Finished rereading some parts of the manhwa and I have been wanting to say this oh god Cain is just a flat character with no layers whatsoever. He really doesn't have any personality other than being a dog until the end. All the other characters other than this guy showed some character development but meanwhile this fella stayed the same until the very end.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!
PERIOD
Yup his character is dead ass flat i kennot believe these Cain stans saying it's well-rounded character they don't even know what that is. Like the author spoiled this character too much, no challenges were thrown, boring, tasteless until end
Lols his character is literally designed for spoiled fans
Calling his flat ass character as a well rounded character is an actual insult to those actual well rounded characters out there.
EGZACTLY
I'm not sure why people are so mad over who Jooin chose at the end like what were you expecting when the mc never loved the other guy lol. It has been so clear all this time? Anyway, I'm happy for Yahwi lol. Hope we get more chapters on them spending time together and building their relationship.
He fked his dog, he's SL*t you don't see the other 2 guys go around and fk their dogs
Bro what
girl it’s not his fault cain was literally like “do it with me unless u hate me” ofc jooin doesn’t hate him and he was sad… how does that make hik a slut
I have seen some people saying "Jooin going back to Yahwi would just diminish his character development cause he was hurt by Yahwi" umm isn't how 70-80% of the BLs here like that? Top guy being an asshole, bottom hurt, bottom leaves, top guy realizes, redemption arc, chasing arc, and finally reconciliation. With this logic all of these MCs should have also ended up alone then cause won't that diminish their character? The point here is this concept is not really something new that few peeps think it is.
Yeah and that's the problem. The fact that majority of bl's (that has smut in them) have a dickhead top is insane!
And yes. Plenty of those MCs should not be with the assholes.
Then ig we should also normalize that some people will only judge the mistakes of a person but not the efforts they did. Life.
It's why i relate to yahwi his character design is realistic him not endgame would make this even more realistic but it's fiction he shud be endgame :VVV he is even a ceo now lmaooo unreal
well thats the reason we all have second pead syndrome with most of these bls lol
Girl I love Yahwi as a character so dw this is not a jab at him or his stans. It's especially directed towards those who actually think Jooin going back to him is weird which is absolutely not cause he has changed so much as a character and have gone through everything which a BL top usually goes through.
Idc what anyone says to me it's as clear as day that Yahwi is the endgame. Cause I would really feel weird if a dude who appeared in 2.5 seasons out of 3 seasons and the one who actually had a good character development is not gonna be the endgame.
hey nowww cain did have some development as well, letting go of jooin and his past life thing was a really hard decision for him and im sure we will see how it benefitted him just like it did yahwi.
whose onli development btw was treating a guy bad and realising that that is wrong lol. then he went thru the 7 stages of grief until he accepted that jooin doesnt want to be with him. not that lind blowing of a character development either.
and i know every yahwi stan is getting agressive when they hear a little criticism so i am just telling how i see things, not to offend anyone or the author or the characters of the story. yahwi is a great character but so is cain and jooin and they all had development. especially Jooin.
Real they said they are reading but they never did try to understand yahwi and jooins pov. Jooin has been crying out loud from s1 to s3 because he can't have yahwi lmao even cain knows this even cain knows jooin loves yahwi cain said it himself
Oh yes Jooin has always loved Yahwi and Cain always knew this until the very end. He tried everything from his side but he couldn't make Jooin love him. As a reader this fact was clear to me lol. Even in the latest chapter it's very clear that Yahwi and Jooin miss each other. I'm waiting for their reconciliation.
Well I can also say Clain's ONLY character development was finally trying to be a human from being a dog? Like I'm not even being sarcastic that's literally what he wanted to be until the very end lmao.
So are Cain Stans lol they really get agressive when we give lil criticisms towards Cain and say Cain was not a pure angel cause man had his flaws and questionable moments too but only Yahwi gets fried in this matter.
Anyway, I'm not here to start another argument I never said anything about Jooin and Cain bro? All I said was Yahwi had a good character development and centred in almost 60% of the manhwa (which is true) just like you're biased towards Cain I am biased towards Yahwi so obviously I'm gonna highlight him and talk about him only lmao.
