Some of us actually don’t mind a little non-consent, but what a lot of artists don’t realize is that the characters have to at least be established. One chapter in and you expect me to be comfortable with this seme? BFFR
The euphemisms for sexual violence need to stop, if you're talking about CNC (Consent non-consent) then thats the name for it not non-consent. If you're gonna say sexuak violence can be hot please say it with your chest, theres no point in trying to soften your statement. Say it as it is.
Everyone is entitled to their own and it so happens I find this hot my and taste. You don't like it? Then why are you here? Go read a story that you actually enjoy instead of trying to ruin it for others by pretending you're morally above readers who enjoy this when bottom line is, this is fiction and they're a drawing.
Everyone is entitled to their own and it so happens I find this hot my and taste. You don't like it? Then why are you here? Go read a story that you actually enjoy instead of trying to ruin it for others by pre... Tenmanyashiki
I understand the point you're making here however the 'this is fiction' arguement is a huge logical fallacy. It being fictional and a drawing isnt an argument, there are so many other reasons why theres nothing necessarily wrong with consuming this sort of content. The rape in this is sexualised so its no wonder you find it attractive, for most people its a natural response. Sexualising rape is unethical but finding a piece of content that sexualised rape, arousing is (for the most part) a common reaction. Though, its concerning if you find very violently depicted rape scenes arousing. As well as saying that sexual violence can be attactive out of pocket, thats wild.
It feels like I'm taking to a minor or sometime born this generation which isn't surprising considering we had the same fucking theme of BL back then as well and there were less babies whining.
Honestly it feels like westerners are the problem these days cause in Japan, we really don't give af.
There are no restrictions when it comes to fiction, especially manga cause people know how to separate reality and fiction. If you can't understand this that's a you problem and you shouldn't even be digesting the work in the first place.
The mangakas basically draw and publish the stories because that's what they like to do. If it was really problematic they wouldn't publish it.
It feels like I'm taking to a minor or sometime born this generation which isn't surprising considering we had the same fucking theme of BL back then as well and there were less babies whining. Honestly it feel... Tenmanyashiki
Addressing issues isnt whining, maybe you're just desensitised. Japan is socially still stuck in the 2000's so of course you cant expect them to care about smaller problems when they have so many rampant issues like goddamn gender equality. There are restrictions when it comes to fiction which is why its a crime in so many countries to illustrate sexual images of children, fictional or not. More and more countries are cracking down of that sort of content. Seperating fiction and reality is being able to acknowledge when fiction has gone to far or when there are issues with fictional content. Bullshit like this contributes to rape culture but the mangakas are the ones producing at and primarily at fault. Your last comment, mangakas will publish anything, you've been on this site long enough to know this.
"Learn how to treat others"Also you: kink shaming people for liking rape and calling them a "fucking weirdo"Maybe you should take your own advice retard lol Tenmanyashiki
bro nga stop yapping. Their point is their normalizing r@pe in stories so much to the point where delusional no-life idiots like you defend it and say it’s for the purpose of k!nks. And no, it’s not for that, it’s because the yaoi community normalizes and sexualized genuine issues because they’re weird
Addressing issues isnt whining, maybe you're just desensitised. Japan is socially still stuck in the 2000's so of course you cant expect them to care about smaller problems when they have so many rampant issues... toilet terrorist
Trying living in Japan, your "socially stuck in the 2000's" and the problems you list don't fucking exist here. We don't have shit like gender equality issues. The shit we worry about is how shit our work system is.
And no there are no restrictions when it comes to fiction. That's just a rule that snowflakes like you create.
And mangakas don't just publish anything. It depends on the magazine. There are rules to each of them of what they can and can't publish for the specified target audience. You'd know this is you actually purchased them and read outside your yaoi bubble.
