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I swear the rate of complaining arguing and defending of this s*** is too much like you don't like it don't read it

The term is YAOI HENTAI, but there are two kinds. And this one is clearly for female audience seeing the pretty art style.
The ones for males is bara-style and the ones that are shotaesque.

I tried to look into Bara, it was traumatizing to say the least, thank God for yaoi.

Yeah, bara is kind of... particular...I read somewhere before that bara is meant to be caricatural.

It like people who go to p*rn sides to preach the gospel, like sir this not the place for that go away let others enjoy their sins in peace

The thing is I didn't start with mild ones I went for most hardcore ones with out even knowing what I was getting into, their was no love no story only hairy men who look like gorillas and lot of sht

Thank you girl

Omgoshh, sure it's too much for your first bara, lol. Where did you gon MRM? :'D
This genre isn't meant for women anyway, though there are girls who do enjoy them apparently... There are every kind of gay stuffs, so hopefully we're not forced to like this one. Then there are these with prepubescent boys :/ Thanks now shota is forbidden in Japan.

Yaoi is usually used for works with smut and shonen ai for works without smut, both are gay fiction. So I don't know why people are complaining so much, they are deliberately reading yaoi and complaining about the smut. Make it make sense! If you don't want smut, filter for shonen ai, for fuck's sake.

Yaoi is not for women and bara for men. They refer to different styles. You can have women into bara and men into yaoi. Also, bara is japanesation of "bear", which is gay-speak for a very specific body type, burly and muscular.

Yaoi, the more explicit version of BL, is generally known to be a genre produced by women , which target is women, girls. The art style is often pretty, from shojo to semi-realistic. Shonen-ai is under the embrella of Boys Love, without smut. But of course the other gender, males, can read and like and vice-versa.
I'd say to be careful with the "gay fiction", because in BL and Yaoi even if it depicts homosexual relationships, this is hugely heteronormative with the terme Seme and Uke and that status will remain inchanged for +90% of BL stories.
While in bara and gay hentai, couples are more reversible.

Gay men on Twitter hate yaoi and they hate yaoi fangirls, I haven't meet gay guy in real life who like yaoi, I don't know about Bara.

I am 100% sure the concept of omegaverse was created by female aurther, I wonder what real life gay guys would react to omegaverse

I read a lot of Omegaverse. I'm a cis bi man, btw. Some tropes in yaoi bother me because they are the fetishization of gay men. But you can find good yaoi and bad yaoi, like you can find good stories and bad stories in any genre.

Agree, IRL it's not easy to meet one. I knew a guy IRL who was bi and read BL just once, because he was already into mangas/japanim. I believe there are a lot more online.
On Mangago, Being-You, Jujucat etc are boys.
Even though a lot of BL are heteronormative, there are in (the newer) Manhwa series who have manly bottom (Shutline, Wet Sand, Under the gree Light) that can be attractive for the male audience, and this is refreshing for us who can be tired of the highly heteronormative stuff.

I thought shotesque was primarily targeted at a female audience? Those are the main readers are they not?

@Angel How do you follow me and also have me blocked? what is going on

What I talked here was the shota meant for gay men, with prepubescent boys. Though tbh I don't know much either.
What I've seen throughout my searchs is there are few kinds of shota:

- The one derived from BL with shojo art like Yamato Nase's and CJ Michalski's: I believe these are read by the younger Fujoshis, for them to self-insert into these fantasies with a child or teen-looking Uke/protagonist. Public: hetero females.

- The shota cattered to gay men, with more explicit contents, for gay men to self-insert into these fictions(?) Authors like Hontoku Service Boy had published shotas, before switching to adult protagonists in their yaois/doujins because of the ban of cp in Japan. Public: gay males.

- shota in shojo: the contents aren't explicit and stories look innocent but the ML of these fictions for women are kids, teens, in any case much younger than the FL. Public: hetero females.

- shota in hentai: much younger male protagonist with older women, for the male audience to self-insert into these fictions with onee-san (big sister): hetero males.

So I'd say it's 50/50

fair, thank god that cp shit has been banned. Still accessible though...you can never really remove anything from the internet.

Yeah. Infortunately...
But if the main source where these productions are made is banning cp then that's already a victory in itself, and better late than never.

I don't know if you know the reason for that ban. The ban of cp was following a crime, kidnapping, involving a kid and a pedophile owining cp. That matter had hurt greatly the otaku community because the pedo was also known as an otaku.

Ugh god why is it that a child has to be hurt before people take action! Useless government could've fixed it earlier, the poor kid. -_-

Agree. Even if it was just 1 or 2 cases it was already too much, the Japanese Government should've banned this thing a long time ago. Apparently it wasn't a big deal for people to own cp or for famous artists (Samourai Deper Kyo) to own these books.
Good grief it got shot down.