I really like this couple, but I always find it so lame and pathetic when people are jealous of their partner’s sex toys. They’re just for personal enjoyment. Is Bunny jealous of your hand? Of course not because he isn’t ridiculous.
Imagine all the drama and trauma that could have been avoided if Toguto had just chosen not to be an insensitive asshole to his first mate
I can’t believe Do Eum was actually upset that Changyeon “never shares anything” with him, as if he hasn’t been blackmailing, manipulating, and tormenting him for months. Yes of course you would love to share your trauma and vulnerabilities with someone who has made it clear that they are actively working to make your life miserable.
Doeun is in the same category as Janghyeon, if not worse in terms of the psychological abuse he’s inflicted on Changyeon. The assumptions he made weren’t unreasonable, but he took it far enough that it’s more about pursuing personal enjoyment than a legitimate revenge.
The damage of love withheld is a consistent theme, but out of all the characters, I feel that only Jisung and Choah felt genuine love for anyone. Both Yusaran and Mujin were raised in emotionally abusive environments and nobody modeled how to love either family or lovers to them.
Jisung did have lingering feelings for Choah, but interfered more out of concern than jealousy, and as we found out, rightly so. He accepted that they weren’t going to get back together and always tried to help Choah as a friend and mentor.
Choah genuinely loved, cared for, and supported both Jisung and Mujin when he was dating them respectively, and in terms of all the skeletons in Mujin’s closet, forgave and accepted far more than most would. The only time he wavers is when he learns about how Mujin killed his family, and even then he hesitates to truly end it.
Yusaran definitely felt strong affection and a certain degree of awe/reverence for Mujin, but was it love or emotional codependency? He knew that his feelings were unrequited through no fault of Mujin’s but was so enraged by his relationship that he violently interfered. He didn’t care about Mujin’s choices or emotions, he just wanted to sabotage a relationship he was jealous of.
Choah was assaulted by both Yusaran and the Baekrang, but things may have gone very differently if not for Mujin’s lies. He only complied with Yusaran’s abuse because he made threats on Mujin’s life, and at that point Choah was under the impression he was a strong, but average person, not a powerful and accomplished warrior. If he had known Yusaran couldn’t harm Mujin, he would have been able to refuse. The incidents with Baekrang involved him trying to take advantage of Choah while he was drunk or feeling the effects of opium, and later on a bit of coercion. If he had known Mujin’s identity and history, it’s unlikely he would have let his guard down.
Mujin never cared as much about Choah’s safety or happiness as he did for his own possessiveness. And that’s where it all went downhill. He murdered all of Choah’s loved ones seemingly for the purpose of preventing them from trying to separate them and told countless lies. His self centeredness is what drove him to the violence that ultimately destroyed their relationship. Even when Baekrang referenced that he and Choah had a sexual encounter, he didn’t even question it or ask Choah, he just assumed it was true, then left his lover alone at the mercy of a psychopath for days on end. He showed his true colors. He never loved Choah. He wanted to own him, and that’s what he did once the relationship fell apart.
Also can we talk about how in the last side story it showed that the ring was literally stitched to choah's finger...
Don’t remind me, I’m still trying to repair the psychic damage of both finishing reading this story and watching Scavengers Reign in the same week
thsi is so real
this !!!! there's so many people in ghe comments calling cho ah all sorts of names... like did we read the same thing or ???
Fairy dude assaulted someone who was blackout drunk, then didn’t even stop once he woke up and told him to stop. I’m at the point where I might stop giving Korean comics a chance since almost every single one I read has SA bullshit
it's the other way around. Pakr gyu chan was the one who assaulted fairy guy. Re read chap 2 again
Why do Korean authors hate consent so much? It’s almost impossible to find adult comics that don’t have blackmail, abuse, exploitation, coercion, or assault by the prospective or endgame “love interest”. It’s no wonder women are boycotting men in South Korea if this kind of mentality towards sexual conduct is common.
I’ve seen so many complex characters, interesting plotlines, and unique concepts completely ruined by this horrible shit.
Is there some secret curse that causes Korean authors to drop dead if they write a story without gratuitous SA and abuse?
I actually wonder about that. Sometimes, works from certain places reflect a bit of their culture. Like how Japanese mangas have a lot of beta males as protags coz, terrible as it is to say, they're targeting a certain demographic. Also, I've heard a lot of personal accounts of toxic experiences with men from Korea. The amount of red flag MLs from manhwas is astounding and honestly alarming. And I hate the excuse when people say it's just '*✧ fiction ✧*'.
Don’t forget “historically accurate” like ok bro it might be historically accurate, but if you think I’m not going to question why a story created by a modern person for the entertainment and enjoyment of people today has a ton of gratuitous abuse and sa in it, you’ve got another thing coming. Believe them when they tell us who they are
Fr, cause it is so normalised it's so concerning, every time I think manhwa has changed I get proven wrong. Both the stories that are horror or psychological and the ones that are cute romances have rape, blackmail, SA os some sort and it's really weird. What's even crazier to me is that the authors sometimes even include the effects of those experiences but they still let it go unaddressed.
And we can't forget how they keep inventing new universes and tropes that make sexual assault a lot more commonplace; omegaverse, subversive, guideverse, cakeverse seems to be on the rise too? I don't see why you would purposely create a world where rape is normal and not make it a dystopia but instead make it a cute romance????
Sorry! I meant to do a thumbs up!
I totally agree with everything you said, but what the fuck is cakeverse? I’m filled with both curiosity and dread.