I advise not to reply to cain stans comments cause next things you'll know they will start saying we are arguing with them lmao when they literally the one started commenting under yahwi stan topic
yeah girl i understand you lol i never tried to say cain was flawless just stated my opinion that they all had some sort of development, so not only yahwi.
and my guy cain was depressed asf and he somehow found the jooin oast life thing something like his only source of happiness so he just put jooin on this high ass pedestal and became kore desperate for affection every chapter lol. by tge end he kinda learned that he can't get jooin to love him and finally wanted to find his own meaning.
ik no one cares about that lol i just thought id tell you regardless
That's very true but looking how ytc went, it obvious it has clichés but its still very different compared to the 70% of BL. Ytc is the only one that made us actually question back and forth who's endgame. Because there's the ring and there's the drawing like wtf gonna happen because we still haven't seen the other guy. Really depends next chapter on who shows up. But the writer really did better than most bl wroters compared to love triangles that's what there's still a reaction like that. Because they did show a MC who finally decided to separate from both men.
It was my response to what you said how Yahwi Stans get agressive with the criticisms cause it's the same for Cain Stans too.... I didn't say you particularly said it lol.
Meanwhile my boy Yahwi was groomed since the childhood to believe that Love makes you weak and lost everyone who were dear to him and grew up loveless. He was desperate for love but didn't know how to express because his grand pa fcked him up with his upbringing. It's not an excuse but it definitely plays a major part in his character which many peeps don't wanna acknowledge. My boy surely committed many mistakes for which he faced the consequences as well but more than anything he learned to let go the one he loves the most despite the fact that he knew he would be left alone again with absolutely no one but himself. And ik many don't care but yup I thought I'd tell you this anyway.
so in the end, both guys had problems with the meaning of love and put jooin as their only source of love only to learn to let go in the end. to me it sounds like they made the same developments lol.
i wasnt trying to argue i was just trying to make this point, that they both had similar developments. i understand yahwis point too, me personally i just couldn't forgive and forget like jooin since i know people like yahwi in irl lol.
Well that's fine lol I get it everyone has their personal preferences and I just don't like Cain a character.
I just treat fiction like a fiction whenever I'm reading these manhwas because they are supposed to be perceived that way cause if I start associating these BL characters with irl then I don't think I would be able to read and enjoy any of them lmao.
i mean yeah separate fiction from reality i get that, most of these stories are unrealistic anyway, and its not like i treat them as real people or anything, i just dislike Yahwis character trope for my own reasons, i guess same with people who dislike Cain.
its fine to not agree on things but many people take it too far with voicing that disagreement and cussing people out over literal fiction lol.
not specifically talking about anyone in this thread just what i learned in this comment section especially.
Same reason i want to enjoy the fiction and be a part of the fandom that wins at the end that's why i switched like when i was 16 yo immature minor i really like cain but now when im 19 reading his character is actually annoying istg
Yeah, I get what you saying. Like you don't have to insult others or get personal over fiction that's just lame.
Girl I get ya I find his character really annoying since the beginning esp when he started guilt tripping and manipulating the mc a lot like bro literally said "if you don't hate me then do it with me" like tf it really pissed me off.
Man's literally out there drawing a cat doodle on the window lmao if it's still not obvious who the endgame is then ai dunno.
As if the title isn't based on the ring Cain gave him the delusions never stop for Yahwi stans I see
Girl the only delusional one is you here...like y'alls reading comprehension is like a dead meat.
Cope harder sweaty
OP is right you're the one who is coping harder tho.
@yaoidevil aww coward can act tough then block?
We'll see (⊙…⊙ ) I could really give a rats ass who he ends up with in reality, I don't think anyone belongs together lol I just find the people being hardcore stans silly
@S-J-M Not you calling them coward you did the same thing to me you loser ass
@S-J-M I see that you did the same thing to OP lmfao you have no right to call me one when you are the biggest loser yourself!
