Chemistry

you are reading a work of fiction, a yaoi, a webtoon and you are worried about logic? come on now!

Everyone has opinions but yours... It's unnecessary and rude. It's better off if you didn't express what you felt reading this manhwa after all.

It needs to have some base in logic to be appealing.. the plot is okay but in s2 all they do is have sex and the plot barely progresses. I doubt s2 will be worth reading

But I'm here for the smut. Honestly I'm just glad there was no second couple, like I usually don't get attached to 2nd couple so I really like this comic, it's one of my favorites. It's only recently I've been seeing dislike the comic in the comments, but to each the own I guess.
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There may be works without logic but they shouldn't have such rating. That's why I'm so pissed)
Japanese works are usually evaluated more or less reasonably (that's why when I try picking one I can usually assume that the ones with high rating are at least of high quality, even if I don't like it in the end I wouldn't be so disgusted and dissupointed), but it's a whole different story with Korean ones. They are totally unpredictable and this is disturbing. For example, the painter of the night is great, and this one is just horrible. It's boring and stupid. So why won't people just stop give 5star rating to such comics only because of the fan service, bright colors? Even the most popular Japanese comics don't have so high rating when it's similar: low story quality but lot's of popular tricks...
I wouldn't write these comments if not for this controversy ) usually I just don't care about the things I don't like, but it's a different story when I feel deceived.

Look, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean everyone hates it. I'm sorry you feel decived, but I really liked this comic, I liked potn too. We all have different tastes. I've seen a lot of hate comments for potn. You can't compare digital webtoons and traditional paper comics lmao.
I'm totally cool with you not liking the comic, just don't state your opinion as fact.

I 100℅ agree with this statement like how come u hate a web toon so much to have such extreme point of views. Plus this season also has proper story like gio's past that is related to his parents will be shown then the thing with Felix and his mom so this season also has a proper story line. It's just a little slower in pace then s1(⌒▽⌒)

The problem is not in whether there is a story line or there is not. For example, it's stupid how the seme always gets those murder attempts and the uke was kidnapped and almost raped, and yet the "villains" don't get persecuted at all. And they were not subtle in their actions at all, it would be easy to find evidence, there are also witnesses. The author just ignors logic here. It is even more unfathomable how the uke just prays that the red head doesn't kill him and his family while committing crimes to sooth him instead of turning to his "father" and revealing the truth to him, asking for protection, or turning to the police, or revealing the situation to the public- after the redhead told him about his lianage. It's also stupid how the redhead revealed the fact to him - because it's most obvious to use this for protection and life improvement, especially after his mother was almost killed and his dread trampled. And the redhead spills the beans and the uke just eats thus shit doing nothing.
And when the redhead tells the police that the uke committed corporate espionage and assassination attempt... and they gust go and imprison him... first of all, he wouldn't do so normally - when he is a part of it and the mastermind, no less. Second, the police wouldn't imprison a person without solid proof and without even the victim's (the seme's) testimony. Third, it's easy here to proof, that it was the redhead, that threatened him into espionage, there are the sms, their meetings, the uke didn't get any money for the stolen Intel but his mother got into a hospital in the process of the operation. There is also that seme's older brother, who could testify, that the Intel ended up in the redhead's hands, which shows, that he is connected to the matter. And, while the uke doesn't have power to stand up against the wealthy and powerful (that is until he tells his father about the matter), the seme does. He is obviously the wealthy and powerful himself, he also has family members, that could help, and yet he doesn't really do much. And I didn't read past the uke's arrest.
All in all, this comic is just atterly stupid, it is also pretty boring. And it's not a matter of my "taste", it's the matter of quality. Thus it doesn't really matter how many blind people like this thing, it's rating can't be this high.

Uh well I can already see some wrong points in ur statement but I will leave it at that cus I will take too much time and effort to explain but if u read past the arrest u will see that Gio helps solve the situation. Ofcrs the villains get persecuted later in the story u just need to be patient. Also the couple met becuz Gio needed a bodyguard for safety cus that's the beginning of the story so if he didn't come across multiple assassination attempts then that would be weird instead. Ur point abt how Felix didn't turn to his father in the story for protection isn't plausible either. isn't it obviously becuz of lack of trust and confidence.... And the explanation can go on and on but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

If you don't like it then don't read it. Simple , right? Why you waste your time reading this if you don't like it and talk bad about this. . This is fiction, not a reality.

