Has anyone else noticed that in the common naive x manipulative dynamic, the “cuteness” of the character is used as a distraction from the reality of how problematic the manipulative character is? Manipulators are often considered cowards who don’t have the courage to actually shoot their shot, but that’s not it at all. This type of character does not acknowledge or respect the autonomy of their love interest.
They lie to, manipulate, gaslight, harm, and isolate their love interest rather than directly confess their feelings or ask them out because they don’t care about their opinion or emotions. Kiel has no interest in forming a genuine relationship. He only cares about facilitating Asha’s cooperation in providing him the personal gratification he wants. If Asha said no for any reason, it would be irrelevant to Kiel who would continue with trying to force the relationship.
They don’t ask because they don’t actually care about the answer, he knows that forcing a relationship on an unwilling person will be problematic and cause Asha and others to have animosity towards him, which he does not want to deal with.
It’s even worse in this case because of the age gap, power balance, and very obvious grooming. Even if they were both kids at the time, Kiel was several years older, so the imbalance is real. It’s also very clear that Kiel lied about rules and the norms of social interactions to get Asha closer to him.
I’m just very sick of seeing horrible stuff like this romanticized.
Eh, kind of a letdown. Another series where the fl randomly falls in love with the ml and devote her life to him for no reason. There has to be at least something in the plot or character dynamics to justify the level of commitment she is giving. She was fully planning to leave him after he told her she could, but suddenly she’s all in because he passed out from hunger on the training ground. Prince dumbass has access to food, so he’s only got himself to blame. ML has stereotypical abused backstory to broody pessimist personality, and FL is a classic smart, capable character who randomly does dumb, out of character things that are obviously designed to manufacture an opportunity for the ML to ingratiate himself.
I really like this story! Definitely a top contender in the “misunderstood/mistreated villainess gets revenge” trope. I really appreciated that she used her own abilities to accomplish everything instead of immediately leaning on a man like is so common for this trope. I think she’s a really interesting character who is a unique blend of loyalty, selflessness, and avarice. All in all, a great read.
It was a decent story overall, but I kind of disliked how Wellmy was built up as a stoic loner mastermind only to have the wind taken out of the sails when it was revealed that everyone around her knew everything the whole time and just let her struggle alone because reasons.
Everyone basically celebrates how smart and amazing she was for putting on an act and spinning so many schemes for so long, but they could have actually stepped in to help her before everything came to light.
I just thought it was weird how all these people who claim to care for, respect, and support her let her think she was alone and despised for so long when it really wasn’t necessary. She legitimately believed she was completely alone and thought she would be convicted at worst, or thrown penniless onto the streets at best
Based on what I could understand, the could not just intervene rashly due to the abuse as the previous Earl could spin it around against Iora. There is also the fact Wellmy already put her plan into action by placing people around Iora who could potentially help her escape the situation. Wellmy is not thinking for her own benefits and is self sacrificing and she could deny involvement as the report was being sent anonymously. The crown prince could not just do whatever since he was in disguise at the academy.
Other pov though, Aides was not also directly involved until he was needed to temporarily engaged to Iora so the latter could finally get out of the house.
Dad also is powerless because of his status as a commoner
Weird situation but hope this helps
I get that the plan was solid, but my issue is that they left her alone when they could have at least offered emotional support. It’s not like they could have swooped in and fixed everything, but they could have at least let her know she wasn’t alone and that she wouldn’t have to take the fall with her family
Truly, I get you. At least they have gone about it this way, but there is a circumstance that they could not. They hands are tied (sister, dad and crown prince) and have no way of contact (Aides).
I can also see why the sister didn't want to let her know as in an abusive situation, you'll do everything to protect the other person even if it means you get the full load of it. It's more of the feeling of being trapped and unable to trust anyone. It could be also said that Wellmy does not completely trust Iora to save her as she being hypervigilant about protecting her and letting herself be hated.
