Thought 1: Love?! Did he seriously asked him that? He's clearly hate f***ing you.
Thought 2: You spent all that money on surgeries because you don't know how to use tools. Long broom > bare hand when trying to retrieve key near dangerous dog.
Thought 3: Yep they deserve each other because I hate both of them.
Sorry about that I see what you're talking about. But no one is talking about using the broom and dustpan as weapons to attack the dog. We are saying he should have used it to move the key away from the dog and closer to himself. The dog would have felt intimidated regardless of what approached him. However it's SAFER to have an object get close to the dog rather than your body. I won't care if the dog attacks the broom but I will care if it attacks my arm like it did in the story. That's what make the seme a dumbass.
I think they meant to say that, while yes, he was dumb not to use the broom, it wouldn't have matter if the way the broom was viewed by the dog as being a threatening action & object. It would have attacked the broom, but won't be able to reach the person trying to get the artifact. However, while the distance would have been further, if the dog had been trained (as someone has said) or is a vicious dog, as soon as the chain breaks JunSeo would have to react quickly enough to retrieve the key (grab it from the ground) AND run away. Imagine how difficult it is to sweep a key with a broom through the grass, assuming you're able to get it on the first try, to the exact place or vicinity to be able to grab it. Yes, there's a chance that the dog would not have viewed this action as threatening as a person who approaches at a closer distance, but as far as I know, vicious dogs are vicious and they're already barking at you a mile away. Anyways, if we assume it views the broomstick movement as "less threatening" then it wouldn't have reacted as violently. But let's say that isn't the case, or even if it were, and the dog viewed it to be threatening enough to break free of its chains, then the likelihood of JunSeo's not being bitten relies on how fast he can grab the key AND how fast he can outrun the dog, which depends on both his speed and reaction time, as well as the dog's speed, EVEN with the help of the broomstick.
Either way, it's better to have a small chance of escaping without being attacked than no chance. His choice gave him slim to no of not getting attacked.
But hey, the story is shit. Outside of the seme's stupid decision. Why would the owner leave his aggressive dog in his pen while a stranger is going to clean it? Who would have sex on someone else's property when there are cameras around and the owner hates you? How come no one was monitoring the punishment of a minor with an aggressive dog around? ( -_・)?
IDK about you but I smell a big lawsuit. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Man, the older brother pissed me off. The guy was baring his feelings and trying to address the issues, but the uke got a potential bootie call and bailed on him. Even said the talk was unimportant.
He is so immature and unreasonable. Not justify the younger brother's actions, but he needs hypnosis to become a better person by listening and talking about his feelings, not just starting a fight every time something pisses him off.
We were close to a breakthrough and actually understanding the root of the issue.
Yeah, the little brother's resentment is justified. (Not an excuse for all the r*pe!) I understand wanting to get some payback by being a jerk. Idk why the older brother's such an asshole. Everything I see so far is him being jealous that the younger bro is hot, smart, and popular. Which is a lame and immature reason to be an asshole to someone.
i feel differently. the older brother clearly has an inferiority complex. childish? very much so, however it did stem from when they were literally children.
i do agree that the older brother has been unnecessarily an asshole in many situations, however i feel like it is also understandable to some degree. as i said, he has a clear inferiority complex and simply wants nothing to do with his younger brother. i feel like that should be respected, no? in the beginning his resentment towards his younger brother was completely unwarranted, but you know it is what it is. you aren’t going to have a good relationship with everyone in your life, and that’s ok! that should be the end of, just leave each other be if you don’t get along.
i just feel like you (and also a lot of the other commenters) are forgetting that the younger brother KNOWS what he’s doing. he knows that his older brother does not like him and just wants to be left alone. i suggest revisiting chapter 18. all throughout his adolescent school years, wooyeon has been alone and doesn’t make any friends, which we can assume it is due to bad relationship with his brother. however when he finally does make a friend, we see woojin looking at them with a strange look. it’s clear that he didn’t like it, and in the next scene wooyeon is pushing him
and telling him to piss off. we don’t see the conversation leading up to this particular scene, but i implore you to think about why you think woojin decided to approach wooyeon after seeing him make a friend. especially, why did he approach him in public rather than at home? throughout the manhwa, we can tell that wooyeon is hot-tempered and is quick to react. woojin clearly KNOWS this, which is why he provokes wooyeon, trying to get a reaction. and he gets the reaction he wants. wooyeon blows up in front of everyone at school and gets painted as a jerk. then people trash his things and he blows up once again, this time where his newly found friend would see. this leads to wooyeon being isolated once again. + i feel like the little toy woojin gave to wooyeon instead of the hand cream is a crucial detail, reminding him of what happened the last time he made a friend.
sorry for the super long reply, i just feel so passionately about this because i feel like this is manipulation 101!! and i’ve just been seeing so many comments angry at the older brother for not wanting to communicate with his younger brother. i DO agree that communication would fix a lot of their issues. however, i have to ask, would you want to sit down and try to talk to someone who you know has been manipulating you and everyone around you, to completely isolate and make you miserable for years on end? i don’t think i would. and i believe we can say wooyeon knows of this social manipulation as he says in the latest chapter that the sunbae “is different” and “didn’t fall for woojin’s lies”.
TLDR; my point is, woojin is a textbook manipulator. i don’t understand why people are angry at wooyeon for not wanting to communicate with his abuser.
Well, yeah, it's obvious he's a manipulator. He's hypnotizing his brother to f**k him. He's no saint. Honestly, there are no good guys in this story. Plus, it's obvious he's always had a crush on him. That's why he doesn't like him with other dudes, especially assholes like the guy in your example from their childhood.
