So I get that people are pissed off at the mom for having a psychotic episode and stabbing Yunhwi, which is totally valid, but that’s not even the worst thing about her. So her family has had a sentient (non malicious) spirit chained up in their basement for hundreds of years to force it to give them good luck… and it never occurred to her to set him free? It seems like he was basically chained up in the dark for most of that time, so basically solitary confinement and restraint. Her stabbing him was a the result of a sudden mental breakdown (not to say she doesn’t have to take blame and responsibility for it), but she got up every day since she was a kid knowing he was imprisoned for her family’s convenience… and never thought about how horrible that was. To me, that’s way worse than her attacking him.
Imagine all the chaos, drama, and suffering that could have been avoided if they had just let Wooyeon process his trauma naturally instead of suppressing it with magic memory loss （/TДT)/
It’s like continuously suspending the sword over someone’s head to hide it from view while just really hoping it never falls on the person. If you leave the sword out in the open that person can observe, analyze and get used to it to minimize the risk of being hurt
I don’t know if this is a hot take, but I really don’t think Sejin is in the wrong here (I’m on chapter 14). His sexual tastes run a bit rougher, but with his first boyfriend it sounds like he communicated what he wanted to do, got consent in advance, and set up a safe word in advance in case he wanted to stop, which was never used.
With Jiwoo he has made some over the top requests, but he asked plainly and Jiwoo always agreed. He’s also made efforts to avoid pushing him too far before he was ready in some cases. He made it known that he had unusual tastes before agreeing to date Jiwoo, who was fine with it.
Sure, Sejin isn’t necessarily boyfriend of the year, but it’s not like he lied to, manipulated, or pressured either one of them into anything. It sounds like both of them were in the relationship for primarily superficial/shallow reasons (Sejin being hot/kind on the surface), which doesn’t mean they deserve to be mistreated, but seems like they never really clicked or understood each other on a deeper level.
The first boyfriend didn’t communicate their limits properly and ended up agreeing to something they either really didn’t want to do or weren’t prepared for, but it sounds like Sejin made efforts to explain, get consent, and make sure it was safe as possible, it’s just that he couldn’t handle it, which is not his fault, but there should have been more communication between them.
Sejin is being more cautious with Jiwoo now because he learned that even with prior discussions, verbal consent, and a safe word, things can still end poorly.
And I don’t agree that he should necessarily just know to go slower. How is he supposed to know Jiwon’s pace if he doesn’t tell him? If Jiwoo has reservations he needs to speak up and set boundaries. Sure, some people may take advantage of a partner like that, but it’s just as likely that Jiwoo is excited because he’s found someone with very compatible preferences.
I might get proved wrong soon, but these observations are based off of what I’ve seen so far
*proven
regardless the ML has been asked to stop on multiple occasions and has lacked on the stopping part. Regardless of him giving a heads up he never gave a real one. The sexual actions have beeb coercion example " im your boyfriend" or "do you not trust me enough" multiple chapters of him forcing himself on the MC. MC is known to be timid but he has said stop multiple times that fell on locked ears. it just rape atp especially latest chapter!
Well that’s depressing. I do see your point. That’s probably why a lot of timid, less assertive or sure of themself bottoms are paired up with domineering, selfish tops in comics. It helps create ambiguity between a general willingness to explore and caving to emotional pressure
Uke is just stupid... sorry for being harsh but I even had friends like him and it seems they literally enjoys suffering and not able to express discontent... so at this point I want him to learn from pain.
I’m really upset about how everyone trivializes Soorim’s actions and emotional responses. He was isolated and held against his will since he was a child by violent abusive men, finally managed to escape, only to end up imprisoned by stranger again. Sure, the cage is prettier, but that’s still what it is. Nobody has really explained anything and even if they tried he has absolutely no reason to trust them. But he’s the silly/childish/naive one for acting desperate, trying to appeal to his second captors through every means available to him, and trying to escape without a concrete plan?
He’s clearly psychologically and emotionally stunted by trauma, and lacks any real world knowledge or education, but it’s insane that they are supposedly protecting him altruistically… without explaining anything, yet expect him to trust them and be obedient. They have already mentioned that they have connections to the group that was holding him captive. I just hate the way they talk about him like he’s a mischievous little troublemaker that just doesn’t know any better when he’s just responding rationally to a very threatening series of events.
He is portrayed that way but I don't think the ML is treating him that way. It is protested that way because he has been locked up since a child w/o proper socialization.