Uhhhh cuz their relationship is healthy? '-'

The art is amazing, the plot is not cliche, and overall the relationship is pretty healthy (great communication and trust). I do agree that I would prefer more idk like dates or something, not just sex but its all right :/

Umm wtf when have you ever seen perfect logic in yaoi? And actually it is just your taste, please don't state your opinion is fact.

Exactly! Why the heck is he/she demanding logic in manhua? Does isekai, reincarnation, turning back time, omegaverse, big boobies or whatsoever have logic in it? ㅠㅠ

The ones of quality certainly do) it's not about how realistic the setting is; it's about how the characters' actions are consistent or not within the setting. It's about their reactions. And so on.

fair enough, i can see people only liking this for the smut anyway

I agree. I felt that the author was very lazy on most of these details. This is a popular “ rich x working class” trope, where the seme literally does everything for the uke - even buying him a house & everything he needs and putting him in a very convenient situation. Its most likely so the reader can insert themselves and fantasise about it. This manga seems to be created for the sole purpose of being popular, i do not see the plot being well developed or planned, because of how everything progresses. It feels as the author is making things up as they go, and putting smut when things get boring. This manga was funny, but i cant rate it more than 4/10 personally. Waste of art.

The relationship does not seem healthy trust wise. I am glad they communicate well usually, but it seems that one of them always get jealous of the other for being with another man. I feel as there is no trust and they barely communicate on this matter ( the uke/seme have to find out why the other is jealous on their own) and the author just goes along with it. Meh

They never stated that. You should write their valid opinion off with “ when have you ever seen perfect logic” . You shouldnt be happy with what you got just because its “ not perfect”. There are good nuances within the story but it seems very plotless to me, especially in season 2. I feel like people who like smut would like this, but thats it. Beyond that its very boring ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Oh finally a person with eyes! This world is not completely lost! And yes, that's exactly how it works with these cheap comics/novels, it's known by those talentless authors what to stuff their stories with so that readers who yearn for some self satisfuction can achieve it through the MC, and the work becomes commercially successful. While the story itself is not a real story, the characters are not live people, it's all fake and dead. I believe there should already be some terminology for this recent phenomena though I don't know it...
Still, even if people like it and read it regardless- it's up to them and their needs, but the rating must not be exaggerated like thus, it's not something, that represents how people like it, it's supposed to represent the product's quality, nothing more, nothing less.
There is a problem with rating on this site specifically though: the moment you rate something it is put into the "already read" folder and then you'll get the update notifications even if you hate the comic and have no intention on reading it ever again =/ which is not a problem for people who rate it highly and continue reading... while I have to delate my mark if I don't want it to further irritate me... that leads the the problem's worsening..

Agreed. I was surprised myself how this was so well-rated on this website, and how people are saying its a “very recommended “ read. To each their own i guess. I see no point in reading this unless someone wants to read some good old smut, but even that isnt very well presented. Fiction or not, this story doesnt seem alive, as you said. I am not sure how to describe it, but i feel as the author themselves didnt care much for the story. They have made other relatively better written mangas in the past, so i can only assume this is one of the reasons. Something popular and easy to read. I am not surprised in a way, as most mangago readers are relatively young fujoshis, haha.. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

First of all, you are very rude when expressing your opinions which is totally uncalled for. The other person who defended you was polite enough so at least her/his opinion is worth listening to. This isn't a cheap web toon and the author is not talentless which is obviously proven by so many more people defending this web toon. You are practically an ignorable minority. The story is obviously not real it even has supernatural factors the author probably added only for the sake of romance. This web toon does have a proper story too but it's just a small story that could be finished in fewer chapters so expanded this way makes it look like it's only full of smut. U think the characters seems fake but they aren't as bad as u make them sound. Certainly there are mangas which display human emotions and reactions more appropriately but it's not that bad here either. U r requesting a perfect story with perfect characters with perfect everything but that's just pointless to be honest.

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Well, I kinda agree with you. I'm gonna hate the next trope of gio being insecure, I hate insecure relationships. I hate that every time they have sex, Felix asks gio to stop and he just continues and it is implied that Felix wants it.

