Kimi March 18, 2021 1:14 am

I really like her, she's realistic and well written.
However, I really dislike how she keeps on thinking about her ex negatively. Like "why is he this harsh/mean?"
Hoepfully she'll realize that he's doing the best thing he can - making sure she realizes how serious everything is.

Kimi March 16, 2021 10:09 pm

This all makes so much sense!!
I originally thought that time was turned back immediately after Violet took her life, but it seems that it's Haron's will who reversed time in combination with Violet's wishes. It's nice how every single person has influence on why and how everything happened.

Kimi March 13, 2021 6:27 am

A part of me is like they deserve to die but the other part of me is saying that they're kids and should instead be given the opportunity to repent and help others because of their wrong doings (Not saying it will ever make them a good person or erase their wrongdoings, but when you do something wrong to another person you have a responsibility to help others as your "punishment"). I mean their brains haven't even fully developed yet. I don't know,, it's one of those complex issues where if they were adults I would pretty much say they deserved it but because they're kids,,, is death really what the deserve? Do they 100% deserve to die? Isn't that kind of... the easy solution??? To realize the horrors that you committed and having to live with that burden on your back as the only thing you can do is be kind and help others,, that would be the better punishment (see Jonathan Boyer, a registered sex offender who has genuinely saved hundreds of lives and lives every day repenting. It's a very confusing story in terms of how it makes you feel because of all the dialectics.)

    Moowy March 18, 2021 10:08 pm

    Yeah I totally agree. We don’t know if any of those boys would have changed in the future and positively impact others lives. Hmmm it’s not like MC can spend their time searching for an “unredeemable” target. It would be too suspicious

    Theo March 19, 2021 12:24 am

    They deserved everything that happened to them

    Neon April 23, 2021 11:57 pm

    It is one of those no right or wrong but it was dangerously close to black. MC is a human being doing the judgement, not some omnipotent being. Repentance is a continous process, too. MC has no evidence that they will not give up on doing it. MC’s mind is muddled, and he has only 24 hours to think of it. (=・ω・=)

    breakfastwithsatan April 29, 2021 1:52 am

    Tell that to the victims, repent? do good deeds? We have good people doing that, we don't need trash that gangrapes innocent girls walking around getting praised for 'changing' and living a normal life while the victims remained scarred for life. I think young kids do deserve an opportunity, it depends not he situation but these fuckers were more than aware of what they were doing and that it was bad, they enjoyed it, and they deserved what they got.

    breakfastwithsatan April 29, 2021 1:53 am

    depends on the situation*

    Neon April 29, 2021 8:24 am
    depends on the situation* breakfastwithsatan

    You’re right. At the end of the day it is the victim’s choice whether to forgive em or not. And if they ever get not forgiven then that is baggage that the perpetrator should carry, never the victim. And I’m talking about gaslighting them into forgiving them. “They reflected on it already. Just forgive em.” “He’s trying. You’re too cruel.” “Give em a chance. God gave you one.” Fuck that spiel. MC makes his judgement not as a judge but as emphatetic passerby which, I find really cool and fitting for this type of manga. If any of those gaslighter got hit on my quotations go die in a ditch (but only if you want to. Haha…unless?) ⁄(⁄ ⁄°⁄ω⁄°⁄ ⁄)⁄

    Homo"sexual" not Homo"gender" May 7, 2021 11:20 am

    Can you just stfu and tell that to the r*p3 victim in front of them(▰˘◡˘▰) it's very insulting it is for the victim that you praising the r*p!$t for "changing" (⊙…⊙ ) Don't use the excuse they're just kids and "their brains haven't fully develop", R*pe is R*pe ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ R*p!st deserve d3ath, they don't deserve opportunity ( ̄へ ̄)but Ofcourse a r*pist appologist like you cannot understand about itヾ(☆▽☆)

    Neon May 7, 2021 12:03 pm
    Can you just stfu and tell that to the r*p3 victim in front of them(▰˘◡˘▰) it's very insulting it is for the victim that you praising the r*p!$t for "changing" (⊙…⊙ ) Don't use the excuse they're ... Homo"sexual" not Homo"gender"

    Hell yeah! That’s why the juvie age should be 10 and not some number with a -teen on it. If victim says no then rapist has no chance to go on a “journey to redeem theirselves.” Fuck that. Rape should never be apologized. Its not some bandaged wound. Its burning acid. But if the victim let it be bygones its right that we respect their decision. That does not mean we should like it. I wish all rapists jump in a pit of spikes but I’m not the one who should make the final judgement. But that does not mean I never wished them to die. I also think that they should never be given an opportunity but my views might be different from the victim. Oh but if I were I’d skewer them myself (=・ω・=)

