I don’t understand why people are blaming Madelyn for any of the issues from their relationship. Madelyn was a bit naive and inexperienced, but all of their issues could have been avoided if Ian had just done the bare minimum to communicate with her.
Ian ignored and was cold to her for years with little explanation or communication. What was she supposed to think? Their relationship only improved because she took the initiative to really go the extra mile to try to interact with him. He does say very gruff and cold things repeatedly. Is she supposed to be a magical genius who can tell that he actually cares when he does not confirm it through his words or actions. When he makes kind gestures like finding Cory or sharing the books she does begin to realize that he cares about her. The issue is not that she misunderstands, but that he doesn’t give proper indicators of his affection. He basically kept her locked up for years and barely spoke to her. Of course she would think he disliked her.
It’s true that she didn’t understand his trauma, but she was a previously sheltered lady, people know less about mental illness in that time period, and even if it was well known, how would she be able to understand what he’s going through if he spends most of his time declining to interact with her. She tried many times to “be a good wife” and support her husband, and try to get to know him. It takes two to have a relationship, and Ian never wanted to participate. He ignored her for literally years whenever she tried to start a conversation or get to know him. How is that her fault?
She absolutely did try to help her father. She forced him not to invest in the doomed wine business and tried to curtail his reckless spending, but he kept spending anyway. He invested recklessly in another doomed trade venture behind her back. What more was she supposed to do? It’s clear that her father lacks the financial sense to maintain or grow his wealth, and he does not listen to her advice or acknowledge his problems. She bailed him out once with her knowledge of the future, but he just ended up in the same position with a different foolish investment. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t force it be more reflective and not to make shitty investments
On top of that, his plan to recover was basically to sell her off without a care in the world. He was selfish in his first life for killing herself and leaving her completely alone, destitute, and vulnerable, and he’s the same in this life for trying to leverage her marriage to bail out his own incompetence. Then when she refused to be sold he abandoned her, and then showed up to leech off of her when he thought she still had a chance with Ian. Why would she give any more help to someone who willfully refuses to acknowledge their failings and views her as nothing more as an asset to sell off when the times get rough?
She does try to plan for the future, she just doesn’t have a lot of options. She’s a noblewoman who was very sheltered, then basically imprisoned in her first life. She really doesn’t have any marketable skills or experience. She tries to educate herself, but she’s playing catch-up in a big way. She also has no money left for other education, but she makes it work by becoming a nurse. It was probably the best course of action. Since they’re so needed, every institution is desperate to train and employ more nurses during wartime. Once the war ended she would have sufficient training to either get a full time nursing job or get into a more thorough training program.
She is definitely hung up on the relationship, but it’s really just that she’s an excessively empathetic person. If she had ever actually hated him, she wouldn’t have tried to save everyone in his life. She prevented Isabel from making a reckless decision that would lead to her death, which prevented Eric from going onto the frontline where he would have died. She never actually wanted to leave him, she just wanted to have a good relationship with Ian, and that carried over into her second life. She’s just tries to warn people about the terrible things that happened to them in her first life.
ML is just a whiny bitch with a grudge against prophets because one malicious prophet fucked up his life. He’s very self centered and emotional. Even if he doesn’t trust prophets, Eugene never tried to scam or convince anyone and helped both him and his family in many ways, even before their relationship deepened, but he’s ready to scrap the entire relationship over something like that?! Alexis needs a serious reality check and attitude adjustment
This is a horrible story with an insidiously manipulative ML. ML is a Duke, but pretends to be the peasant best friend of the fl for more than a decade. She learns that she is going to be sold to the Duke presumably to be used for sex, then killled. She goes to the ml for help, hoping that if they marry, and she is no longer a virgin, the Duke won’t be interested any more. She is 100% upfront about what is happening and why she is proposing.
Despite the fact the ml is the Duke, knows that she isn’t going to be abused like that, and that he has the resources to protect her, he doesn’t tell her anything to make her less desperate or fearful.
His men swoop in and “rescue” her from people trying to kidnap her, only to imprison her in the Duke’s castle. ML pretends to be a gardener to see her and still doesn’t let her know what’s happening. She still believes she’s going to be assaulted and killed at some point. He is going ahead with wedding plans for two weeks without even proposing or clearing the air. When she finds out the truth he even guilts her into going along with it by painting her as manipulating his feelings and trying to exploit him.
He deliberately manipulates her by pretending to be sweet and vulnerable so she will do what he wants. He doesn’t care about her opinion or autonomy, and is happy to take advantage of her fear and desperation to get what he wants. Basically, the type of character who would rather manipulate her into an emotional and literal corner than actually try to win her over, because he knows he will never take no for an answer, so if it ever came out of her mouth, he would become the undisputed villain.
The fl is not a real character, but an accessory to the ml. She’s got the usual fl Jekyll/Hyde switch (basically a normal personality for when the ml isn’t around or doing something shitty, and a permissive doormat personality for when the ml treats her like property). Since accommodating the ml’s toxic behavior is a higher priority than the consistency of her character, behavior, and personality she gets watered down into a dumb, naive, spineless, and shallow character. The only reason the ML isn’t the villain is because the fl magically forgives everything instantly, and does not think or act like a normal person (or even her main personality) whenever she finds out the ml has lied to, manipulated, gaslit, disrespected, or demeaned her.
It’s not a contest. Does he get a prize for not being physically abusive or related to her? Your defense of his behavior is essentially “he could be worse”, which really says a lot about how few decent qualities his character has. Also, what does her random family history have anything to do with his actions? She doesn’t know that history and neither does he, and even if she did it wouldn’t actually make a difference. So she is more accountable to her unknown family’s past behavior than ML is to his own?
It takes a hell of a lot more to be a decent (not even a good or great) partner than “not being physically abusive”.
That red head bitch is such a tool. It’s obvious he’s the “grass is greener on the other side” type. He had her in her first life and treated her horribly. He only wants her now because he can’t have her and his inferiority complex towards Carcel keeps getting triggered. Now I’m afraid he has memories of their past lives. I need someone to take him out stat
Am I the only one who is sick of the worthless “turns out they were long lost childhood friends” trope? It just always seems so pointless and irrelevant. The fact that Tae Oh was nice to mc when they were both only a couple years out of diapers doesn’t change the fact that he is selfish, inconsiderate, entitled as an adult. It just seems like a weird detail to include or bring up. So this guy has been a major asshole with no regard for the mc for 40+ chapters and the relationship has issues with unhealthy power dynamics, a lack of communication, unnecessary deception/lies, and rampant toxicity, but they were super tight as first graders so it’s obviously destiny.
Even when the relationship isn’t negative or toxic, it still seems like a pointless add on. 9 times out of ten, one or both of them don’t actually remember until long after the relationship (and ensuing drama) is established. If only the bottom remembers, it either means that it’s completely irrelevant, or the reason they are pining for someone who is obviously unavailable or uninterested, and therefore willing to put up with a ridiculous amount of toxic bs because childhood feelings go thump. If only the top remembers, they will either say nothing while punishing the bottom in various toxic ways because they’re butthurt about being “forgotten”, or they realize it well into the relationship during their “redemption arc” which triggers them to finally treat their partner better. Whatever happens, 99% of the time it’s contrived and stupid.
Nope. Their story kinda feels warm for me. Poor baby Dobin but glad he had Tae Oh with him. ╥﹏╥
The childhood story is definitely really cute, but in the context of their actual adult relationship, it just seems like just another mechanism for the author to push an obviously toxic and dysfunctional relationship