
Honestly, am not the type of person to leave comments but to see how many people want bum to have an happy ending is probably either too pointless or straight selfish, he wasnt a victim ..probably from the very start..this is that one manga i never read with excitement ..i dont even know how i ended up here but i binge read it just to know how this mad manga ends. Bum was always a sick minded person at least to me, he had that obsession over his teen crush and even killed the girl and his uncle and supported sangwoo thro out all his murders with nothing in his mind other than his selfish need to ALWAYS be with sangwoo. He was literally selfish to the core that he didnt care how many others suffered or what he had to go thro..all he needed was his need to be satisfied.
There can be no other perfect ending for him in my opinion, due to the only fact that bum never had an life even before sangwoo, he had nobody to even look out for him and he would have had no life after him too. He is just too filled with sangwoo and knew nothing other than him that even after he had the ultimate chance to live life, he chose this upon himself.
This is just who he is, and this would have been his end no matter how else it happens.
But like i said, i never had deep interest or liking to this manga, it was just my curiosity that got me to finish it but the last chapter was so amazing.
It was drenched with feelings and emotions.
With sangwoo's spiritual appearance and his faceless memories and how bum felt helpless not being to remember his face.
The damn suspense of the state of sangwoo and what happened to him.
I dont know
It was straight beautiful.
Also, it wasnt a lame death for ending for sangwoo.
He lay there burning while his mom and her words constantly haunted from upstairs where she was buried and he died wanting to live but without anybody to be with him
Nobody even knew of his death and cremation..that is truly painful if we think of it happening to ourselves.
I dont know guys, this is just getting too long but i think the artist put soo much work into trying to bring all this emotions to the end and i respect it if not for the entire manga.
Bum never supported murder, nor did he support Sangwoo's killings. He was clearly disgusted with murder and you could tell that was the main reason he wanted to leave, let alone Sangwoo kidnapping him. Bum was, and always will be, in the wrong for stalking Sangwoo and breaking into his house. But as broken as Bum already was from his uncle raping him and past relationships with peers, this obsession with Sangwoo could not be helped. You don't control your mind, and since Bum was mentally fucked up, he especially couldn't stop those feelings for Sangwoo. When Sangwoo had first captured Bum, Bum felt loved because Sangwoo didn't kill him. Bum was always scared of Sangwoo and disliked the fact that he would beat and hurt him. That is why he wanted to leave. Sangwoo saved Bum when he was being assaulted in the military, which is why Bum fell for him. He thought Sangwoo was nice and caring. Over time, Bum became so disgusted with Sangwoo and murder, he was driven insane which caused him to kill that one girl. As I said, past relationships with peers made him like this. He never wanted to kill her, but she not only was rude and insensitive, she also reminded Bum of the classmate that poured that drink on him. Sangwoo killed Bum's uncle. I'm not saying anyone deserved to die, I actually believe nobody deserves to die regardless of their crime, but Bum's uncle RAPED him. Numerous times. Bum had nowhere to go which is why he made no further efforts to leave Sangwoo after he had killed the girl. He also has Stockholm Syndrome which made things harder for him to hate Sangwoo entirely. All of this is both, Sangwoo's and Bum's fault, but you cannot blame Bum for this. Sangwoo was also raped by his mother, was hurt, and almost killed by her too. His father was abusive too, so you can't always blame Sangwoo for his wicked ways. All of this is cause and effect.
Bum was never shown to be ''clearly disgusted'' with murder and he was most certainly not disgusted with Sangwoo, afraid of him when he was in his fits of anger, yes, disgusted, no. He was not ''driven insane'' because of his disgust for Sangwoo and murder, which ultimately led him to killing the girl in the basement. He had a violent flashback and he killed her in anger. Bum had a lot of repressed anger and had the ability to become just as dangerous as Sangwoo. Had Sangwoo not been caught, Bum not only would not have left him, he wouldn't have gone to the police either and I believe that ultimately he and Sangwoo would've become a team when it came to killings. Remember, Bum had multiple chances to confess that Sangwoo was a serial killer, to ask for help, protective custody, anything. He didn't do it not because he was afraid of Sangwoo, but because he didn't want to.
This is incorrect. It's true Bum had repressed anger, but he wouldn't have killed anyone if he hasn't been put in that position, with a knife in his hands after months of abuse and captivity. Bum dissociated to the point he barely understood what was happening, and he couldn't really control himself when he stabbed Jieun.
Bum couldn't have gone to the police because he was a murderer too and he was afraid. He was aware he couldn't been saved because he killed Jieun. He never supported Sangwoo's murders tho. Do you remember how angry he was when Sangwoo killed his uncle? He didn't want his rapist dead, why do you think he would have been ok with murdering people? Bum loved only the kind Sangwoo, not the serial killer and rapist. And Bum attempted to escape several times in season 1, but after Jieun he hadn't no one and nowhere to go.