    Naiwalker June 7, 2021 8:01 pm
    Hell yeah! That’s why the juvie age should be 10 and not some number with a -teen on it. If victim says no then rapist has no chance to go on a “journey to redeem theirselves.” Fuck that. Rape should neve... Neon

    Yeah tbh your whole comment almost made me sick "they can change" "they aren't developed" that's almost the same as saying "boys will be boys" when you reach a certain age you know what is right and wrong. You're not gonna tell me they didn't know the consequences of their actions its just that they didn't care or didn't think they would get caught. It'd be one thing if they confessed to their crimes after but a majority of the time they don't. And if they do its only after being grilled to confess. Why does it need to take an interrogation to confess if you genuinely felt remorse you would fessed up after committing that crime. And "they're just kids" some kids have done horrendous murders and rapes not even being the age of a teenager and somehow they should have a second chance. whit that ideology why can't an adult have the same "chance" I mean a adult in their 20s -40s also could have 50+ years more to live to be able to "change " but no they should the forgiven right? Your so quick to forgive but even being a minor they have the chance to already get more leniency by not getting tried as adults, having lighter sentences, and not having their identity exposed to the world despite their horrendous crimes allowing them to just be able and rejoin society as if nothing had happened. This got me so heated

    Kimi June 7, 2021 8:44 pm
    Yeah tbh your whole comment almost made me sick "they can change" "they aren't developed" that's almost the same as saying "boys will be boys" when you reach a certain age you know what is right and wrong. You'... Naiwalker

    look as an actual victim of sexual assault (although i didn't realize it at the time), something i don't think i should have to tell anyone, i also know that the entire "boys will be boys culture" encouraged him to do that to me. adults have fully developed brains, they have opportunities to seek out change and have more resources to learn. once again, i do urge you to read about jonathan boyer.
    i am not saying they shouldn't be punished. i am saying that maybe murder isn't the best option, especially when it's just done by one crazy kid who isn't in the right state of mind.
    personally, i think the best thing we can do to prevent rape culture is expand more resources for education so boys learn that "being a boy" isn't about toxicity.
    i'm not saying forgive or to forget, i'm just saying that maybe killing criminals isn't always the best option for society?

    Naiwalker June 7, 2021 11:28 pm
    look as an actual victim of sexual assault (although i didn't realize it at the time), something i don't think i should have to tell anyone, i also know that the entire "boys will be boys culture" encouraged hi... Kimi

    I guess agree to disagree I as well have had more than a few things happen to me so I can't share the same idea

    Neon June 7, 2021 11:34 pm
    look as an actual victim of sexual assault (although i didn't realize it at the time), something i don't think i should have to tell anyone, i also know that the entire "boys will be boys culture" encouraged hi... Kimi

    Yup! Because if it is easy to give death as a punishment for criminals, it is just easy for the criminals and those of authority, not the victims themselves.

    And oh no! My “Insert here” means that other people are speaking! Ex. “The customer is always right” No, you’re wrong. Sorry Homo"sexual" not Homo"gender" and Naiwalker for the confusion!

    And I am no rape apologist. I am just saying that I don’t have the right to make judgement on what punishment those rapists will get. Neither all of us here. It is either the victim themselves or some sort of authority. It is out of our hands. And if we do meddle and try to control the victim’s choice then that is out of malicious intent. We are taking more control of the victim even after their rapist is behind bars. The least we can do is help them make a choice not to please us but for themselves and themselves only.

    And it is true that the way adults obsinuate responsiblity by say “boys will be boys” is infuriating. It’s a form of brainwashing or gaslighting or both, it depends. It is just plain evil and irresponsible. And if I do have some authority to announce my judgement, I’d like for them to walk on hell and back and repeat. I don’t want them to be forgiven, too. But if am allowed to make judgement I would absolutely not take any kind of apology and repentance from any of them and their side.

    The scary thing is that all are humans that got a label on each. And we can never apply this fiction logic in reality. It is only harmful. The law exists for some reason. People are still seeking justice. Especially the victims.

Kimi March 7, 2021 11:15 pm

I'm looking forward to her growing into a... functional human being. I know freshmen in high school more mature than her. I feel bad so far for everyone else in the volunteer group. She doesn't even work??? Honey,,,, please have some agency.

