Visenya April 29, 2025 9:55 pm

i dont rly care about non con that much but its always disappointing when its like decent art and the story could be good if the girl was also into it
i need more women that are like down to fuck man i get so tired of it just being non consensual and her just being like "this feels so good but i dont want this..!" WHERE ARE THE GIRLS WHO LIKE TO FUCK WE ARE IN A RECESSION OF PROUD SLUTS

Visenya April 28, 2025 8:46 pm

damn theres 37 chapters of this now so anyway if anyones looking to get into this thinking he might have a redemption arc or anything im just here to tell u he never gets better :) this is the only story that genuinely pissed me off because of how awful the male lead is throughout the entire story :) i don't think it even deserves the romance tag and i had to double check that it even had it to begin with when i read the ending

Visenya April 28, 2025 7:00 pm

i was kinda hoping for a silver fox ml but hes cute ill give him a pass

Visenya April 28, 2025 5:11 pm

my bi king go off!!!

Visenya April 28, 2025 3:46 pm

a fl lead who will actually kill people??? lord im in love i need more of this

Visenya April 28, 2025 5:18 am

yall hate women so much if she lied u guys would be upset she caused misunderstandings between them and if she tells the truth shes a bitch for outing his secrets
not like the author clearly just wanted a short story so it fits the plot to have her streamline their relationship but w/e

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 5:26 am

    "Yall hate woman" is a crazy reach and mind you, the majority of people reading this are woman. God forbid a mf isnt keen on the actions a CHARACTER has taken. Regardless of gender, find a better argument next time.

    andy April 28, 2025 5:26 am

    RIGHT

    Liliesmz April 28, 2025 5:38 am
    "Yall hate woman" is a crazy reach and mind you, the majority of people reading this are woman. God forbid a mf isnt keen on the actions a CHARACTER has taken. Regardless of gender, find a better argument next... Cheesiness

    It's crazy but you underestimate how unserious and misogynistic fujos can be. You can definitely be a woman and hate women. Both of your arguments are lacking

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 5:42 am
    It's crazy but you underestimate how unserious and misogynistic fujos can be. You can definitely be a woman and hate women. Both of your arguments are lacking Liliesmz

    And you're saying that as if that's the majority.
    Not every person who reads BL is a misogynist

    Visenya April 28, 2025 5:44 am
    And you're saying that as if that's the majority. Not every person who reads BL is a misogynist Cheesiness

    girl u wanna be a victim so bad u shadow boxing with arguments i never even said
    and if the shoe doesnt fit why u over here shoving it on you

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 5:46 am
    girl u wanna be a victim so bad u shadow boxing with arguments i never even saidand if the shoe doesnt fit why u over here shoving it on you Visenya

    Girl what? I literally put what you said in quotation marks, "yall hate womab" yo ahh suffering from memory loss?

    Visenya April 28, 2025 5:46 am
    Girl what? I literally put what you said in quotation marks, "yall hate womab" yo ahh suffering from memory loss? Cheesiness

    did u get scared mid sentence

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 5:47 am
    did u get scared mid sentence Visenya

    Happy 12th Birthday

    Turnip April 28, 2025 5:47 am
    It's crazy but you underestimate how unserious and misogynistic fujos can be. You can definitely be a woman and hate women. Both of your arguments are lacking Liliesmz

    This for real!!
    If she isn't like a stand in for the fujo audience (yk someone to gawk and fangirl just like they do) they always find a reason to hate
    To be fair, I think it's valid to dislike that she shared a secret that wasn't hers to tell, but you're definitely right about the internalized (and loudly externalized) misogyny in most of the bl spaces.

