another plotless fluff, im so tired...i need these authors to write actual plot and actual personalities
bro its not that serious, im just expressing my personal dissatisfaction with these types of stories. Maybe you take a seat and think that some people want to read fiction with developed plots and complex characters.
and i dont want hear about "stealing" from someone who uses this site too.
also unlike most of yall, i actually buy manga and support authors when i can, but im not going to buy a manga unless i know its really good first.
(also a lot of manga dont have official english translations)
The comment you’re replying to knows that they’re on a site which steals, obviously. They’re telling you that you have no place to complain when you’re also here. They never excluded themselves from the mix. Saying you buy mangas in real life, too doesn’t make you a saint and quite frankly no one cares if you do. I buy mangas in real life and support the author but what good does that do for me if I’m still on this site and so are you so what was the point in bringing that up? The problem is that you’re expressing and projecting that personal dissatisfaction onto the author of this and saying the author and people who write endless fluff need to “write actual plot” for your enjoyment because you can’t see how others could ever like fluff with nothing else. Reading is fundamental.
I felt like i wasted my time, so in the spur of the moment i left a comment motivated by my dissatisfaction. Different opinions are allowed to be expressed, THAT is common sense.
I like very...SPECIFIC types of stories, but i do try other types from time to time, sometimes i like it, sometimes i dont, but i can express an opinion ether way.
omfg...
the other person bringing up reading on an illegal site as argument point was nonsensical to begin with. Reading a story illegally doesnt somehow nullify the right to give an opinion on said story contents.
I never thought they excused themselves from the mix, i just thought the comment was pretty tone deaf. (people complain and give opinions about stories on here all the time and they are entitled to do so. On top of that this is an illegal site for crying out loud).
I mentioned that i buy manga (and quite selectively so) because i wanted to highlight that i take my reading quite seriously, hence my frustration when i waste my time on stories that seem initially interesting to me but turn out not so.
I left a spur of the moment wishful thinking comment on an illegal site, youre acting like im going to these authors socials and demanding from them to write a good plot lol.
Like gtfo with this bullshit, this whole argument is so stupid.
reading is fundamental, but comprehension is key.
“ur so demanding and judgmental of authors who you literally are stealing from.” Is a perfect reply to; “i need these authors to write actual plot and actual personalities”. Because, yes, you are stealing from them. No one said you shouldn’t have an opinion on a story just because you stole it, we’re saying your opinion is you complaining that they aren’t catering to your tastes. That’s like leaving a review in a story that you didn’t know was comedic, reading it to the end, and then saying these authors need to have action and drama and stop writing endless comedy for your enjoyment as if that genre and style wasn’t their goal. The whole point of reading is to find what you like. It’s a public comment section so of course you can voice your opinion but when it’s a complaint don’t expect others to not respond, either. I agree, this argument is pointless and so is your original comment. I’m just saying what I said earlier because apparently comprehension aint doin you one step better than you said it was doing me.
How is it a perfect reply when one has nothing to do with the other?
Besides, as i initially said, it wasnt that serious, i dont actually expect anything out of these authors, i was just using sarcasm as literary device to convey my frustration in lack of good writing.
"No one said you shouldn’t have an opinion on a story just because you stole it" The other person mentioning that im "stealing" (in the context of the comment) literally connotes that i have no right to voice a negative opinion on the story...because i stole it. Which again, one has nothing to do with the other, thats why i said it was a nonsensical argumentative point.
"we’re saying your opinion is you complaining that they aren’t catering to your tastes." YOU are saying that, the other person made no mention or implication that it had anything to do with that.The other persons comment was criticism of me being judgmental aka having an opinion on work im "stealing". (in order to fit your narrative, they are going to need to write a whole other comment).
Some comedies are full of action and drama, some are...less creative to say it nicely. If i read a comedy that i think would have greatly benefited from more action and drama i can express that. If the intention was to be basic, i can criticize that too. On the same note, im not criticizing this story or similar stories for being "fluffy". I dont detest "fluff", i detest lazy writing.
The only thing that is apparent here regarding comprehension (or lack thereof to be precise) is that the call is coming from inside the house.
