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Life is just full of so many questions! I'm so curious about things, there's so much to learn and see that just being alive for longer means I might get to know something I didn't know before. Even when its bad (this is definitely the horror lover in me) I'm still so curious about how things got here and why its like this.
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Uh oh Minho you're losing control, time to act unhinged like you always do.

This is why IRL people are advised to just leave abusive situations. Preferably when their abuser is away and with a safe persons support, no confrontation, closure is for therapy.

But that would be waaaay too safe & sane for this Manwha and I'm here for the drama.

My guess...maybe confinement? We were like 60% there already ╥﹏╥

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Continuing to love this because rather than a generic "Minho was abused and is now abusive" we're really getting into the nitty gritty of his flavor of toxicity now.

Minho with his skyscraper sized control issues feels like he can only safely show affection when he is somethings whole world (like a puppy, or traumatized kid with no boundaries and poor self-regulation). But when he gets reminded he doesn't have control (puppy dies, kid seeks comfort with someone else) he literally loses his sense of self and spirals.

To reclaim control he thinks he needs to prove he doesn't care, but what he's actually doing is trying to prove that he IS the center of Woojin's world. He enjoys watching him get upset/devastated because it proves that Woojin only has him which helps feel safe keeping Woojin around (because again he only feels safe giving affection to something he feels he can control). He also needs to degrade Woojin because him having self-worth would mean he'd have something outside of Minho. Can't have that.

When so many problematic BL characters feel like such caricatures "I'm evil/abusive cuz...I was lonely or something" this is refreshing

A university located in a city in the United States. Taehwan and Dojin are friends and housemates. W...

  • Author: Dolsha
  • Genres: Yaoi / Smut / Drama / Webtoons

Not on mangago unfortunately. but season 2 of this is great if you want to see a seme self sabotage into being crying the uke names in an alley while it rains. Love it!

Aejoon, a high school teacher who's a die hard fan of Siyeol, a member in the national idol gro...

  • Author: Nabit,Earl,Cereal
  • Genres: Webtoons / Romance / Yaoi

"the way he begs me to love him is indescribably lovely...." what else can I say here, I thought so too!

Lee Nan, who enjoyed his sex life frivolously, found himself constantly attracted to the president J...

  • Author: Tr,Tteokbap
  • Genres: Webtoons / Yaoi / Adult / Mature

I love this one because ML goes from being so cool and in control to so pathetic? ML had all the power (MC was head over heels even though he was getting NOTHING back at points) and then fell way harder. MC gives him a "you are unwelcome and honestly you disgust me" talk and ML is all "just keep meeting me plz".

I love LOVE it. Also with some of tops most recent behavior...yeah he lost it big time. MC is no angel, but that's not what this list is about, and the groveling is lovely!

FROM BEEHIVE SCANS:Rookie actor Seo Yeon-Oh lives a pathetic life as a no-namer; paying his dad'...

  • Author: Eeej
  • Genres: Webtoons / Yaoi / Romance

ML uses money and the fact that MC likes him to run him around. Also had some callous jerk moments and I believe may have sexually assaulted him? There is a chase arc and some groveling, he definitely feels bad but tbh I wanted more groveling...that might be because ML looks VERY good groveling

Even in death or rebirth…You won’t be able to get rid of me…He ended his life be...

  • Author: Bamilssi,Zaru
  • Genres: Yaoi / Drama / Historical / Psychological / Webtoons

Technically it is the previous version of the Seme who did the worst of it (current is no angel either). But we've got a possessive jerk who tries to force MCs affections either way, and then realizes MC is prepared to die to stay away from him. Also a funny one, you want to watch a grown man be jealous of his 5 year old because MC likes him better? But also can't do anything because if he's not nicer MC is ready to start the reincarnation process again? Then this is for you!

Caught in the clutches of an abusive relationship, Sooin longs to escape. A vampire who finds human ...

  • Author: PANGIN, PINKO
  • Genres: Yaoi / Adult / Smut / Mature / Romance / Slice Of Life / Drama / Webtoons

So there's lots of regret/mistakes from both ML and 2nd top in this. But my favorite scene is in like the first 5-10 chapters, the abusive 2nd top begging MC to save his life and MC very much not doing that was great for me! Loved it!