    Visenya April 28, 2025 5:49 am
    Happy 12th Birthday Cheesiness

    ur the one censoring urself brother u can type ass they arent gonna stop u tiktok teens forgot not every semi curse word is blocked

    Turnip April 28, 2025 5:49 am
    This for real!! If she isn't like a stand in for the fujo audience (yk someone to gawk and fangirl just like they do) they always find a reason to hate To be fair, I think it's valid to dislike that she shared ... Turnip

    (also mb, didn't realize you two were still actively beefin)

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 5:49 am
    ur the one censoring urself brother u can type ass they arent gonna stop u tiktok teens forgot not every semi curse word is blocked Visenya

    "TikTok Teens" Pot calling the kettle black

    Visenya April 28, 2025 5:53 am
    This for real!! If she isn't like a stand in for the fujo audience (yk someone to gawk and fangirl just like they do) they always find a reason to hate To be fair, I think it's valid to dislike that she shared ... Turnip

    ya i wasnt really going for a completely sound argument just annoying that any time a woman is shown in bl ppl find reasons to shit on her. like come on man the focal point doesnt have to be roasting her over the fucking fire cus she knows her friend is interested in the guy so she set him up to easily get with him. if it was a guy wingman i guarantee the hate would be halved at least.

    Visenya April 28, 2025 6:00 am
    (also mb, didn't realize you two were still actively beefin) Turnip

    i usually ignore the ppl who wanna act like misogyny isnt alive and well in this scene cus its like as a woman who's been a fujo for the past like 15 years ive seen a lottt of comments about how women dont belong in these spaces/we're fetishists or just overall are hostile to women when theyre around and its like insane to see people act like it doesnt still happen. if anything i feel like theres been a resurgence of shitty gatekeeping lately and sometimes i gotta at least attempt to open their eyes to whats going on

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 6:07 am
    i usually ignore the ppl who wanna act like misogyny isnt alive and well in this scene cus its like as a woman who's been a fujo for the past like 15 years ive seen a lottt of comments about how women dont belo... Visenya

    Yeah your argument definitely wasn't sound and bring your devil's advocate mentality somewhere with meaning. This is obvious not a case of misogyny. A person who happened to be a woman made a choice that others didn't find pleasing. Rightfully so, but it seems as if you're the type to tell your best friend's secret without asking them first so I'm not surprised. But since this BL is just for the smut, ain't even that serious. Yall just be chatting sometimes. Can't even dislike a character's actions around you people anymore

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 6:08 am
    i usually ignore the ppl who wanna act like misogyny isnt alive and well in this scene cus its like as a woman who's been a fujo for the past like 15 years ive seen a lottt of comments about how women dont belo... Visenya

    Yeah your argument definitely wasn't sound and bring your devil's advocate mentality somewhere with meaning. This is obviously not a case of misogyny that you're "speaking up against" . A person who happened to be a woman made a choice that others didn't find pleasing. Rightfully so, but it seems as if you're the type to tell your best friend's secret without asking them first so I'm not surprised. But since this BL is just for the smut, ain't even that serious. Yall just be chatting sometimes. Can't even dislike a character's actions around you people anymore

    Visenya April 28, 2025 6:09 am
    Yeah your argument definitely wasn't sound and bring your devil's advocate mentality somewhere with meaning. This is obvious not a case of misogyny. A person who happened to be a woman made a choice that others... Cheesiness

    yeah im definitely taking ur personal attacks seriously you should make more of them

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 6:12 am
    yeah im definitely taking ur personal attacks seriously you should make more of them Visenya

    "Personal attacks" read my comment aloud next time

    Visenya April 28, 2025 6:14 am
    Yeah your argument definitely wasn't sound and bring your devil's advocate mentality somewhere with meaning. This is obviously not a case of misogyny that you're "speaking up against" . A person who happened to... Cheesiness

    i was just gonna go to bed and ignore this but im giggling cus its like o shit misogyny has been erased because detective cheesiness investigated the case and found the yaoi community not guilty so i guess we've defeated misogyny and gotten it out of the community
    keep up the good work officer the streets are safe with you around o7

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 6:22 am
    i was just gonna go to bed and ignore this but im giggling cus its like o shit misogyny has been erased because detective cheesiness investigated the case and found the yaoi community not guilty so i guess we'v... Visenya

    Chile, you are in way too deep. "The yaoi community is guilty of misogyny" but mind you, we're just people not liking that the ML's friend told some guy his secret. In real life you'd be crucified just the same. Why even bring the crimes of the whole community on something that definitely deserves a bit of distaste? But yeah, you DEFINITELY need to go to bed.

    wi wi wi April 28, 2025 6:25 am

    I would still hate this kind of character if he was a man, lol. I read two stories in which the male friends were annoying and not a friend friend and I commented about them.

