Oh come on, there is a plethora of untranslated manga/manhwa/etc that just waits to be translated, why would you upload over someone who’s trying so hard to make this a good translation?
Happened to me when I did upload lol. I upload here and a few minutes later some other sites got my uploads as well not only 1 site there were a few of them so I asked a regular uploader here and they said that there's bots that share the chapters across different websites... I didn't know that so I was putting mangago watermark to ask people to read my uploads here cuz I thought somehow someone was taking my uploads right away and posting it somewhere else.. I only uploaded because I liked the story and want it completed here.. I wasn't expecting it to spread like that
nawh cuz what are these age gaps …
I’m mostly talking abt the chapter with like a literal six yo being paired up with a college student??.. And even if MC and Hatano don’t have a very big age difference (akschually according to the jp system it can be anywhere from 1 to 7 years), Hatano is still a minor and even mentions that MC can go to jail for dating him in that old extra. But at least he DID mention it in the extra and said he’d come back in… 3 years?? which makes me think Hatano is like, 15 and a sophomore . Still, an adult drawing a literal 6 yo falling in love with an adult is fucking weird. Age gaps are absolutely fine but when it’s two developed adult people falling in love. I mean, even my own parents have a huge age gap of 14 yrs but they’ve met when both of them were over 30.
According to the jp system Hatano could be anywhere from 15 to 18 BUT him mentioning that he’s a minor and that he would come back in 3 years makes me think that he’s 15. Even if he’s 16-17, he’s still a child and MC is a full grown adult. I kind of ignored it in the old extra because at least he mentioned it himself and said they shouldn’t date and he’d come back in a few years but now in - what I assume to be - the official chapter he’s just like “Think about it k bye” which makes me go
I think it’s just hella weird to create as an author and to have a mindset to draw it. Like, if they just wanted to create a childhood friend LI they could make a character of the same age like they did before?? Hatano could be someone in MC’s friend group or college, for example. Also given the context of Hatano being a recurring character I’m kind of sussing the MC might reciprocate it one day or smthng. It’s all fun and games but I think in the end it just normalises these types of relationships (speaking from experience)
haven’t watched the live action yet. I think it’s because people in the anime&manga community, esp BL, arent very concerned about weirdly placed age gaps and such, unfortunately. I think the live action makers probably also thought it was weird (and problematic? i don’t know the plot of the live action drama) and changed it.
Some minors end up liking people older than them, that's normal and minors shouldn't be shamed for it or feel weird. What's weird and gross is when adults like minors, which MC has constantly rebuffed Hatano. I don't think it's weird for the author to write something that happens naturally to minors, it's weirder to condemn it like minors should feel shameful for a very natural part of growing up which is a confusing, messy and weird process. If the author makes it so that MC starts having relations with Hatano then yes that's weird.
no i mean it's weird that they're pairing them up in a bl world. idc that the child likes him. it's the fact that we know 100% that that college student will get with him. it would be much better if they had just shown a child around that child's age helping him out rather than someone over 10 years older than them.
I’ve never shamed minors though. I’m shaming the adult author for drawing these types of relationships while essentially trivialising them. MC never goes “holy shit, that’s a child, I should get away from them”, but actually considers this relationship in his own way (rejecting Hatano but NOT because he’s a child). I wholeheartedly agree that adults should take responsibility, but neither the adult author nor the adult characters are taking any in this case. I mean, even people in the comments above all go “Well, it’s not a big age difference, it’s not that serious” because it’s already so trivialised in this community
I think if they made an accent on how weird and nasty it was, I’d agree, but they don’t. If that was their intention, the point doesn’t really get across. Anywayz, I just at least hope Hatano repeats his “I’ll come back in 3 years because I’m still a minor k bye” speech and that will be it o7 (and that they never pair up children with adults again)
My two cents. And ofc I am not saying that I don't think it is gross for adults to be attracted to minors/children. Not everything has to be spelled out for it to be understood or felt. Nor everything questionable turned into an explicit statement. The manga does a good job of doing what it set out to do, as Lizz said. The mc lives in a world full of hazards, where everything could possibly be material for a BL, and not always a good one. Bumping into someone in the streets, being too quiet, being too popular, reading BL, and even talking to a kid. His perspective as someone not participating in the weird logic (like us readers) lets us join in on laughing at these popular BL dynamics and character types. I'm rambling rn, but my point is the manga is less concerned about outright criticizing certain BL relationships than laughing about the whole genre. It's not like "they paired up children with adults" but that it happens in the genre and so it is included in the manga. I don't think it romanticizes anything, nor should we underestimate readers' ability to form their own judgments.
Given the xenophobic and anti-immigrant views of Japan, this feels just… wrong. The aliens speak a different language, they are tall and look different, they’re rude and don’t adhere to local rules - all talking points used when it comes to immigrants, especially in Japan.
While I do understand that there’s a surge in rude TOURISTS in Japan due to the covid restrictions going down, immigrants are still a minority and most of them go through a lot to even come to the country.
So, the two main characters decide to eat and kill aliens for being rude and entitled?.. Also these two literally kill a random group of aliens that haven’t even done anything remotely wrong - they were just walking down the street. Even if you see them as different from immigrants and just aliens, them killing and eating a group of sentient creatures because they dared to walk down the street is hella weird and doesn’t make me sympathetic to them. Also it doesn’t help that most people seem to love aliens and have relationships with them, so clearly these aliens have a level of “humanity”.
I’m not sure about the partner vs. boyfriend part as this’s is a translation but could this be an anti LGBTQ+ rhetoric perhaps? Not sure.
It is a known fact that Japanese people do not like foreigners, in fact they call us "gaijin" in a despective way.
As some old Japanese mangakas tend to do back then, using mangas as a way of communicating some problems of nowadays I an exaggerated way is the same as using Occidental comics to explain the differences in society and using them as some sort of "hate speech".
I do not think this manga is hating a specific group of aliens, it is hating them ALL.
I have spoken about this manga with some more people and they are just transmitting the old "hate you all" that some people in the country feels.
But in the end, it is just a comic, it is fantasy, and I doubt you would like to take fantasy as the teal thing (I do not expect to find giant dragons in real life) so even if it is speaking about a matter in society, its not real.
I suggest you drop this kind of mangas if you are going to take it to heart. No drama intended, just my good feelings to you, because there is no worse way of getting stressed than reading something that make you feel bad.
Btw, liked your comment. Thanks for explaining your feelings and opinion about this! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
The fact that the aliens are being treated the way they treat their own gives foreigners to you? They literally pulled a "aliens apartments only" in Japan they do a "no foreigners allowed". They treat the aliens as gods because they "rescued" them. If anything this resembles colonization.
There are some japaneses nowadays that let foreigners visit, and there are some "foreigner places" so they can go there... But they're not allowed to go "deeper". This is where the resemblance with reality stops.
What I tried to explain is that the story may be based in the feeling that "foreigners are invading us", as such feeling has been transmitted to me from different people due to the cultural difference.
As for the plot, aliens, of course they have colonized the earth and it looks like a big invasion in their face without no shame. It is interesting that they have shared their technology, but the abuse, the media showing places "only for aliens" and how people seem to be delegated to sad poor jobs earning shit, weighs more than any "good intention" or "saving them* as they did in the past. I agree with you xD
And sorry if I have not explained myself correctly, I am not a native English speaker, so maybe I wrote something incorrectly or missed some points of your explanation. Still, thank you for answering (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Oh btw now I understand what you mean about the rethoric with "partner". I am not sure about this, but it could be a perfect simile or just a matter of translation. Seeing that the feeling it gives you is pure rage, it could be possible xD