As a super-powerful person who can control a person's mind and see the near future, Hae-Seo beg...

  • Author: Ripe banana,Tan Kong
  • Genres: Yaoi / Webtoons / Supernatural

ML was gaslighting MC, not just lying. In the real sense of the word, where he manipulates the world around him to make him deny his own sense of whats happening/real. He definitely regrets it though, MC uses power to forget the ML existed entirely and ML does NOT take it well.

The breakdown/chase arc honestly made me laugh but was also satisfying for what I was looking for!

Five years after high school graduation, Chiwoo and Kyujin are all grown up and still going steady. ...

  • Author: Oryu
  • Genres: Yaoi / Mature / Drama / Webtoons

See my review for "Back to School". Side story doesn't ruin it for me (you'll see what I mean) because I got what I needed first

Chiwoo’s got issues. Upon returning to school after the “incident” last year, he v...

  • Author: Oryu
  • Genres: Shounen Ai / Drama / Mature / Webtoons / Yaoi

Continuing with the shitty 2nd top realizes they are unwanted and unnecessary, we've got an obsessive and possessive 2nd top who watches his love interest (MC) fall in love with someone else. Watching this dude self sabotage out of possessive panic and then cry when MC wants nothing to do with him was great, and then I got to see it again in the follow-up!

Loved it, high school BL is not my favorite but this is one of my exceptions!

Working at a ski resort to pay off his debts, Yu-wol's hand was hurt accidentally when an unfam...

  • Author: DO.D
  • Genres: Yaoi / Smut / Webtoons

I need to re-read this one, but as I remember both tops have regrets but the 2nd top (not ML) is the one who really ends up groveling and pathetic. He treated the MC like absolute dog shit, all trigger warnings for all the abuse, but ends up alone with on drugs without MC.

I do remember feeling pretty satisfied, I love watching a shitty 2nd top realize they are unwanted and unnecessary 😀

Ha Joyoon, a reporter for TPA Communications — a foreign news agency — has been in a com...

  • Author: AMALILLIA
  • Genres: Yaoi / Drama / Romance / Slice Of Life / Webtoons

More on the inconsiderate end than abusive and the 2nd top not the ML.

MC disappears (presumed dead) and his partner at the time starts dating someone else. When MC comes back his partner basically says he can't deal with him and has a new relationship, and MC is heartbroken. However MC gets better, and there's a different ML of course MC's old partner ends up regretting hard, including drunken cry sessions and begging forgiveness.
More on the sad side, but still satisfies for me!

Kim Euihyun has decided he doesn’t want to live. He feels nothing anymore. He has no future to...

  • Author: Euja,으자
  • Genres: Yaoi / Drama / Romance / Webtoons

The seme from this is who I picture when I think of this trope done how I like, goes from obsessive abusive jerk to having a panic attack imagining his life without the MC. Definitely not for the faint of heart in the beginning, dudes a red flag but thats why the grovel hits so good!!!

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One thing I really appreciate about this story is that it shows a behavior that is sometimes depicted as very romantic (I don't want you to have anyone but me!) and displays it as the controlling ego-centered and abusive behavior it actually is in a lot of situations.

This top is just as mentally ill as Woojin, its just expressed differently. Woojin can't stand (his perception) of being alone, and this top can't stand (his perception) of being out of control/abandoned.

Both of them of them meeting and making each other worse is good character writing and a good understanding of the pitfalls of unresolved mental health issues. And I wasn't expecting that out of this story at first tbh!

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Honestly all three of them tbh, maybe relationships in the future if they FIGURE THEIR SHIT OUT

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Any recs for other tops that are down bad like Taeju? I feel like this has really unlocked something for me ( ̄∇ ̄")

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Any BL recs (full color preferred) where bottom is a caretaker for a super cute kid? Think 'Dear Benjamin' or 'Low Tide in Twilight' (the little brother is adorable!!!!).

Please and thank you!

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For me it feels like manwha are more optimized when it comes to being read online, so they look good on a screen. A lot of manga scans don't look that great to me on screen, or at least not as good as physical manga looks, even with someone really putting in effort on their uploads. So I read manwhas online like 100x more.