I actually like Guideverse and Omegaverse when done well, and in my mind the setting is just an excuse to do what authors want. Plenty of them put nasty shit into standard settings. Excuses or not, they would’ve found a way to incorporate/normalize their twisted mentality. A weirdly high percentage of the Subverse comics I’ve read have actually dealt with previous trauma from sa and finding a healthier partner/mentality towards sexual desire. But then again I have a selective memory because any comics that glorify sa get immediately thrown in the trash pile both literally and mentally.
I went into Omegaverse cos I had a thing for necks and was fairly curious about mpreg back in the day. Wild were the days when that verse was filled with never ending SA-centered plots. It took a while until we actually got healthy omegaverse stories which is sad.
I agree with what was mentioned about authors jumping into verses and have SA as the foundation for a lot of the plot. It's so tiring to see tbh. I get that sex sells but it's not sex that's selling these. It's the rape. Plain and simple. If they want sex, it can be consensual but I guess SA is a magnet for readers and a huge fetish thing for a lot of people. Personally, I steer clear from a lot of popular BLs that has a lot of gratuitous SA coz they're depressing.
I was actually once told that I was so 'weak' for not being able to handle it. And I was all ???? Why is it bad for me not to like SA in the stories I read? How does my dislike for that equate to me not liking good stories? I couldn't understand =_=
I've gotten told that too it's crazy that people think I'm the problem for not wanting to continue stories that have rape in them.
I have seen some good subverse and omegaverse things but they're far and few between for me. Almost all the subverse stuff I've read don't dive into the aspect of consent and safe words which is weird considering how important it is in bdsm so I need to read what you're reading.
I wouldn't mind these stories so much if the mc didn't end up with the abusive piece of crap ml, cuz even in the stories where the fucked up shit is acknowledged and treated seriously they still end up together for some reason and it's so frustratingヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
Exactly, it makes no sense
True. Not to mention MC that forgives the ex that raped them. Or rapists with sad backstories that are somehow obviously put in the story that explains why they are how they are. Even worse, written in a way that explains why MC forgives them which I feel does not make sense at all.
I think there’s also a cultural aspect since a lot of these stories come out of Japan and Korea which have lagging mentalities towards consent and women’s rights. They don’t treat it as serious as in the West, which had several movements since the eighties to bring awareness of the severity of sa, and importance of consent. I very much doubt American comics launched here would make it to publication with the same content.
I’ve noticed that in Omegaverse the omegas take on a feminine role in society and tend to reflect traditional struggles and treatment that women face. There’s kind of an entitlement of alphas towards omegas, and the belief that vulnerability is an invitation that reflects a lot of backwards “justifications” that men make when they mistreat women.
And another interesting comic down the drain because apparently authors can’t bear the thought of writing an X rated comic without rape. Seriously, what is the problem and why the constant insistence on trying to minimize/normalize SA?
Idk….. I was hoping for a fun smutty historical fantasy.
Not an abusive one.
I should know by now not to hope for that.
And it’s always the Korean comics obsessively peddling this shit. No wonder the 4B movement took off there.
4B movement is not popular over there sorry to break it to you. Tho Korean women do face injustice n discrimination over there. Anyway, hope you don't hate the artist since it's a novel adaptation
Neither Naskaya or the dragon truly care for her. They both care more about owning her than supporting or loving her.
The dragon has consistently manipulated her life, forcing the dragon eyes on her, and worming his way in without actually winning her approval.they may not have a volatile relationship, but their marriage was against her will. He does things that cause a lot of stress and difficulty to her life without a second thought because he doesn’t mind as long as it drives a wedge between her and Naskaya.
Naskaya ignored all of his judgement and instincts to force her to marry the dragon for his personal gain, only to seethe with jealousy all the time. He makes logic based decisions that he can’t handle emotionally and emotional decisions that aren’t realistically feasible, then takes it out on her when things don’t work out.
Taesa may have taken care of her primarily out of love for her mother, but his affection for her is far more genuine than theirs is
Am I the only one who is sick of MC s getting paired with genuine psychopaths? There’s no actual romance here, just sex and emotional manipulation. Joong is written like a sociopath. He genuinely does not comprehend the emotions of other, lacks the capacity for empathy, and acts entirely selfishly even when it harms others without feeling any guilt. I’m pretty sure he’s diagnosable.
Yeong may care about Jeong and act on those emotions, but Jeong is only interested in what he can gain from Yeong’s affection. I’ve noticed that sociopathic behaviors often get normalized in bl comics, and narcissistic tendencies get normalized in both bl and straight comics from Korea (though self centeredness is common in depictions of straight relationships from everywhere).
There are so many comics where the shitty top only gets aware with their horrible actions because their victim is magically fine with it, doesn’t show any trauma responses, or just gets over it quickly. I’m just sick of this garbage.
fr, its why im just starting to go with shonen ai stories with no sex, the roance is genuinely good and the story is actually a story instead of just.. porn
But even from a smut perspective, having a creepy exploitative partner doesn’t even make anything better, and usually adds shitty moral problems that ruin whatever good scenes there’s are
exacly. Ig there is probably a number of people out there that enjoy that kind of stuff but it's still so creepy
That loser is STILL jealous of a godamn dildo!!!!!! That’s such a turnoff and it’s like his fatal character flaw. How insecure in your own performance do you have to be to feel legitimately threatened by a piece of plastic?
Right? As if he didn’t fall in love with a sex streamer like pls be so for real dude
Its specially stupid because he sells sex toys.
I forgot about that ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