I basically hated every manhwa I read because of cliche tropes, dub con, and got easily angry at every character.
But then I started focusing on the small cute moments, true season 2 is kinda plotless, but I love the art, like when something cute or not be be taken seriously stuff is being said, the characters are drawn very small for that panel, and that is my favorite thing which was not common in season 1.

I don't love it because "it is not perfect" lol it's just I don't compare it the real life, which itself doesn't have perfect logic.
I would be creeped out if such things happen in real life. But since it can happen in fiction without any consequences, I like it.

Of course I also like this comic cuz so many uncensored scenes are there ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

As far as I can see there is none :(
There is an option "delete" right before the rating, but it deletes both subscription and my rating...

Oh? So the author can actually write decently but in this case decided not to and just preferred to make easy money without straining their brain? This is even more upsetting...
As for stories made just for smut- why don't they do one-shots then, as it is supposed to be, why waste so much time on empty interactions of the characters =/ this is also kind of silly, as for me...
Mmm young fujoshis shouldn't read stuff like this, it is illegal, they should first aquire some basic education and reach the legal age...

I mean its not another toxic af manga where they get jealous/angry (sometimes abusive) at the other person. The manga is just another rich/businessman who spoils his helpless lover. I like this manga because the reason Geo and Felix met and developed their relationship is something I have never seen in a manga. I also love the art style but I do wish instead of sex scenes about every chapter, for there to be date scenes or something. Geo isn’t abusive or makes false assumptions like other mangas, but yeah.

I agree with you. I gave it 5 star because i totally love this story. Their relationship is not toxic. And im so in love with the character development and the plot. I rarely gave manga/manhwa/manhua 5 star tho. If i gave it , it means i really like the works. Not to mention i only follow works with good rating, read it and judge myself. Just because this story is not your cup of tea, doesn't mean it's the same for everyone. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

How many manga u see with high rating but the story is obviously toxic and the seme / uke unnecessarily possessive and manipulative? Rape? Have u read koisuru boukun? Hidoku shinaide? Sekaiichi hatsukoi? Also Manga with big boobs and harem (like tf?) But some people still read it anyway since they like those kind of stories. The fact that this manhwa have many audience means that people do like this kind of work . You might not see what the avid reader see in this manhwa. Like i said if it's not your cup of tea then nothing we could do. Your opinion is not a fact but merely your opinion on this manhwa just like mine. It's my opinion that this manhwa is good enough to get high rating, so i gave 5 star. It's a matter of preference. Kids shouldn't be near this kind of story. This story clearly intends for 18+ reader, if a kid is here reading this, their parents should be blame for not keeping their child in check. It's their responsibility not the authors. We are grown up enough to know this is fictional works so why so serious? ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Wtf with you? If you really hate it , don't read it and make your OWN story. Maybe you are more talented with your logic and drawing. . Why you make a fuss about rating?? That's mean many people like this story and nobody care about your damn shit. . Omo. . Please stop it. I know this is your opinion but please just keep it with yourself. .

Oh. And if you care about rating damn much , let me tell you something. " IT'S UP TO US IF WE WANT TO GIVE 5 STAR OR NOT BECAUSE THIS IS OUR OWN CHOICE. WHO ARE YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT RATING?? JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT , IT DIDN'T MEAN WE NEED TO DISLIKE IT TOO. . MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS."

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So truee. Like u can hate it of course but why do people like us who like the story need to be blame for giving it high rating. Do we need to follow your taste too? Obviously it is because we like this story so much and adore the characters that's why we gave high rating like that. Simple logic.
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Wow... it's really there! Never noticed it before. Thanks so much :)

Yes.. i feel as the story would have had more potential, but the author didnt seem to have much passion for the characters. I am confused on the characters relationship, since they are always jealous of eachother yet claim to love eachother dearly? Its very off-putting.

Im not sure about that. There have been many instances where Giovanni/Felix have gotten jealous over the other, going as far as to say they cant be in the same room with the other man. It seems very obsessive and possesive to me. Yes they are in love, but they seem to have this unspoken fickleness with their definition of “ trust” in the relationship if that makes sense. Idk. I feel as this authors other works, specifically “ till our lips touch” was better thought-out and written.

