities that the MC is facing so why are we dog piling on him??
I hate BL readers for this very reason because you always only like to critique on the more "feminine" or "gay" guy in these mangas. You guys seriously disgust me
Did I ever say he was wrong? I did not, but it's not right to shit on the MC for having reasonable fears especially with his long history with the ML. Everyone's acting like he's biphobic when he never once shamed the ML for his sexuality but rather internalized a lot of his insecurities which does happen a lot of times and that's nothing to shit someone on but rather to help
How do you even know it’s because MC is feminine or “gay”? That’s not even the reason, ML also looks quite feminine. We critique the lack of ability to communicate and that’s what MC needs to work on, I do understand he’s afraid but he’ll need to overcome that soon enough for their relationship.
Okay I think I kinda misunderstood what you said. I thought you were saying MC is not at fault at all, I didn’t agree with that. But I agree now that MC being shifted on for his fears isn’t right, I just am annoyed by his lack of communication and internalizing it. But that’s not something he can just change, it’s not gonna happen overnight. ML also should’ve inquired more when MC asked to break up, he felt a little cold, but eh.
shitted on* not shifted bruh
Thanks you get my point, it's a nuanced conversation especially regarding a relationship like theirs with many layers. Both people have their own communication problems and internalized problems due to the misunderstanding they had when they were younger. There's nobody who's right or wrong in this.
I was looking in general in comments, I've been an avid BL readers for many years now and I've always seen the same pattern on critiquing/shaming on the "bottom" in the relationship. It always feels like some form or internalized misogyny by some of the commentors. That's why I've just gotten sick and tired of it now because everyone always lack nuances when discussing the relationships that happen in BLs
Oh yeah I’ve seen that too. It’s quite common unfortunately and it’s also nasty how they fetishize these types of stories just cause they’re men and part of LGBTQ+. I have read stories more where they hate on the MLs than seeing everyone bashing MC because authors just love writing toxic MLs.
Yeah I agree, I can’t be talking about communication when I also struggle to communicate. That’s why I said they aren’t perfect beings, I understand the fear of the MC. Just that I hope they overcome it in the future and develop confidence.
Well I hate that my opinion on this one comic stirred you up so much, although I too have read BL and Bara for many years and am happy to critique any character regardless of whether they are bottoms, tops, etc. Definitely not a bottom hater or anything bizarre like that, it’s unfortunate if you got that impression. If I don’t like a Top I’ll call them out too. Hell, sometimes I don’t agree with ANYBODY in a manga. Haha. My opinion in my very first comment has not changed and won’t, but thats alright. You don’t have to agree with me, nor should you feel like you have to! That’s not my intention. I just share my two cents here and there. We don’t have to agree with each other, that’s the beauty of a comment section. (●'◡'●)ﾉ
That's fine no need for the passive aggressiveness though
Not me lusting after shaggy old guy because he pulled out some cool moves
Bars are on the ground but same( ˊ˂˃ˋ )
Welp, so much for this being wholesome muscular coupling.
Falling in love a man that you know actively hunts and slaughters your kind is wild. Would that be Internalized racism/ specie-ism? Lmao. The heart wants what it wants I guess
I think it is crazier to be the hunter who fell in love with the beast...as you said, the heart wants what it wants.
Isn't it like when Guy A falls in love to Guy B regardless of their gender? I forgot what they are called but I believe that's also the case here.
I remember now! They are called Pansexual. o.o
All of these chapters should have been dedicated to fully fleshing out the first couple. The extra stories weren’t needed, and just caused the first to feel super rushed. Really wanted to see further growth, especially from Tasaki. He claims to not be prejudiced, but has quite a bit of homophobia and assuming behavior that needs to be ironed out. I also think that the story would have worked a lot better if HE had of been the one who fell in love first, rather than the gay man, that way it would have further dispelled the stereotype that gay men just automatically fall in love with any male they live with.
**builds a 40ft wall around this rare, precious couple so that they remain pure characters and aren’t ruined by a terrible second volume or awful bonus stories**
No seriously, if I had to nitpick, we COULD have been given more info about the seme, but honestly I don’t care that we didn’t. Everything else is nice enough, and although I enjoy some thrills and drama, sometimes I just want to read a super sweet mushy story without a whole lot of shit. And this gave me that. It’s a great “feel good” story.
So agreed to the top!