*It's a prettier cage* but if he were to be let out if that cage he will be defenseless. Even assuming he is safe from the chairman he would have a very hard life.
I understand that the ML is trying to protect him, but my point is that all the people around him make all the choices for him and offer little to no explanation, but then act like he’s being childish or immature for not blindly trusting strangers who kidnapped and are holding him against his will after a lifetime of being abused.
It’s not about their intentions, but the condescension in their lack of communication which feeds into his distrust. And then when he has hostile or avoidant reactions they just treat him like he’s being ridiculous, rather than recognizing that he’s severely traumatized and they’ve done nothing to foster trust.
In fact, they’re keeping so many important secrets that any trust they do build up will likely be damaged when he finds out they’ve been keeping it from him. He may be traumatized, but he’s still shown himself to be determined and resilient.
So who really benefits from them keeping those secrets? Is it actually that they want to spare him the difficult truth (which entirely shapes his life and he will inevitably learn anyway), or that they think he will be easier to manage without knowing about the full picture? Even if they intend to protect him, I’m pretty sure it’s the latter.
My point is they’re really not respecting him as an autonomous person. He already knows he’s not able to leave and everything is going to happen on their terms, but I don’t think it’s right for them to keep such important knowledge about his body and why he’s always in danger from him just for the convenience of not dealing with his reaction or having it actually reason with him about how best to handle the situation.
No. I totally see that.
But from what I can tell....I've read a bit more of the raws and it makes more sense. But from what I can gather is that WooKyung treats him like a child because of their age gap. And because he knew him as when Woorim was a child. (sorry if I got the name incorrectly, been reading too many plus real life trauma). Also, as you can see Woorim is carrying around a teddy bear. Also, in later chapters it mentions he understands that once the mark appears he was ____ I will let those chapters come. I do not know one-hundred percent his understanding that he is being sold for the express purpose of having sex. I'm assuming that's what he had been "nurtured for" all those years. But just the fact he sleeps with and carries around a bear and not understanding what an ID card is ... And ML knowing him when he was a child (though MC doesn't seem to have any recollection of it, esp. because his mom keeps warning him about the red eyes, so that he is wary of all red eyes ppl, including ML) and still seeing him as a child, even though he has come of age. He is said to be 20. But I'm not sure. I thought they knew each other when he was 8. Which makes him 18, given his captivity of 10 years.
The artifact idea is so brilliant because he can make up whatever rules he wants and explain away any of her abilities
Damn, that was an elegant and beautiful ending ┗( T﹏T )┛
I did notice that even though the chapter is titled “finale”, there was still the usual “to be continued” message at the end so finger crossed. I’m hoping for at least 100 chapters of side stories. (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I’m still bitter that there were no Randolph x Ulysses scenes when there was so much psychological and plot buildup for their relationship. I actually think Ulysses is a very interesting character and it would be cool to explore his past and future in more detail as well. Enoch and Sihav have a checkered past and an interesting dynamic with both each other and Ulysses. They’ve also been around for and integral to the entire rebellion and most conflicts that occurred afterwards, so it could be cool to see things from their perspective. I would also love some happy retirement vibes from Shin and Wolfgang, god knows they deserve some peace and quiet. ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
I also found it hilarious that the rebellion was made possible almost entirely by the political maneuvering of Shin (while he was still a literal child), a semi feral but extremely athletic princeling, and Ulysses’ army/harem of buff killer masochists, so without two children and an older teen the entire coup would not have been possible. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
It’s even more impressive when you consider that Shin did everything while being constantly watched and under lock and key, Wolfgang managed to hone his skills enough to take on most elite knights and his family within only a few years of being in the palace, and Ulysses’ managed to disguise an entire army as a harem by publicizing his unorthodox sexual preferences… and also using it as a legitimate harem. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Ok but the April Fools pairing/dynamic is actually way better than the main story one
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I’m actually really pissed about the prince killing her family (no matter how abusive and horrible they were) behind her back. She thinks they are exiled, but now they will never have a chance to recognize their wrongs. And Reiju may want to discuss and unpack her childhood trauma at one point to get closure. It might happen, it might not, but now she won’t even have the option, or worse, she’ll go looking for them only to find out the truth. I don’t agree with the “it’s for his/her/their own good” justification crap. He told her they were being exiled and she was satisfied with that, but he lied and went further. He didn’t really do it for her, he did it for himself
When you get sued by your toddler who you didn’t know existed Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
I’m sobbing this was so tragic, beautiful, and hopeful
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