Well I was also initially drawn by the potential... I mean, the idea has some attractiveness, also the art... but it's like the author wasn't even thinking about what they were writing, there are such obvious mistakes, that don't require some sophisticated intelligence to get noticed... like that moment: they signed a contract which requires both parties' approval to be canceled, but then the bottom runs around with that resignation latter and the top is very scared that the guy would actually resing, then threatens him and binds him with handcuffs. Come on, this just couldn't be more unreasonable, the bodyguard can't resign without breaking the law, the top has no reason for that concern. But the author wanted to use that kind or contract at the beginning to show the top's possessiveness, and then she ignored what she wrote previously to spice things up with that struggle of theirs. Very clumsy...
Well, I'm not sure about the jealousy part of the story, I didn't read that far :)
Anyway, it's a pity that the author didn't put more effort into making the story consistent, but with how the masses eat it without choking, I can see why the author decided to just make money happily without straining their brain power :)

Honestly when i first started reading this i didnt like the plot so much as well. Idk maybe i thought there were plotholes those stuff as u say HMT has. But when i re-read it again but slower I got to say it made more sense. Maybe its just me but i really ended up liking the story more ten-fold maybe pushing the "logic" aside(which seriously the main plot literally is a main charac not having to feel heat except with one dude COME ON wtf is logic even to this comic?? Hahahah). I focused more on the chemistry between the couple and mygwad they have the best and cutest one ive seen in manhwa. Healthy and very well-developed relationship. Just seeing how much they mattered to each other was the thing the shined out to me. How they'd really do anything for each other and that became more apparent in the future chapters.

Really I just love this manhwa too much and I really see why this has a good rating. Its definitely a u thing that ur bugged about what's bothering u on the comic but yeah that's just me

Wow, imagine being sexist in 2021

he got stabbed bruh. I'd cry too

Honestly, never thought i'd see a shit comment like this in bl

Exactly like damn- u want the person to have no emotions or what?

Get stabbed and see if you won't cry.... Staaapid

All in favor of stabbing OP then proceeding to twist the knife in circles to see if they shed any tears??

I'm a girl too, you smart one ^^ though I'm usually not a crybaby. But it's really irritating that they (the authors of cheap bl works) tend to make the bottoms in their stories cry here and there before people without restraint. While the top characters, naturally, don't cry at all, no matter what happens to them.
So, basically, it is somewhat easier for guys to restrain their tears - due to biology or upbringing or both. But, because those bottoms take the "female" role in sex, and it is common and accepted for females to use tears to appear cute and appelling, the authors happily make their bottoms cry here and there nonstop. Even if the bottom's setting is supposed to be that of a touth one, he still won't escape. Oh, there is also this shit with "oh no, wait-wait, stop-stop" - when they are getting harrassed by their tops, while happily wagging their buttholes towards the tops' cocks. How cheap these games are?
And the bl genre is supposed to be a way for women to emagine relashionships without those biased sexistic boundaries. But those authors (the silly and talantless ones, like this one) put their readers only deaper into those boundaries... What a disgrace.

Really soo young tears are mostly due to too much of pleasure. Apart from that, this is the first time he actually cried. Because he got stabbed and it is painful. Not all bottoms cry in BL.... Painter of the night bottom is the only frequent one that I know cry for everything. Which is just how he is.....

While I can see where you're coming from (i.e. BL authors overusing the feminine gay guy stereotype), I think your comment has a lot of internalized mysogamy and gender stereotypes in it and it is definitely worth rereading and unpacking. Also, BL should be about depicting healthy gay relationships in order to normalizes them, NOT for women to fetishize these relationships. There are tons of issues with the BL genre, even this manga in particular. A lot of it centers around how the gay community is being portrayed to have shitty relationships (thus reinforcing the homophobic belief that these relationships are unnatural) as well as turning gay relationships into a fetish - making one character masculine and one feminine is a common trope done for this. Anyway I could write a book about this but I'm sure there are others who have analyzed the genre in detail much better than I ever could.

I read about yaoi and it's history. And yep, it's made by women for women and has very little to do with actual gays :) at least as a whole. In Asia women still have very little of freedom of behaving and expressing themselves, and that is compared to european and american women. But even european and american women still have these boundaries compared to men, though they are far from being as strict...
Of course, it would look more logical to assume that yaoi is about gays but it is not XD gays also have those biases... Like if you're gay you are supposed to behave more like a girl and a girl is supposed to be this and that... Thus they assume behavior that not necessarily their true self... Clothes, speech, mannerism...