Kimi March 7, 2021 8:10 pm

I genuinely love Fatima. She's the embodiment of a self-assured and powerful woman. She knows what she wants and where her faults may lie and she is not afraid to seek aid or help. She's calculating and clever. She's unaware of the relationship between the Silver King and Khun, but I can tell the gears are turning in her head. I can't wait for her to learn more about both the kingdom and her peers. I know people may hate her because she wants to marry Khun (who she is under the impression is single and not seeing an engaged woman) to help her people, but I think that is utterly unfair and biased. We should be rooting for her to learn and uncover the secrets about the kingdom that lurk around, including the relationship between the Silver King and Khun. I have the feeling she can be a very powerful ally.

    malavander March 8, 2021 10:41 am

    Sorry to butt in but have you look at the raws? She is total bitch for me

    Jimin's 누나 March 8, 2021 11:12 am
    Sorry to butt in but have you look at the raws? She is total bitch for me malavander

    Can you give spoilers?

    malavander March 8, 2021 11:28 am

    okay, so


















    Fatima confessed her "love" to Khun publicly in order to corner him, literally in the middle of the palace, Khun rejected her privately to protect her honor (It would like him to answer publicly too). But even if Khun openly said he has found the woman of his life or something like that, Fatima didn't give up, she doesnt accept no as an answer #-.-) As I understand she doesn't even love him, just wants to have power and comfortable life. So she continues to play as his "lover" publicly, like hinting they are dating in the middle of the tea party, in the presence of Sienna (my king was bitter). At this point, Khun also broke Sienna's engagement (child case) and publicly courts her like sending flowers every day.
    Also, Red King is also interested in Fatima because thinks she is Khun's lover and wants to use her in order to get rid of Khun. Because Sienna didn't listen to her mom to get another fiance. So It is my guess, but the red king and Fatima can be more allies than she being a friend of Sienna ( ̄へ ̄)

    Jimin's 누나 March 8, 2021 11:40 am
    okay, soFatima confessed her "love" to Khun publicly in order to corner him, literally in the middle of the palace, Khun rejected her privately to protect her honor (It would like him to answer publicly too). B... malavander

    What a bitch.

    Thanks for the spoiler!

    malavander March 8, 2021 11:49 am
    What a bitch.Thanks for the spoiler! Jimin's 누나

    exactly, a bitch. Sienna and Khun are my fav couple after Maxi and Riftan, so I just want to enter the manga and slap her ヽ(`Д´)ノ
    you are welcome (●'◡'●)ノ

    romanticfrog March 8, 2021 3:00 pm
    exactly, a bitch. Sienna and Khun are my fav couple after Maxi and Riftan, so I just want to enter the manga and slap her ヽ(`Д´)ノyou are welcome (●'◡'●)ノ malavander

    OMG YES, Thanks for the spoilrs. Maxi and Riftan are adorable

    Kimi March 8, 2021 4:21 pm
    Sorry to butt in but have you look at the raws? She is total bitch for me malavander

    EW OMG. A powerful ally I thought,,, more like a powerful enemy. Gross. (read your spoilers below)

    malavander March 8, 2021 4:43 pm
    EW OMG. A powerful ally I thought,,, more like a powerful enemy. Gross. (read your spoilers below) Kimi

    And raws were just until the 83rd chapter. I hope someone (Khun) will deal with her before the damage is too big (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

    malavander March 8, 2021 4:53 pm

    And one interesting fact: (I don't remember exactly if it was in raws or translated version) Fatima's POV describes what are her desires and it is symbolized as a tiara. And the tiara is the same as in the cover picture of the manga (on mangago.zone too), over the head of Sienna. So it means she has her eyes on what belongs to Sienna Σ(  ̄□ ̄||)

Kimi March 7, 2021 4:28 am

Okay I love it when in stories multiple characters relevant to the plot are affected by... the main plot device. This makes a lot of sense too, if Violet was affected, why not Harron? And it makes since why he was able to actually believe Daehye, but it makes me wonder... who else was affected?

Kimi March 5, 2021 3:29 am

so right now he is still under the impression that jace is both easy and is in a romantic relationship with phil. BUT HE DOESNT EVEN LET THE MAN HE THINKS IS JACE'S LOVER BE THERE.
Yes, we all know that Phil is just a friend, but it is so wrong of the Duke to be such an asshole to Phil (and to Jace). "Oh this guy? Who (I think) is your boyfriend? Yeah he was raped and almost killed but I'm going to get mad at you for trying to see him despite me constantly shit talking him (and occasionally you). Now I'm going to jack him off to relieve him instead of asking the person who I believe to be his regular partner, right after I raped him and insulted him."
I know it's a misunderstanding, but it gets on my nerves so fucking much. I've read the Korean raws so I know what happens (vaguely, my korean is not the best) but still. reeeeeeee.

Kimi March 3, 2021 1:24 am

i miss the ghosts

    Kash March 3, 2021 11:28 am

    Yeah.... I'm kinda getting bored with only humans.....

Kimi March 3, 2021 1:19 am

HE'S A KID. HE'S 19. Not a single person in their family has escaped the curse, and all of those married into the family were tricked into it and most likely raped/murdered by the family members as beasts. Suddenly your bother, who was supposed to stay human until he was 20, but turned early for some reason, marries a stranger who willingly comes into the castle and he's miraculously human? I would be very concerned as well, and slightly mad. I would be bitter and resentful that there was an actual cure for the curse that didn't show up earlier. You guys need to stop asking for him to be physically hurt and just wish for him to take some time to get to a calm place where he's able to listen and grow.

    wendying March 3, 2021 1:23 am

    19 is young but definitely not a kid!