It seems from what you said that you have issues with the first commenter rather than with me. You were hypocritical in the beginning to them so maybe that’s why I replied and said “we” because the pot was calling the kettle black. You're right; I should emphasize "I" rather than "we" in this. “I like very...SPECIFIC types of stories, but i do try other types from time to time, sometimes i like it, sometimes i dont, but i can express an opinion ether way.” It's true that someone can voice their opinion, but the saying is still “agree to disagree”. While I’m arguing with the way you phrased it, I understand your opinion where the novel lacks a storyline and that's why you don't like it. Your phrasing is primarily "my" issue. “i need these authors to write actual plot and actual personalities” comes off as wanting specific authors to conform to your preferences all because you couldn’t find what you were looking for in this story. In your most recent comment, you said that you found this to be lazy writing, which I can accept, but I disagree with. I can't stress enough how your wording makes it sound like you're trying to be demanding of something you obviously couldn't find in this story and ended up bashing the authors for it and the people who found it intriguing. I know you said that was sarcasm, but this didn't seem like it. If I misconstrued it, then I’m sorry. It’s not something consequential
yes i do have an issue with what the first commenter said, clearly.
but i also have an issue with your original comment. (and i have already previously addressed the issue i have with it)
also how was i being hypocritical towards the first commenter? do elaborate.
"Your phrasing is primarily "my" issue"
i find it interesting that you say this now, because your original comment/reply to me made no indication of such.
"In your most recent comment, you said that you found this to be lazy writing, which I can accept, but I disagree with."
My favorite category in manga is seinen, idk what your favorite category is, but its probably not that. So naturally we have different opinions and views when it comes to what good writing entails and thats perfectly ok.
I understand the issue you have with my phrasing, or more accurately, i understand the way you miscomprehended my words, but honestly, when i wrote that comment i didnt expect people to take it so literally.
“That’s why we read things we like and then don’t complain in the end when you read smthn you don’t like because it’s not your cup of tea lol don’t read it in the first place.” Was my reply to you saying “i need these authors to write actual plot and actual personalities”. You read it, figured out it was brainless fluff, and said you wanted an actual plot with real personalities. At that time, you didn’t say that you didn’t know about the tags and so on so I assumed that you knew somewhat of what you were getting into when you started reading this. My original comment doesn’t address that your phrasing is my issue but it’s heavily obvious that “I need these authors…” is the reason why I replied and is the only thing I’m replying to.
“Maybe take a seat and think that we don't want realistic mangas and just want straight cotton candy.” which you replied with “im just expressing my personal dissatisfaction with these types of stories. Maybe you take a seat and think that some people want to read fiction with developed plots and complex characters.” is what made me start replying in “we”.
This has gone on for a hot minute so I’m just gonna stop replying. If you want to keep typing there’s no one stopping you
at the end of the day this story and its characters were not interesting (to me), i have no reason to be happy if i feel like i wasted my time.
(and btw i have no issue with stories that have communication problems, rape- thats not romanticized or huge plot twists...as long as the story is well written and these aspects serve a meaningful purpose that is.)
let me clarify:
you said i should be happy because this story doesn't have communication issues or rape, im saying thats not a reason for me to be happy because at the end of the day i did not find this story to be "good"
subjects like rape or communication issues dont determine if a story is good or bad, its how a story is written that matters, thats all.
So uhmm HAHAHA I stalked jojo and I think I know why they think that this manga is plotless skskkssksk If I'm not wrong, they are more into heavy(??) plots or somthin??idk.. So I think that's why...but this manga is for casual readers. No heavy drama whatsoever...the problem is, if you don't like the manga, just say so. It's okay to share your opinion (cuz tbh me too, I can't help to share my opinion. Just like now.. ( :゚皿゚). But, no need to say something like about what the author should make or what (it's kinda mean T^T) i think thats the only problem.
the tags literally dont give any indication about wether the plot will be engaging or not, how was i supposed to know the story would be boring af? and not just in plot, but in character writing as well.
and never ending misunderstandings is a lazy plot device authors use to create easy drama, i dont find that type of writing interesting, because its really not, so no, i will not be going to read manhwa like that lol.
and if you think that me leaving a comment is "dropping negative energy everywhere" then thats on you. im allowed to speak my opinions on media i have consumed, its your choice wether you let my opinions effect you or not.
ofc the tag don't give you a whole story but in this manga the tag is just only romance/yaoi and school background that has only 7 chapter. What are you really expecting? You said it's boring af but it brings you till the end. How can you read I respect you for that cuz I can't read till the end if a story is boring af.
This is not my first time seeing bad review under a story that I think good. I've seen many people writing bad review under the story I like but I have never write this kind of comment cuz most of them are like that has so many chapters or story that they have been reading since ongoing but at the end the story isn't that good for them after using their time. I'm not that kinda person who is fighting around on the online but I can't help relying when I see your comment cuz your opinion is stupid under school romance manga that has 7 chapters.