SPOILER ALERT: It has always been Yahwi lmao if people are still surprised or confused then it's on you and your reading comprehension for sure lol.
FR!! Pretty easy hint: we wouldn't had gotten the first 30 chapters abt their relationship if he wasn't gonna be endgame. Cain remind a pushy stranger up until the last few chapters, HOW did they think it was gonna be him??
THIS! Couldn't agree more lmao. Yahwi literally appears in 2.5 seasons out of 3 and we even got full-fledged chaps about his childhood story which didn't happen to the blondie until very recent (that he got like two chaps plus we still dunno about him like that we know about Yahwi). It's very obvious that the author gives weightage to who. And also never seen a BL manhwa love triangle where the MC doesn't end up with the first ML(almost non existent).
There are a lot of love triangles where the first ML is not endgame tho. It just depends on how their story starts (ex. Anti P.T)
Yeah I could have worded it better. It definitely depends on how it starts. In the first 20-30 chaps itself you can get a hunch that who can be the endgame.
After reading both the way Jooin ended with Yahwi and Cain all I can say is to me it's clear as day that who is the end game and it's not Cain lol.
With Yahwi it was actually Yahwi who spoke for Jooin and ended things with him and let's not forget the way Jooin was crying and there were no explicit Good byes. To me as a reader while reading it didn't feel like that was gonna be their ultimate meet up and in fact felt there is a room for development in the future.
However with Cain well the bro knew that Jooin NEVER LOVED HIM and whatever Jooin told him were more like he appreciated him and treasured him. And loving and treasuring someone is not one and the same(as said by Jooin himself). Ultimately when when Jooin removed the leash and frees him...Cain goes like he wouldn't look back now and be happy like Jooin asked. So yeah lol it's pretty obvious that where this is gonna go after the time skip.
true, also i wanna add that Jooin always reminding to readers how much he LOVED Yawhi, but never mentioned any love whatsoever when he was with Cain or talked about him.
So yea, really jogging my noggin here
THIS! exactly lmao like was he attracted to him? Probably yes. Did he love him? No fcking way lol. He loved only Yahwi from the beginning until the end.
All I care about YTC is Yahwi as no other characters have ever piqued my interest so I really hope he gets a happy ending that he deserves that's about it lol.
Practically speaking Yahwi is literally in the 2.5 seasons out of 3 seasons. If that white man who is the incarnation of dog is the endgame who is barely present in the manhwa then I really dunno lmao. Like the author should have established that white dude and MC's relationship properly then at least it would have made some sense.
i mean if you think about it yahwi was being a piece of shit throughout all those seasons.
cain has been here for two seasons as well and guess what he hasn't slapped jooin or humiliated him or lead him on or raped him :0 who do you think is more likely to be endgame honestly speaking lol.
besides nothing is set in stone yet no one knows who's endgame still.
Don't play race card when you don't have any other reason to hate on Cain.
"Yahwi being a piece of shit for two seasons" oh boy here we go... anyway I ain't gonna deny all his wrong doings however there is a difference in how you and I see him. I don't see him as a black and white character because he is not. He is a character with flaws and actually went through a wonderful character development.
Oh also Cain was definitely there for 2 seasons with his full 5 mins presence here and there for sure lmao but anyway that's fine you do you.
Also I'm aware that nothing is confirmed yet it's just "if author goes that way" it won't make any sense to me as a reader.
Homegirl Gokudera literally just replied to me and blocked me HELP
??? Bruh this gotta be the most unserious sh!t I have read. Where am I hating on the white guy? Whatever I have stated are just facts 1)he is WHITE 2) a DOG in his past life 3) barely present in the manhwa compared to the other two. Like please
You're repeating what twt dummies are saying. So I'm repeat what twt says too. Yahwi and Cain had equal amounts of screentime, Cain appeared and been showing up since chapter 11. Reason this white man might win is because he never treated Jooin like mistreated Jooin for not remembering his past. Yahwi confirm is was acting like this because Jooin didn't remember him. Not because of he was being raised. Not sorry but he has been shit majority of the time he was there am donky started to relaize his consequences last minute
lmaooo. let me clarify that i dont even like any of these mfs i dont like cain or jooin but i sure as hell don't like yahwi more than them.