Stories like these don't contribute to rape culture, it's people like you that so by saying it's appropriating to it when it in fact doesn't because people who read this are old enough to know this isn't real and aren't stupid as fuck.
bro nga stop yapping. Their point is their normalizing r@pe in stories so much to the point where delusional no-life idiots like you defend it and say it’s for the purpose of k!nks. And no, it’s not for tha... ManhwaEnthusiast
This trope isn't restricted to just BL. Just look at romance novels in general, which like BL, is mainly a community for straight women. Obviously no one wants that to happen to them in real life, but self-insert fiction (because let's be real, that's what most romance is) is a safe way to explore that kink or other forms of being dominated while still having the power to "stop" it or say "no"--that is, by putting the book down and knowing you're not in any real danger.
The important thing is fiction provides a safe place for people to examine and interact with their kinks and fantasies, with no real world consequences. There’s always a lot of discourse about it portraying rape and romanticizing it in fiction, especially BL, but that’s up to the individual person and the individual fiction they consume. Just like how a lot of things are unrealistic in BL or erotica/love stories in general, it’s unrealistic to see so many instances of non consent in a “love” story or relationship. But...some people like unrealistic! That’s what makes it fun and engaging for them. Kinda long but there are a lot of complicated reasons why it’s so common, but none of them I don’t think are inherently immoral or dangerous. As long as people are responsible and learn to separate reality from fiction which apparently a lot of readers like you don't have the brain capacity to do.
Addressing issues isnt whining, maybe you're just desensitised. Japan is socially still stuck in the 2000's so of course you cant expect them to care about smaller problems when they have so many rampant issues... toilet terrorist
Engaging with fiction that portrays non-consensual situations or power imbalances does not mean someone is condoning or promoting those actions in real life. The key aspect is the ability to differentiate between fantasy and real-world behavior, ensuring that boundaries are respected and consent is prioritized in all relationships. So if you can't differentiate between the two then you're not even old enough to read.
Fiction can and will always offer a safe space for exploring different fantasies and interests.
Trying living in Japan, your "socially stuck in the 2000's" and the problems you list don't fucking exist here. We don't have shit like gender equality issues. The shit we worry about is how shit our work syste... Tenmanyashiki
I didn't say gender equality issues were non existent but they exist just as much as it does around the world. It's not a crux or anything in Japan.
Not sure why you're someone else's blog opinion as some kind of factual evidence cause it isn't.
The fact that you're getting offended by being called a snowflake over an online discussion just shows that you're not old enough to read BL in the first place lol.
And no, there are no restrictions to fiction. There never was and their never will be. You don't like it? You can move on. Simple as that.
This trope isn't restricted to just BL. Just look at romance novels in general, which like BL, is mainly a community for straight women. Obviously no one wants that to happen to them in real life, but self-inse... Tenmanyashiki
!!!This!!! Wtf is even rape culture. Mind u ppl reading these and complaining about it. That's what the perception is. From their OWN mind. Cuz this doesn't work for them. And they can't imagine it happening to them so they crossed out or scared by it. But that's what it means by fiction. You create some kind of fantasy, and other ppl, consume them. Like. Literally you're in someone's head where they fantasie about it and you're participating in it but then you're like well they wrote Abt it and drew it so it's all illegal and shit because literally you're partaking in THEIR FANTASY
This trope isn't restricted to just BL. Just look at romance novels in general, which like BL, is mainly a community for straight women. Obviously no one wants that to happen to them in real life, but self-inse... Tenmanyashiki
!!!This!!! Wtf is even rape culture. Mind u ppl reading these and complaining about it. That's what the perception is. From their OWN mind. Cuz this doesn't work for them. And they can't imagine it happening to them so they are grossed out or scared by it. But that's what is meant by fiction. You create some kind of fantasy, and other ppl, consume them. Like. Literally you're in someone's head where they fantasize about it and you're participating in it but then you're like well they wrote Abt it and drew it so it's all illegal and shit because literally you're partaking in THEIR FANTASY. It's THEIR HEADSPACE, so they can do WHATEVER the fuck they want. If you don't like it, just don't JOIN it. I rly don't get what ppl are getting so work up over it for. I literally came onto the BL scene only a few years ago and I'm not a fan of rape. But I'll consume it only as far as I am comfortable. The rating maybe low if it's uncomfortable, but this is a work of fiction and it in no way reflects real life. AT ALL!!!