    Liliesmz April 28, 2025 6:27 am
    And you're saying that as if that's the majority. Not every person who reads BL is a misogynist Cheesiness

    1) I didn't say that the majority is misogynistic, please stop projecting. I'm myself a fujo and I know we're not all misogynistic I already agreed with you on that their initial comment was crazy (very poorly worded) so no need to remain hostile which just alters the conversation 2) Fujos spaces tend to cultivate misogyny, wether BL fans are women or not has little to do with it. BL tend to sideline and vilify women, so BL readers take the habit of not empathizing with women hence hate them more. Many fujos don't bother thinking critically when it's a woman's action, they don't care about why she does what she does etc... so their initial comment was lacking. And your comment saying "you can't tell a woman they're being misogynistic" also is lacking.

    Liliesmz April 28, 2025 6:50 am
    I would still hate this kind of character if he was a man, lol. I read two stories in which the male friends were annoying and not a friend friend and I commented about them. wi wi wi

    I think she was being a friend friend tho. It's a specific dynamic, not some general "this is what friendship should be" model. She knows Arim's boundaries because she's such a good friend, and helped him get what he so desperately wanted. She's not really exposing his secret to a random stranger. It's the whole "confident friend helping shy socially anxious MC gets his crush", knowing someone so well that you can sometimes act on their behalf in risky ways because you know they want it but can't do it themselves. The manhwa exagerrated it all for drama and edginess bc it keeps the audience talking and engaged. Anyways it's smut so the characters are heightened and all a bit crazy. She's like the least weird of the three.

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 6:55 am
    1) I didn't say that the majority is misogynistic, please stop projecting. I'm myself a fujo and I know we're not all misogynistic I already agreed with you on that their initial comment was crazy (very poorly ... Liliesmz

    I don't think you know what projecting means but anyways that's what you made it seem like. Especially when the initial comment starts with "Yall hate woman" as a general statement. And most woman here aren't misogynistic simply because they don't like the actions of a certain character. I don't know why you decided to bring up the problem fujos and whatever argument you tried to make about them. It just doesn't make sense in the context that people are just mad at a bad decision. And you definitely worded your last statement horribly. And it's funny how you say you didn't say a certain thing but then butchering everything I said. Not once did I utter "You can't tell a woman they're being misogynistic" so let's re-read my comment again. I simply stated that the majority people who read this are woman who aren't misogynistic simply because they don't like a character's action.

    ⭐Salvation⭐ April 28, 2025 7:02 am

    bruh we didnt want her to lie, she could had just left and dropped some hints why the fuck would she expose his secret which only she is pry to

    Liliesmz April 28, 2025 7:11 am
    I don't think you know what projecting means but anyways that's what you made it seem like. Especially when the initial comment starts with "Yall hate woman" as a general statement. And most woman here aren't m... Cheesiness

    You've put strong emphasis on gender: "mind you, the majority of people reading this are woman.", and the wording was off then if you didn't mean it as "don't tell women they're being misogynistic". Anyways, my point wasn't that everyone who dislikes her is a misogynist, but that there's heavy internalized misogyny in BL spaces that leads to female characters being hated disproportionately differently than a male one. And her action wasn't a bad decision by most standards 1) Arim got his crush 2) we got quick smut scenes. Her actions were just propelling the plot forward. Y'all dislike her, fairly, because you're projecting your own ideas of what "friendship" should look like onto this fictional situation. But Arim isn't you, and that girl isn't your friend so this isn't tailored to fit your preferences.

    wi wi wi April 28, 2025 7:14 am
    I think she was being a friend friend tho. It's a specific dynamic, not some general "this is what friendship should be" model. She knows Arim's boundaries because she's such a good friend, and helped him get w... Liliesmz

    Not a random stranger? But she barely knows him. I agree with you on the other parts but he is a stranger. We know he isn't lying but what he was a red flag and used this info to blackmail him? I loved her before she exposed his secret. She could've just dropped some hints but okay.