yahwi aint black and white hes grey huh? bc his poor mommy died so his trauma comes out in him raping someone and treating them like shit? then after that someone leaves he starts regretting it and starts guilt tripping, manipulating, and clinging onto jooins ass not letting him move on? that is not character development lol yahwi continued to act like his asshole self if you recall until the end when he decided to start being clingy instead.
cain was there literally almost as equally as yahwi? he just came in later in the story after a couple chapters. maybe reread and check for yourself. season 1 focused on yahwi and season 2 focused on cain and the third season has them both equally so idk what you mean.
Oh finally you're here I see you literally under every one's comment arguing like bruh man Godzilla you can think whatever you want like I seriously don't care I will express what I felt as a reader. You can keep yapping idc.
Lmfao I already told ya you do you why you writing essay again bruh like ain't reading all that chill and move on man.
i am chill honestly you're the one whos tryna shittalk and then not be able to handle when someone replies back lmaoooo
I try not to agrue and I like discussing the series because it's one I do enjoy. I have no hate for it. But I can't help when silly things are being said especially when other dismiss context.
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I can say the same thing about what you are doing as well lol Because at the end it's all subjective as each reader has their own perspective and opinions and trust me I find your argument very silly too but the thing is idrc.
Yeah sure man if that makes you sleep at night then so be it.
Lmao I blocked this acc ages ago but anyways. If you're not playing race card then why mention he's white lol. 2 and 3 I kinda agree.
Why do I see some people here comparing these BL characters and relationships to real-life?Do you realize how dumb you sound. This is a fiction and things happen here are unrealistic...it's the same for 90% of the BL manhwas out there. People read these books for fun and they are aware that it's not real. Neither these BL MANHWAS NOR THE CHARACTERS ARE THE MORAL COMPASS...THEY DON'T REFLECT THE REAL LIFE IN ANYWAY. Please stop this fuckery oh god.
Frfr they think we are dumbfucks like them who doesn't know separation between fictions and real life
Fr! It's so fucking lame man. It's funny how it's coming from only certain set of stans.
lmfao i made tge comment because i saw people that this happens in real life calm your tits
i aaw people say*mb
I am calm lol...it's just fcking funny.
Ok but have you seen godzilla spelling collage instead college smh pls calm my tits slut
i just opposed people saying its 'realistic' as an argument lol how am i the weird guy here
are we bout to kiss cause
Girl when did I call you the weird guy? Tbh it was not even directed to you but to the other person who replied it could be realistic so I'm not sure why you took the offence.
lmao mb i assumed cause i was the only one who made a comment about that lol
Their fighting over this manhua, Im really having fun reading their comments just grab a popcorn and read them together ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Guys any spoiler for the next chapter? Im dying to know maybe there's a clutch happening again haha Im very doubtful.(≧∀≦)
Bet this Godzilla guy is writing a thesis on his beloved Cain right I remember he replies argumentatively to anyone who stans our Lion Kitty before
My thesis is leave my name out of your damn mouth. I only made one comment about Cain possible chapter and yall here whining about. Not sorry I had theories and defended Cain.
Lololol i think it's the same person who debated with the cover photo
FRFR just for the cover photo he went on writing nonstop Hahahaha. He sees all Yahwi Stan comments as a Trash take before I bet he doesnt remember everyone he responded with his foul mouth and the other cain stan MOCHIYOMI i bet she "shitting on someone else and throwing in " stfu " comments to those who doesnt agree with him Woof i just used her exact "word " sorry HAHA juz coz we stan our Lion Kitty and not the woof woof guy
Deym you have list of their names? I mean I'm not shocked they keep coming back here as if cain would still show up while shading on the mc and ml character development
Lit!!
they tryna throw off anything pro Yahwi topic and comment before how could i not memorize these names, they barked the hardest
damn what is this burn book comment section