Pls give me a recommendation with the tag romance/ yaoi. I really want to know your standard.
this manga is just labeled as romance and yaoi, and there are plenty of stories i enjoyed in the past that just had "basic" labels.
something that comes to mind is old fashioned cupcake- its labeled as yaoi/ romance/ slice of life.
its around 10 chapters long and i really enjoyed it because of the way it was written, and thats despite the genre not being "exciting" like action or drama.
but im not going to go through all my reading lists just to find you more examples, if you are so curious you can go through my profile yourself lol.
i read this story and left a negative review, you make it sound like its unfair of me to judge this story because of its length and setting when in reality the setting and or length of a story has nothing to do with its quality.
I didn't mean a story can define by it's length or the tag I said that cuz you said plotless I just don't have any idea why you said like that and what plot are you expecting.anyway I got it now we really have absolutely opposite taste that old fashioned cupcake is the manga I drop cuz it's boring af okay I won't fight with you anymore after this but let me say this.for me that manga is really boring af yk I don't remember that much but that manga doesn't have plot either(it's hard for me to define which story is plotless but since you said this story is plotless I think that manga is plotless for me) like that author always do( there's another plotless work by that author but I think the art is good) and I don't think that manga would have any development either (but I didn't drop like this kinda comment under that story ) but now I said like this to your manga so I'm sorry for all of my reply bye bye.
Wow this is the longest comment thread I've ever seen on here lmaooo and to op, I understand that this isn't your cup of tea but bl these days is absolutely packed with extremely problematic tropes that normalise a lot of things that shouldn't be normalised so people just find a lot of comfort in leaving reality behind for a while and enjoying plotless fluff.
You're right, you are very much entitled to your own opinion on that so this is more of an etiquette thing than a moral thing. It just ruins a lot of the fun seeing someone be really negative about something as innocent as this is all, so you aren't doing anything inherently wrong but you cant expect people to not get upset when you put a damper on their fun lol.
Negative opinions should absolutely be expressed especially on genuinely problematic works, but for something as simple as this you couldve quietly given it a low rating and moved on to find something you like better. Again you're fully allowed to dislike it for being basic and boring, but don't expect people who love simple fun like this to not be upset by you hating on it is all! Not everything has to be a groundbreakingly profound or even an extremely interesting story in order for it to be valuable and appreciated!
the story being "simple" and "innocent" doesn't mean it negates criticism tho.
after all, the subject matter of a story doesnt determine if its well written or not.
bl is packed with problematic shit that i hate, but i dont find plotless fluff as the needed alternative.
i find plotless fluff frustrating, its just lazy writing and lost potential.
(and im not a fluff hater, our sunny days is super fluffy and i love it)
i obviously dont expect people who like this type of work to like my opinion lol, but this is a subject that i feel strongly about which is why i couldnt just quietly give it a low rating and move on.
but yeah, i never expected this thread to get so long lol
wow this shit is ass
i thought it would be at least promising because of all the positive comments, but its just boring and kind of cringe, but i guess that my fault for thinking something with "omega" in the title could ever be good
edit: the dislikes lmao, i get it, yall like cute art and blond twinks
For an omegaverse, it’s pretty unique in terms of setting and being a slow burn. It’s got a (somewhat) tense plot outside of a typical romance and it not being just a total smutfest, and it’s also not reliant on a lot of omegaverse tropes you see in the genre. The art style is quite good and the uke is a cute blonde boy. So I think that’s why it’s popular. But I have to admit there’s always some inherent cringe to omegaverse lol, so I understand where you’re coming from
this author actually sucks, but yall will never admit that...
you're very aware of yourself but you just simply suck and boring. gtfo here
*you aren't very aware
Pstt im on your side but dont tell those mangago users that cant accept different opinions.
Fr tho i never vibe with sign but decide to give myself a chance with his new work because fomo and i quite like it at first, it was fun and interesting but now idk the plot is going nowhere
They hated him cause he spoke the truth
You’re right, I’m fine with porn and no plot but this is such a waste of a premise. The semblance of a plot hurts more.
BRUH LMAO some of y’all act so strange about the most mild opinion?? relax
tbh i agree, this author writes very lighthearted romances with heavy plots but the overwhelming sex scenes > relationship building and plot makes the smut start to feel like non-skippable ad placements instead of interesting content. im sure we’re all pro-sex scenes, however leaving an engaging plot on the back burner while your mc is raped constantly by his love interest does in fact get repetitive and annoying. where’s the emotionally chemistry!! the storyline!!
my exact problem with both sign and this both of them have such an interesting premise and character but the overwhelming amount of sex scene ruined it for me should have took that time to develop the characters or create deeper plot line. I would rather have sex scene every 8 chapters or so if it meant i can have more plot to read