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 7:22 am
    You've put strong emphasis on gender: "mind you, the majority of people reading this are woman.", and the wording was off then if you didn't mean it as "don't tell women they're being misogynistic". Anyways, my... Liliesmz

    The wording was definitely not off, those are two completely different sentences with different meanings. Also, the action of telling your friend's secret without consulting them is not good in general. You're just not understanding, I fear. The people here just dislike the idea of someone telling their secret to some crush and she did exactly that. The plot is horrid and this is a smut BL, ain't nobody taking it that seriously. Everyone knows it's fictional by the way So bringing up misogynisy when actively knowing that the character made a questionable decision that many wouldn't like, that's also just used to move things along and cause activity is wicked work. But to each their own.

    ⭐Salvation⭐ April 28, 2025 7:27 am
    You've put strong emphasis on gender: "mind you, the majority of people reading this are woman.", and the wording was off then if you didn't mean it as "don't tell women they're being misogynistic". Anyways, my... Liliesmz

    in this case, the problem wasnt her gender but rather her exposing the secret, if she were a man, pretty sure he would had gotten the same amount of hate, while i do agree misogyny is a prevalent problem in yaoi as women are usually potrayed as annoying people who get in between mlm relationships or ex that stir trouble for no reason,, this was not such a case.
    you bringing 'misogyny' just to defend her, that oh you are a misogynyst if you hate her is dumb.
    we are not projecting 'ideas of friendship' but rather aware that exposing a secret is shitty and that its not an idea but a standard for friendships. while I do agree her function in this story was to push forward the plot but that doesnt change the fact that her actions were bad.

    kstar45981 April 28, 2025 8:41 am

    literally its so juvenile LOL like its not that serious for people to keep saying she failed as a best friend and i truly feel like ML had a right to know! if you can look into my thoughts *AND* tell them to your friend, i have the right to know you can even do the shit in the first place! plus it was genuinely just the equivalent of your best friend telling your crush you like them idk why all these people are so fake mad LOLOLOL

    wi wi wi April 28, 2025 8:50 am
    in this case, the problem wasnt her gender but rather her exposing the secret, if she were a man, pretty sure he would had gotten the same amount of hate, while i do agree misogyny is a prevalent problem in yao... ⭐Salvation⭐

    Exactly!

    Visenya April 28, 2025 11:24 am
    Chile, you are in way too deep. "The yaoi community is guilty of misogyny" but mind you, we're just people not liking that the ML's friend told some guy his secret. In real life you'd be crucified just the same... Cheesiness

    hey i get it man i remember being 15 one time too, its easier to ignore a problem than to admit there is one

    Cheesiness April 28, 2025 2:30 pm
    hey i get it man i remember being 15 one time too, its easier to ignore a problem than to admit there is one Visenya

    Should've known by the way you type that you wouldn't be able to comprehend a single sentence. A real shame.

Visenya April 27, 2025 7:49 pm

i usually hate stories built on miscommunication but idk something about this one just hits
maybe i just love when women are indifferent to men and the men have to fight their ways back into their lives lmao
also i just really like the fl.. shes so cool...

    SeiunKaze April 27, 2025 8:42 pm

    Maybe this hits different because it's not so much miss communicstion in begin, and know the fixing will no doubt have miss understanding because they don't know anything about each other

Visenya April 27, 2025 7:24 pm

bro.. holy fuck man .. i usually stick to femdom smut cus its usually better than the male dominant stuff but this.. this is a treasure.. my beloved switch couple

Visenya April 27, 2025 9:11 am

i regret ever thinking the ex wasnt a piece of shit i had hope that he was gonna have a somewhat valid backstory but every chapter hes just revealed to be a fucking loser

Visenya April 25, 2025 11:52 pm

oh my god... realization time..?

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