It's a complex situation. I'm just glad they made it out if it.
His brother is pissing me tf off. He’s basically telling him to get over it, because they’re all his parents’s problems. Yeah, and they’re issues that defined his childhood and identity. The brother basically left him in the dark to struggle alone for years knowing that Seongwon would never achieve anything he sacrificed his life to accomplish.
He has been poisoning himself basically since puberty to become an alpha that would be accepted by his father and approved of by his mother. Every single person in his family knew the secret, but told him nothing as he worked tirelessly to gain their approval.
So no, it’s not just “parental problems”. He was raised as an object whose sole purpose was to obtain the approval of his father, take control of the company, and bring his mother back into power/a relationship with his “father”.
Now an opportunistic sadist is trying to tear down his life for shits and giggles and the man he loves is in danger. The brother is part of the abuse. He stood by and didn’t give him info he needed as he watched him abuse himself to the point of illness all while knowing it was all for nothing. The father did the same thing, watching him bust his ass to prove himself knowing full well he would never be allowed into the true family or to earn any power within the company
As far as I’m concerned, all three of them are rotten peas in a pod, just as bad as each other
Damn right hell yes.... I'm with you.... I just wanna burn the damn family down and gnash that brother's and his shitty father's head in for what they've done to him... The nerve they had to make him kneel.... My boy deserves a damn good family and hansul is all that he needs.....the family can rot in hell for all I care
True to form, even after a serious misunderstanding that left their entire relationship at risk, Jaehyuk is still more focused on the validation he feels from Garam’s distress/betrayal when he thought he’d been cheated on than actually comforting and alleviating Garam’s distress.
Jaehyuk is a major player, has been mostly straight, and has made degrading comments to Garam about his sexuality in the past. Under those circumstances it’s entirely reasonable for Garam to assume he’s cheating. And even when his relationship is imploding and his partner is in severe distress, he’s still only thinking about himself.
Even the original fight was about him being offended that Garam was not progressing in the relationship (thus providing higher levels of emotional gratification) fast enough. Any jerk can say “I love you”, but it takes time for someone to be ready to feel and say it.
meant to downvote.. i disagree with your opinion. in any relationship, you need to have trust in your partners. the first thing to do is communicate, which garam didn’t even want to it. i’m not saying that jaehyuk is innocent. we all now his past but he’s been trying to now-self into someone who is better. his past shouldn’t define who he now , as he’s clearly trying to make an active change. plus, wanting validation isn’t a bad thing, most people want it. i understand how jaehyuk feels. with the treatment garam as given him with the avoiding and the ignoring, and now they’re in a relationship with no language affection from him, it can be hard to honest jaehyuk. he is very open about his feelings towards garam. seems like garams issue with that is due to his past trauma due to an old relationship. communicating the reason why he has a hard time is the right choice. but he chooses to push it back which just causes jaehyuk to feel like he doesn’t like him. many people seek validation from their lover, it’s normal. it’s hard to blame him for that.
I agree with you on most of the things you wrote- personally tho I think jaehyuk isn’t truly narcissistic, just rather callous because it’s the first time he’s feeling real feelings instead of playing around. But we can come to that conclusion because we see his POV- see him fall in love, realise he’s being a jerk, trying to be better, etc- Garam isn’t privy to all of that, he only sees jaehyuk being more decent and kind (well, in comparison to his viciously homophobic self a while back lol) but he doesn’t know the depth of jaehyuk’s feelings, or whether it’s sincere due to the nature of how their relationship began.
A lot of what you’re saying is true, but Jaehyuk isn’t exactly a reliable when it comes to himself. He has a tendency to internally justify, make excuses for, and conveniently gloss over important details of the selfish stuff he does. He may have feelings now, but his initial motivation was to emotionally charm a Garam for the sole purpose of being able to have sex with him
And it’s going to be impossible to really get meaningful understanding because he has no way of explaining anything without looking like a liar or crazy