And even though I am new to this genre I can see the argument, since I am a lot older. I feel a lot of the younger generations are just purely crybabies shitting themselves over inconsequential & non-substantial things. Really.
Some of us actually don’t mind a little non-consent, but what a lot of artists don’t realize is that the characters have to at least be established. One chapter in and you expect me to be comfortable with this seme? BFFR
If you think non-consent is hot get help, you fucking weirdo
You ever heard of kinks? Lol retard.
Who the fuck do you think you are to call me the r-word. Learn how to treat others and then come back on the internet, you fucking bitch
The euphemisms for sexual violence need to stop, if you're talking about CNC (Consent non-consent) then thats the name for it not non-consent. If you're gonna say sexuak violence can be hot please say it with your chest, theres no point in trying to soften your statement. Say it as it is.
As a dude with a rape roleplay kink, we do not claim this person. Thank you
"Learn how to treat others"
Also you: kink shaming people for liking rape and calling them a "fucking weirdo"
Maybe you should take your own advice retard lol
And as a person who also has a rape kink, you don't claim me lmao.
Everyone is entitled to their own and it so happens I find this hot my and taste. You don't like it? Then why are you here? Go read a story that you actually enjoy instead of trying to ruin it for others by pretending you're morally above readers who enjoy this when bottom line is, this is fiction and they're a drawing.
I understand the point you're making here however the 'this is fiction' arguement is a huge logical fallacy. It being fictional and a drawing isnt an argument, there are so many other reasons why theres nothing necessarily wrong with consuming this sort of content. The rape in this is sexualised so its no wonder you find it attractive, for most people its a natural response. Sexualising rape is unethical but finding a piece of content that sexualised rape, arousing is (for the most part) a common reaction. Though, its concerning if you find very violently depicted rape scenes arousing. As well as saying that sexual violence can be attactive out of pocket, thats wild.
It feels like I'm taking to a minor or sometime born this generation which isn't surprising considering we had the same fucking theme of BL back then as well and there were less babies whining.
Honestly it feels like westerners are the problem these days cause in Japan, we really don't give af.
There are no restrictions when it comes to fiction, especially manga cause people know how to separate reality and fiction. If you can't understand this that's a you problem and you shouldn't even be digesting the work in the first place.
The mangakas basically draw and publish the stories because that's what they like to do. If it was really problematic they wouldn't publish it.
Addressing issues isnt whining, maybe you're just desensitised. Japan is socially still stuck in the 2000's so of course you cant expect them to care about smaller problems when they have so many rampant issues like goddamn gender equality. There are restrictions when it comes to fiction which is why its a crime in so many countries to illustrate sexual images of children, fictional or not. More and more countries are cracking down of that sort of content. Seperating fiction and reality is being able to acknowledge when fiction has gone to far or when there are issues with fictional content. Bullshit like this contributes to rape culture but the mangakas are the ones producing at and primarily at fault.
Your last comment, mangakas will publish anything, you've been on this site long enough to know this.
bro nga stop yapping. Their point is their normalizing r@pe in stories so much to the point where delusional no-life idiots like you defend it and say it’s for the purpose of k!nks. And no, it’s not for that, it’s because the yaoi community normalizes and sexualized genuine issues because they’re weird
Trying living in Japan, your "socially stuck in the 2000's" and the problems you list don't fucking exist here. We don't have shit like gender equality issues. The shit we worry about is how shit our work system is.
And no there are no restrictions when it comes to fiction. That's just a rule that snowflakes like you create.
And mangakas don't just publish anything. It depends on the magazine. There are rules to each of them of what they can and can't publish for the specified target audience. You'd know this is you actually purchased them and read outside your yaoi bubble.
Stories like these don't contribute to rape culture, it's people like you that so by saying it's appropriating to it when it in fact doesn't because people who read this are old enough to know this isn't real and aren't stupid as fuck.
This trope isn't restricted to just BL. Just look at romance novels in general, which like BL, is mainly a community for straight women. Obviously no one wants that to happen to them in real life, but self-insert fiction (because let's be real, that's what most romance is) is a safe way to explore that kink or other forms of being dominated while still having the power to "stop" it or say "no"--that is, by putting the book down and knowing you're not in any real danger.
