The thing with consent, it can be taken back at anytime. So even if they agreed beforehand but if someone says no in the middle, you listen and full stop. Richard DID grape her.
Now, it's up to reader discretion if they want to "forgive" Richard or not. Or be disgusted and drop the manhwa.
I personally am on the fence, mostly because this is such a morally grey area??? Like I understand that he is a virgin and is very enthusiastic about finally finding (manipulate) someone who matches his freak,,, but he's the more informed out of the 2 of them. He's read the BDSM books (he even recommended them to her), he knows about consent, he knows about safe words, He knew his dick was too big he should have stopped her from shoving it in the moment he thought it was dangerous. But we all knew he has only been after his selfish desires and satisfaction. He rarely ever considers Courtney's feelings and pace.
But I kind of see that he got lost in the sauce. there is such a thing as Dom/Sub space that people can accidentally fall into when they are so into the bdsm play. But again Richard and Courtney are both virgins and you can still argue that no matter how much information they read about it, they're still both so ill equipped.
While I am very disappointed and up that there's grape in my femdom, but I think the author knows what they're doing So I'm still gonna give her the benefit of doubt. Plus I walked in here expecting such (although we really don't deserve/shouldn't
get used to it in our media) and this is free so,,
So please be kind and respectful to each other in the topics section.
I say "forgive" with heavy on quotation marks because we really shouldn't be complacent with seeing noncon in our stories. But I am also saying don't go attack the author just yet. Let her cook with the narrative so far.
I just hope that Richard gets REAL consequences to his actions. No not sexy fun time consequences. Courtney you better stand your ground!!!
I had to come find your comment after your reply to me & I didn’t even realize mine was right after yours because if I would have saw it I wouldn’t have had to write mine, lol.
I would have just put AGREED & kept it pushing. But I do want to say if your on the fence about than you should definitely go off the next chapter after this one. & I say that to everyone! How he responds to this is going to be the most important part & will determine whether the author truly meant for this to be a rape scene or not. Like I said it would be very on brand for the prince to be apologetic & if he’s not or they just gloss over it then I’ll even consider dropping this manga myself! I saw someone say she going to beat his ass for this— & though it would be really funny to see that I kind of hope they don’t & will make this a boundary lesson or something like that!
frfr.
we need more context and see where this goes.
and dont worry! its nice to see open discussion about something so sensitive. Its ok to like something and still be critical but respectful at the same time. I normally just turn off my brain when i read erotica. but it was just sad to see a lot of name calling in some of the comments from both sides of the coin and couldnt help but yap. hahah
I also dont want to come off as preachy. I'm sorry if i did.
Idk how to feel about this.... On one hand it's cute? Her living her bisexual truth was so camp. But man the age gaps is so disturbing??? The crown prince calling mars uncle doesn't help the pedo allegations after stealing 2 kisses when she was 5.
And my god will men in smutty josei, stop assaulting their partners in a jealous rage?
Can't they just remain all her lovers? It's so hard to choose. Her chemistry with the boys are so good. And I can also see how the boys's friendships can work out in an arrangement.
But man, even with all the love they shower on her, isn't it so lonely not being able to remember anything and not knowing who you are? All these people telling you who you are in their eyes and who you are to them. They're in love with you, so they've only seen you with rose-coloured glasses but is this idealised version of you,,, really you?
Wow if this wasn't really cutesy and romantic, this would be a psychological horror. Love it.
Jokes aside. I just wanna point out a lil cute detail I noticed, cause I was rereading from chapter 20. , the more the Prince "antagonizes" her to debauchery the more she adopts his colors (and vice versa). She wears pastel yellow dresses that matches his hair. While he wears black to match her hair. And I'd like to think that despite her inner turmoil, she's slowly awakening (more like surrendering) to him. Hahaha
It's also pretty fascinating cause in the beginning, she wears mostly very light pastels,,, almost white dresses (cause she's pure and vanilla) and while he's introduced through the narrative in all black (wink wink). And when they first meet each other, they're both in white but the black accents of the Prince's clothes (the collar of his shirt, the cuffs of his sleeves) hint at his deviant darker tastes and hidden agenda.
Aaaahhh love it when author and artists are intentional like that.
But also this is just a color theory. Hahahahah
IM KICKING AND SCREAMING AAAAAHHHH
MY HEARTTTTTT THEY KISSSED
Idk man, I kinda like how warm and gentle it is. I think the author (I read the novel) and the artist did a good job portraying that warm tingly feelings of 2 puzzle pieces finally falling into place. It fits their childhood friends to lovers story and it's certainly cute, warm and cozy and soooo refreshing after the intense crazy of the last few chapters.Hahahaha plus they're teens in love, with an added bonus of Tia still being hesitant on pursuing their relationship. They cant just go all out with a make out session right of the bat. As much as Perez obviously wants too, but he's respectful and still cares about Tia's boundaries.
Althoughhhh.... I can kind of understand where you're coming from??? We've been waiting for them to FINALLY act on their feelings...
But unfortunately....MINOR SPOILER !! We still have such a long way to go before they're gonna confirm that they together together.
It's gonna be a really slowburn. But rest assured Perez is officially courting Tia now. With a lil bit of miscommunication cause yknow teenagers.
When I say I want a playful partner, this is what I mean fun harmless pranks that don't hurt anyone.... Except for the evil sister and ex.
Cute banter and jokes but never making hurtful jabs at anyone's expense. Arghhhh, even my sapphic ass needs an oscar.