    Suck-it.Bruh;) March 3, 2021 2:05 am
    19 is young but definitely not a kid! wendying

    The thing is he’s immature and was rude and when you see the difference in how he and the duchess act despite being the same age. The duchess is responsible and many seem to praise her for her great deeds. He just seems like a trouble maker.

    Suck-it.Bruh;) March 3, 2021 2:06 am
    The thing is he’s immature and was rude and when you see the difference in how he and the duchess act despite being the same age. The duchess is responsible and many seem to praise her for her great deeds. He... Suck-it.Bruh;)

    Because yes 19 is very young. But with first impressions with him he was acting like a kid.

    jungkookmyhubby March 3, 2021 2:36 am
    The thing is he’s immature and was rude and when you see the difference in how he and the duchess act despite being the same age. The duchess is responsible and many seem to praise her for her great deeds. He... Suck-it.Bruh;)

    you can't really compare him to the duchess tho bc she literally had the mentality of an adult since birth sooo..

    Suck-it.Bruh;) March 3, 2021 2:38 am
    you can't really compare him to the duchess tho bc she literally had the mentality of an adult since birth sooo.. jungkookmyhubby

    Oh I forgot she reincarnated but that doesn’t change the fact he’s immature

    jungkookmyhubby March 3, 2021 3:55 am
    Oh I forgot she reincarnated but that doesn’t change the fact he’s immature Suck-it.Bruh;)

    yeah ik

    Kimi March 3, 2021 3:59 am
    The thing is he’s immature and was rude and when you see the difference in how he and the duchess act despite being the same age. The duchess is responsible and many seem to praise her for her great deeds. He... Suck-it.Bruh;)

    because he thinks that a woman who knowingly marries into a cursed family only to be the first to cure a cursed person in centuries is suspicious?
    also considering he's mad that he was never messaged once the curse was lifted (for the very first time in history by an unknown woman)

    wendying March 3, 2021 5:27 am
    The thing is he’s immature and was rude and when you see the difference in how he and the duchess act despite being the same age. The duchess is responsible and many seem to praise her for her great deeds. He... Suck-it.Bruh;)

    immature? yes. but a him being referred to as a kid? no.

    Shortchescak March 3, 2021 6:14 am
    because he thinks that a woman who knowingly marries into a cursed family only to be the first to cure a cursed person in centuries is suspicious? also considering he's mad that he was never messaged once the c... Kimi

    He has every right to be suspicious but he shouldn't curse someone out before even meeting them. On that point, he should already know better than to be so prejudiced.

    mmm.corp March 3, 2021 3:08 pm

    The duchess is also 19 and the mfs made her marry and have a child smh. Double standards much.

    Skim March 3, 2021 4:50 pm
    The duchess is also 19 and the mfs made her marry and have a child smh. Double standards much. mmm.corp

    I know. Besides he was supposedly in the area, but didn't even visit his supposed close cousin for almost a year? Even if his cousin turned to a monster, at least check up on him and maybe look for a cure or info about the curse... Like wow...then he even complains that his cousin didn't leave the fortune to him....double wow....smh...

    ashH March 4, 2021 6:53 am
    I know. Besides he was supposedly in the area, but didn't even visit his supposed close cousin for almost a year? Even if his cousin turned to a monster, at least check up on him and maybe look for a cure or in... Skim

    uhm but he said he did visit (and ran off cus he saw a monster in the cage) and also if i were in his position i probably would have given up too, after all this curse has been in his family for hundreds of years and NO ONE has been cured before him. Thats a really hopeless situation to be in.

    im also pretty sure that him asking why thereode didn't leave his fortune to him is a joke. they seem to be pretty close so i really don't think he was being serious with that remark

    Skim March 4, 2021 8:08 pm
    uhm but he said he did visit (and ran off cus he saw a monster in the cage) and also if i were in his position i probably would have given up too, after all this curse has been in his family for hundreds of yea... ashH

    Didn't seem like he was joking about the fortune because even the ML said the curse was so abrupt that he didn't have time.
    Even though he came and ran away, he could've at least visited the manor to find out what was going on...maybe then the ML wouldn't have been hoodwinked by so many of his supposed supporters...

Kimi March 2, 2021 7:59 am

"Let's not use a Japanese-sounding name"
"Tsukina"
Ah yes, the phonetic name with the sound "tsu" in it doesn't sound japanese at all. So many languages developed names and alphabets like that.
I'm sobbing.

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