I think a lot of ppl have the mindset that you need to get along with family. You have to have their back, and they need to have your back. Otherwise, it's betrayal. I think just leaving him alone is kinda difficult considering they live in the same house. Of course, step siblings are a little different, but a lot of children without siblings like the idea of having a sibling once their parents get married. I'm sure he was crushed to find out his new sibling hated his guts. Of course, being petty, he took his revenge the best way he knew how. Making the guy make himself the asshole.
Personally, yes, I would talk to people when I have ongoing beef with them. But then again, that's my personality, and I don't handle anger/conflict very well. Plus, I'm mature enough to know the person that blows up is the one that looks the worst to onlookers. I even check in with people to make sure everything is good work us. I've settled conflicts to the point that I've become friends with past enemies. I've learned that if a person doesn't want to squash it something is wrong with that person to refuse to let go of that anger.
BTW if I haven't made this clear enough, I think both brothers are assholes. Especially the younger brother because there's no excuse for what he's doing.
it really isn’t that hard to leave each other be despite living in the same house. i say this from personal experience!
being “mature enough” does not have much to do with blowing up. the thing about manipulation is that your level of maturity does not matter. a good manipulator will figure out what makes you tick and act on it. it’s all psychology! but besides this, from your third paragraph on, i think you are misunderstanding the situation. being able to have a conversation with someone you have beef with is not equivalent with wanting to have a conversation with your abuser .. resolving petty conflicts is not the same. i think you are unintentionally making this equivalence and coming to that conclusion comes across a bit ignorant. i don’t know if we will have the same understanding of this topic, but i can see that you believe both characters are bad, i agree! so i’m just going to leave this conversation at that! c:
Well, regarding family, I think it depends on the environment/culture/personalities. Your family or environment may not emphasize being together and spending time with each other. My household we had to spend time with each other, and from that, everyone had a close bond.
Maturity is an aspect of blowing up. As you get older, you are supposed to be in more control of your emotions. The older brother has shown zero signs of being able to resist the urge of having a tantrum. If you think yelling at someone or throwing punches immediately after someone did something you didn't like is okay. That's immature. That's shouldn't be your initial response. Plus, he knows how his brother manipulates him, and he falls for it each time. You can get away with it as a kid, but the dude is an adult, and he still blows up after every little thing. Use another strategy to react because you're playing in his hand. No one makes you do anything. You are in control of your own actions. (Minus the brainwashing parts lol)
I know that the younger brother is abusive from the audience point of view, but I'm struggling to see the older brother's perspective of him being abusive. The main issue for that is that the story has not developed enough to show us his perspective of their past. He very immaturely ignored the opportunity to lay everything out on the table to say this is why I hate you when his crush called and brushed his brother off. But you know the power of boners is strong. Therefore, I don't know how abusive he was and in what way. That's why I brought up having a conversation with someone you have beef with because we don't know how this started. Wars have started over small issues. All I know is that the older brother claims that he's manipulative. I need more information because I don't trust his perspective of things. He might be misunderstanding something.
Also, ease up on the comment section on voicing their anger towards the older brother. They are reacting from the events of the latest chapter. No one is likeable. Next week, there will be more comments about how abusive and evil the younger brother is. In this story I'm not rooting for anyone. I'm just a spectator.
read the first sentence of your second paragraph and i already knew you were simply unable to comprehend anything i’ve spent the time to type out lol. it comes off ignorant and that you clearly have no understanding of abuse,, manipulation, or even the basics of psychology. also i never condoned the older brother physically assaulting the younger brother during his blow-ups. not once. i only said that he reacted given the manipulation. read to understand! this is will be my final reply. we will not see eye to eye, i have accepted it xD
Yeah... At some point, I need an explanation. So Nux is part alien and Owen recognized him immediately. I'm assuming they're mates but Nux never got the memo. Just how powerful is the OG Owen over the others? How did Owen get pregnant? What's the relationship like between all the Owens? They're all the same being and share the same experiences but they get jealous of each other? Why are those 2 Owens together managing a university while everyone else are doing different jobs in different galaxies?
So my understanding is:
Owen's species isn't all that huge, so him going across the entire chunk of universe and running into someone that has the same blood as his means he is breedable, but Owen imprinted on him because he was (same species+attractive to him+make him jizz and now they're mated??), so it sounds like Nux accidentally took part in a mating ritual with Owen without realizing it.
I think OG Owen might be the only one that can actually make copies of himself.
It looks like - given all the pretty colors that tend to show up whenever they are getting it on or turned on, Owen's species reproduces it a zanny way that we will find out about...NGL, kinda expected Nux to get preggo, but this manga is kinda turning into a Reverse!Omegaverse where Omega get pregnant but also top, and I'm here for it.
Sounds like all the Owens are linked through their minds and bodies in some way, but they all have distinct personalities, memories, and goals - sometimes they overlap, like with then all trying to aggressively bone Nux, but they are for sure unique individuals who all want to be the one actually getting Nux to do what they want rather than passively experiencing it. It was just less clear because Own and Asp are identical, but now that we have Military Daddy Owen and his....distinct tastes (lol) around, as well as his brief explanation on their connection, I think it's going to be more clear where they overlap and differ soon.
About the 2 Owens together: My own theory that has little to no evidence to support it: I think they are both there because the university is working on something essential to why there are so many Owens. They might be making another gate, or perhaps they have a hand on why Nux was born (given the fact that Nux has zero clue to his heritage, even though his species might have a unique way to reproduce). They need two Owens both pretending to be the same Owen so they can do some sneaky spy shit and figure out whats going on at the university that they weren't aware of...
At least he doesn't want to die anymore. One step in a good direction. (^-^;)