The important thing is fiction provides a safe place for people to examine and interact with their kinks and fantasies, with no real world consequences. There’s always a lot of discourse about it portraying rape and romanticizing it in fiction, especially BL, but that’s up to the individual person and the individual fiction they consume. Just like how a lot of things are unrealistic in BL or erotica/love stories in general, it’s unrealistic to see so many instances of non consent in a “love” story or relationship. But...some people like unrealistic! That’s what makes it fun and engaging for them. Kinda long but there are a lot of complicated reasons why it’s so common, but none of them I don’t think are inherently immoral or dangerous. As long as people are responsible and learn to separate reality from fiction which apparently a lot of readers like you don't have the brain capacity to do.
Engaging with fiction that portrays non-consensual situations or power imbalances does not mean someone is condoning or promoting those actions in real life. The key aspect is the ability to differentiate between fantasy and real-world behavior, ensuring that boundaries are respected and consent is prioritized in all relationships. So if you can't differentiate between the two then you're not even old enough to read.
Fiction can and will always offer a safe space for exploring different fantasies and interests.
Japan doesnt have gender equality issues? There arent any restrictions when it comes to fiction? Stories like these dont contribute to rape culture? You're in pure denial. There is so much evidence against you.
https://saratogafalcon.org/content/normalizing-sexual-violence-through-media-fuels-rape-culture/ This can be applied to rape culture in the gay community fueled by BL and other pieces of LGBTQ media.
https://www.ipsos.com/en/flair-collection/flair-japan-2022/gender-inequality#:~:text=An%20advanced%20society%20in%20so,to%20the%20World%20Economic%20Forum.
https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2019/03/gender-equality-in-japan-yamaguchi
There are restrictions in fiction, creating illustrated child pornography is a crime where i live and is coming a crime in more and more countries. Calling me a snowflake for having a simple principle really shows your character. I wont respond to you anymore.
I didn't say gender equality issues were non existent but they exist just as much as it does around the world. It's not a crux or anything in Japan.
Not sure why you're someone else's blog opinion as some kind of factual evidence cause it isn't.
The fact that you're getting offended by being called a snowflake over an online discussion just shows that you're not old enough to read BL in the first place lol.
And no, there are no restrictions to fiction. There never was and their never will be. You don't like it? You can move on. Simple as that.
Lol. Exactly. Ofc we see the backstory but the beginning was like a bat to the head. Literally.
!!!This!!! Wtf is even rape culture. Mind u ppl reading these and complaining about it. That's what the perception is. From their OWN mind. Cuz this doesn't work for them. And they can't imagine it happening to them so they crossed out or scared by it. But that's what it means by fiction. You create some kind of fantasy, and other ppl, consume them. Like. Literally you're in someone's head where they fantasie about it and you're participating in it but then you're like well they wrote Abt it and drew it so it's all illegal and shit because literally you're partaking in THEIR FANTASY
!!!This!!! Wtf is even rape culture. Mind u ppl reading these and complaining about it. That's what the perception is. From their OWN mind. Cuz this doesn't work for them. And they can't imagine it happening to them so they are grossed out or scared by it. But that's what is meant by fiction. You create some kind of fantasy, and other ppl, consume them. Like. Literally you're in someone's head where they fantasize about it and you're participating in it but then you're like well they wrote Abt it and drew it so it's all illegal and shit because literally you're partaking in THEIR FANTASY. It's THEIR HEADSPACE, so they can do WHATEVER the fuck they want. If you don't like it, just don't JOIN it. I rly don't get what ppl are getting so work up over it for. I literally came onto the BL scene only a few years ago and I'm not a fan of rape. But I'll consume it only as far as I am comfortable. The rating maybe low if it's uncomfortable, but this is a work of fiction and it in no way reflects real life. AT ALL!!!
And even though I am new to this genre I can see the argument, since I am a lot older. I feel a lot of the younger generations are just purely crybabies shitting themselves over inconsequential & non-substantial things. Really.