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Tay is not pushover, he's literally being forced wdym, it's not like he won't stand his ground he just can't

Taeui is by no means a pushover, did you Even reading?, if you think he's a pushover idk what to say smh, if you're gonna hate on him please leave (•-• )> the exit is that way

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taeui a pushover ???!!!!
DAMN this is crazy I never thought I would see the word pushover next to our taeui like did you even read ?

REAL

saying “pushover” in the same sentence as “gaslit, manipulated, betrayed, rape” is wild. does that mean that you think victims of those aforementioned things are “pathetic pushovers” then?

and taeui is strong. but ilay has always been highlighted to be more monstrously vicious and is canonically the strongest in their universe + his connections and reach. I trust you’re smart enough to put two and two together.

Tae is a pushover?? The guy literally just being forced. He thought his life is on the line and he's well aware he has no any means or resource to overcome any threat that comes from Ilay. He has no choice but to endure.

I don't know how you can wrongly understand a character's situation. Gotta practice that reading comprehension.

Commit to your freedom, or accept that you are nothing more than a sex toy. You know Ilay is a pyschopath who will never consider your feelings beyond what he can get out of you, so if you really mean to stand up for yourself in that scenario, then do it without regrets or hesitation.

Let the forest burn. Let Ilay kill all his subordinates. That's not your problem anymore.

But all I've ever seen from Taeui is reckless concern for the welfare of those who abuse him and gleefully do so. He is capable of fighting back, but when it comes to Ilay, it's just one wavering indignation and rationalization after another.

He made it from UNHRDO in Asia to Germany on a fake passport and alias without being detected. In an age of mass surveillance.

As far as I'm concerned, Ilay is not a god and clearly isn't as hyped up as you make him out to be. He is a muscle-brained murderer whose first reaction to any opposition is to kill them.

several chapters later and you equate taeui’s fight for weakness and lack for trying what that’s all he has been doing. please, if you compare it to your average BL with a a similar trope, the victim would run away semi-successfully from their abuser who’s most probably a CEO alpha man who predictably finds them anyway and repeats the cycle. passion is in a more political-esque setting with the creme of the top military aka ilay hot on your ass. again, taeui is strong and he tried his best. who are you to undermine that just bc you think if you were in this universe you’d become resistant to manipulation and rape if that happened to you? if half of the shit ilay put taeui through was something you miraculously could avoid, knowing who and how ilay was even now as a reader?

and you didn’t answer my question. so you think victims of rape, manipulation, gaslighting, and betrayal are “pathetic pushovers” huh.

—lack for trying when** that’s all he has been doing—

Taeui is no different than every stupid BL trope of an uke who gets raped and feels that they like it and miss the feeling and gives excuses to the seme. Multiple scenes of rape and abuse, but always the same regret of "but I thought otherwise". His attempt to escape worked, but apparently everything else is hamfisted nonsense. Real victims of abuse who commit to saving themselves run the fuck away, burn every bridge, and don't look back. Taeui gets led around by the nose by other people's shitty rationalizations, but lacks the self-preservation instinct of when to cut things off.

Before you say Ilay is some sort of demigod, the great Ilay apparently couldn't figure out how Taeui vanished for months, and traveled across two continents to end up in Europe. As far as anyone is concerned, it seems that actually Taeui is very capable of escaping and hiding.

And to answer your last question, if you want to make me out as monster, be my guest. You're only putting words into other people's mouths to justify your white knight self-righteousness. That is exactly what people call an ad hominem fallacy.

I see by now that you absolutely have no sympathy for victims at all, and no matter what I say, you’re so shit deep into this complex of yours that you’re nitpicking everything that taeui has done regardless of the fact that he yes he IS capable of escaping seeing the fact that he DID escape and DID hide from ilay, to which circumstances that are completely out of the ordinary to majority of us readers (the kidnapping, primarily) forced them together again. plus maybe you’ve forgotten bc you’re so engrossed into blaming this entirely on taeui, but he had a CO-WORKER RAT HIM OUT (that one person who loved collecting guns), oh or do you blame that on taeui’s incompetence as well?

you didn’t answer my question in the first place and immediately bombarded me with your holy oh thou rant of how tae is supposed to do better given his situation so forgive me for jumping into that notion. but hey, you continuing your claims about this and disregarding tae in general makes it reek that you don’t acknowledge him, a victim of all those things and more. this may be fiction but that doesn’t give you an excuse for a skewed moral compass. tae is a victim. if you hate him and his character, then just stop reading. I’m sure there are other manhwas out there that can satisfy your itch, but I (and a lot of the readers—thank god there aren’t more like you) stand by my point that tae is NOT a pushover. I’m not arguing further bc I think I can predict what you’re going to say next. blocked. bye!

Once again, more ad hominem attacks that are irrelevant. Do you even know what holier-than-thou even means?

I nitpick everything Taeui does because he quite literally tells himself that he needs to do better. But a few months of Ilay and him being barely functional and he gets a rosey impression that comes back to bite him in the ass. Over and over and over again.

Victims deserve sympathy, but not a blank check of where their plans to escape went wrong. And once again, you are putting words in my mouth, this time about not acknowledging this person as a victim. I literally did, which means you are engaging in a strawman fallacy as well.

The only thing you're taking issue with is that I called him a pushover for not committing. And I'm not wrong about it either. If your only response is an endless barrage of logical fallacies, then its clear you don't have an argument beyond Taeui has no agency and deserves only our pity.

man i wish too his interests clearly don’t align with theirs, i would have been out the moment i entered that hotel room if i were him.

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