This is all conjecture. You don't know what Bum would have done. Bum had a personality disorder that was left untreated all his life, repressed anger, severe trauma and PTSD and Stockholm Syndrome. In my comment I mention that I believe Bum could have turned to crime if he had more time with Sangwoo, because I believe he would have eventually become desensitized to it all and he would've done anything to garner Sangwoo's love and approval. Bum had Stockholm Syndrome, Sangwoo had Lima Syndrome, it was a match made in hell. If they would have had the chance to be together for years, which scenario do you think is more likely? For Bum to have cured Sangwoo of his serial killings, or for Sangwoo, a master manipulator, to use Bum's ''love'' and obsession against him and ''turn'' him? Bum would've done absolutely anything for him. What you and others that staunchly defend Bum forget is that while he was victimized all his life by different people, he was still an ill person with no medical supervision and medical treatment. He was a ticking time bomb. Sangwoo started out as a victim too and look how well that turned out.
I got halfway through writing another giant ass paragraph and was like "Wtf am I doing this manhwa is fucked either way". All Im saying is, Bum never wanted any of this. Sangwoo (and it hurts me so much to say this but) is probably better off dead. I don't entirely love the way he passed but all great things must have an end. This manhwa literally made me hate and love both Sangwoo and Bum at the same time. I feel like none of this would have happened if Sangwoo had better parents lmao.
Oh come on, dont tell me bum wanted to have a date at the park, wanted to treasure the picture they took, wanted sangwoo to fk him and only him as his husband, and even wanted to gift him a ring towards the end just because "he had no choice".
Of course he had Stockholm syndrome and sangwoo was the only person who ever accepted him while the others disgusted at even his sight thro out his life so i get that he took the only hospitality he could ever get, given its also a bonus that he loves sangwoo anyways.
Please dont make it excusable that he had no choice or was a victim his whole life, he definitely was hardcore selfish with both wanting to be with sangwoo, because only for that did he never confess to the police and supported in all his killings. He found a lil comfort in the killings too, he also thought it was the solution for his sufferings or the better way to lose the people who disturbed them.
Also secondly, he was dead selfish when he didnt even choose to float or sink with sangwoo at the end, he literally twisted the story a little bit to the police on how he was the captive THE WHOLE TIME just to escape from the whole mess blaming EVERYTHING on sangwoo, i get it that you would say its the human's nature instinct to survival but thats a shitty feeling okay?
As for sangwoo, he did have a baadddddd childhood but recall how he didnt react as all other children would for the violence that took place at his house, he feel disturbed only at how his mother cried out for help, not at his father's violence.
He was always fked up. Maybe his mother had a better motive to kill her husband cause it was a live or die situation for her.
But sangwoo didnt take it like that, he killed for its pleasure, it was his go to choice when it comes to dealing with anger, people, or stress.
He knew nothing else, its too hard to believe he got it simply from a bad childhood.
It might that He might have developed it throughout the years but remember how he posed his mothers corpse, it was his first ever kill and even then he had the nerve to pull something so horrifying. He and bum had the worst mental state to begin with thats why they took everything that happened to them in the worst way possible.
Then again, yep. This manga is screwed up either ways, but its interesting that someone thought of a story so terrifying and we get a chance to talk about it xD
Of course no one is saying Bum wanted any of it. Even Sangwoo, it wasn't like he daydreamed as a child ''one day, I'll be a serial killer''. Both of them were victims, but both of them were also fucked up. All of the characters in KS were fucked up to some degree. This is one of the reasons I loved it, because it felt realistic, real people are not nice, cutesy, bright individuals all the time, with a fake smile plastered on their face, they are, we are flawed beings with dark hidden depths. Real life at times is, sadly, even more horrific than what was portrayed in KS, and yes, it shows that your environment as you grow up is literally what makes or breaks you. My heart bleeds for the people Sangwoo and Bum could have been had they had a chance to grow up in happy, stable families with people who loved them. A true tragedy.
He found a lil comfort in the killings too, he also thought it was the solution for his sufferings or the better way to lose the people who disturbed them. <- you probably totally missed Bum's reaction to the death of his uncle, HIS LIFETIME RAPIST AND ABUSER, Bum was angry at Sangwoo and he screamed outloud he never wanted it!
How the hell do you totally miss this? He thought Sangwoo was changing, considering he was taking him to the amusement park and stuff, and then he got back to his killing habits.
Plus, Bum is clearly against murder because he refused to kill Seungbae when he had the chance. He could have lived happy with Sangwoo but he actually saved Seungbae twice.
And yeah he had no choice because after Jieun's murder he had nowhere (Sangwoo sold his apartment) and no one to go, since he was guilty and he knew no one could have saved him.
he literally twisted the story a little bit to the police on how he was the captive THE WHOLE TIME just to escape from the whole mess blaming EVERYTHING on sangwoo <- the only blatant lie was that Sangwoo forced him to his home, but he never blamed Sangwoo, not even for Jieun's murder! he could have said Sangwoo killed her, while Bum said she died in the basement - true - but he doesn't remember how - also possible since Bum was dissociating and he could have distorted memories of it.
Okay, it's clear you're really getting agitated about this and you've got no reason to. But. Bum's anger towards Sangwoo killing his uncle was first and foremost because his dirty secret was out in the open. If you go back and re-read, you'll see Bum was desperate for Sangwoo to NOT find out that he was raped by a relative. His reaction to the actual murder of his uncle? Irrelevant. His uncle was his family. He knew him when he was kind and loving and before he became a violent alcoholic. Even if he suffered abuse at the hands of him, Bum still held a sort of warped attachment towards his uncle. And that is also the case with real life victims that have been abused by their family members, when asked about it, almost all of them are steadfast in replying they don't hate their abusers. Sangwoo's parents were horrible abusers, but he never wanted them dead. That's why once his mother died, his mind finally snapped. But I'm gonna stop now, since it seems you have a one-track mind and are deadset on ignoring key aspects of the storyline and characters' motivations and psychology.
I'm not agitated, i'm bothered by the facts people say incorrect things that aren't backed up by FACTS in the comic. Actually it's you are twisting characters motivations out of nowhere. Which dirty secret? Bum was forced to tell him about his abuse which was a big shame for him, but this doesn't mean he was angry for that! he was angry because he never asked for his uncle to be killed! of course he had attachment for him, but i was just replying to another person who said Bum found comfort in the killings which is blatantly false. Show me a scene in the comic where Bum finds comfort in murder.
Actually I have always said that Bum's relationship with the uncle has huge similarities with the one he had with Sangwoo. Both sangwoo and the uncle abused and raped Bum, and both of them were also kind sometimes. It's normal, abusers can love their victims. That's why it's so hard for Bum to escape.
Sangwoo is another case because while it doesn't seem he wanted his parents dead, he didn't show empathy towards his mother being abused by his father.
Before insulting people try to understand what you read, because it seems you lack basic reading comprehension.
You are unbelievably aggressive and hypocritical. I did not insult you first. You did. By using the favored insult of frustrated little girls. ''You lack basic reading comprehension''. aka ''You're stupid, fuck off.'' Ouch, you got me there, I'm so hurt. There have been tons of people on this board with the same opinion of Bum and you argue with all of them. Everyone is wrong, and you're right. That's what you're saying. Which makes you snide and arrogant. You lack the ability the have a polite, mature conversation with someone even if your opinion is different than theirs. Your comments are convoluted and nonsensical. You're arguing with me about things I didn't say. I didn't say Bum found comfort in murder, why are you bringing that up? The ''dirty secret'' part of my comment. It's obvious from your reply that it went completely over your head and you didn't understand what I was getting at. Sounds like you have a problem with reading comprehension. KS has a lot of subtle nuances when it comes to the characters that few get. You are one of the many that don't get them. You have always said that Bum's relationship with his uncle was similar to his with Sangwoo's? Am I supposed to know that? Are you that famous on this board? And last but not least, this little gem: Sangwoo didn't show empathy towards his mother when she was abused by his father. Are you serious right now? His mother was a monster who tried to kill him, and he was abused from a young age by BOTH his parents. Did his mother have empathy for him when she pressed that pillow over his face? When she fucked another man in front her young son? When she tried to poison him? When she raped him fully cognizant of the fact that it would break his spirit? When she cursed him to die a horrible death? But it seems like you're one of those who speak in defense of his mother, so what do you care. You try to sound cultured, knowledgeable of the world and of psychological aspects in your comments, but your train of thoughts when it comes to the characters and their actions is disturbing and toxic. Good luck with that in your life, coz you're gonna need it.
GAAAH.
I CANT ANYMORE.
PLS THROW SOME INSANELY INTENSE SHIT AT ME. T_T
Either yuri or yaoi!
http://www.mangago.zone/r/l_search/?name=Echo+jiro
Read everything by this author.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/darkness_hound/
Can someone please recommend me some reallllyyy good manga like blood bank, Hogu hagyeongsu, finder, how sweet is suga daddy, totally captivated
They are my absolute favourite!
I cant find any like that, the recent mangas are all full of talk and no action..gets super boring. So please recommend a manga! Something with a real stubborn and powerful seme...pleasseeeee ┗( T﹏T )┛
There have only a few times i have sweared out loud, and this is one of them times.