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How is it rape? I'm genuinely asking btw

The alpha is drunk and the omega isn’t. The omega planed on taking advantage of the situation the whole time. And then of course the alpha will be black out drunk so he’ll only remember bits and pieces but will have never have actually consented to being the bottom. It’s literally rape by this alone. Alcohol is the NUMBER ONE date rape drug.

OH GOD, I really haven't finished the second story so I didn't know that THAT happens. I- wow,

But how is the first story rape? I mean the two parties agreed, kei (i think that was his name) is technically working as a prostitute but still gave his consent.

If someone kidnaps your and is holding you against your will. If you say yes to sex it’s coercion because it’s quid pro quo meaning you’re being forced to do something in exchange for something else. Sex consented under conditions like this mean rape or dubious consent at the bare minimum. As the omega actually can’t say no can he when he’s under the impression he’s being blackmailed to pay off his debt or be violently raped by the first group of alpha’s who threatened him more upfront about what they would do to him. What’s insulting is the main alpha had witnessed the omega be raped before in highschool, acts as if he’s better than the omega’s previous abusers, but is in fact worse than all of them giving the omega the fake impression of freedom which is crueler

:O I really didn't of that, thank you for explaining it to me. I'm honestly pretty dumb when it comes to this unless it's really obvious (like having sex with a drunk person)

Don't think of that*

my issue with it, people praising things when they're literally the same situation just reverse. It's such a double standard you can't complain about rape in the first story but then love the second story. It's all the same sexual violence.

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In case u didn't know, nothing happens u dumbass. Stop jumping to conclusions smh.
The omega doesn't force the alpha to do anything.

And you’re the dumbass who didn’t learn sex Ed. You can’t consent to sex if you’re drunk. Just because you want to excuse this shit doesn’t meant it’s rape in actuality.

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You like this shit no problem I don’t give a fuck. I’m educating someone who clearly wanted to know what’s wrong with this plot otherwise.

First of all, you jumped to a conclusion just like OP did by saying that this will be another rape manhwa,,, it is NOT. Obviously, anyone with a brain would think that someone intoxicated to the max who doesn't have a conscious mind, and having sex with someone else (who is totally conscious and not having consent from the other party) is rape. There's no need for sex ed to know that.

If the relationship starts off with rape it’s doesn’t detract from you or anyone else enjoying it if that’s blatantly stated. This isn’t some jumping conclusion. We just saw and read the sober party wait till their “prey” was drunk to pull a move. What did Op say that’s was wrong then? If there’s no other rape besides this drunken encounter that is to happen fully next chapter that doesn’t change that it still happened. That the characters will fall for each other, be tricked, or even be forced or if none of that happens at all is besides the point. Rape still happened. That sets the tone for the rest the plot. The fact that it’s played out for laughs is whatever I’m not even mad more do I care it is what it is. It comes with the territory of omegaverse. It’s rather a double standard that an alpha raping an omega is an issue but an omega tricking an alpha into sex specifically into a sexual position the alpha doesn’t verbally consent to in their first encounter is apparently no issue to the same crowd.

And being conscious while having sex has nothing to do with having still not been raped under the influence of alcohol. I can literally give you police reports, academic articles, and court cases if you don’t understand why this is rape or more importantly alcohol being a factor. If both of them were drunk this would be an entirely different story and be simple drunk hookup. We don’t have that here and you know that.

????? What are you talking about??? You ain't making sense in that first sentence lmao,, BECAUSE,,, I stated that if the party that is being raped not aware of what's HAPPENING bc of the alcohol (meaning they're not conscious of their own surroundings cuz they drunk af) while the other party is totally conscious (knowing what they're doing while not having consent), then it is rape.
So, yes, it does have to do with this bc that's what we're talking about??? About how alpha boy is totally drunk off his ass while the omega is sober. Therefore, as stated before, NO rape HAPPENS in this scene. He gets SOBER and LEAVES. Get that through your head lmao. And what OP said IS wrong bc they said "this is gonna be another rape story" when it is NOT.

And that’s what I’m saying but also not what I’m saying. I fully understand what you’re saying, as for the next chapter it’s played off for laughs. My commentary on what omega attempts to do and the lack of consent still stands. I understand he doesn’t rape him but the scene is rape intended. The omega has every intention of raping him using the conditions I’ve mentioned multiple times. That he doesn’t get to follow through so the gag can happen doesn’t change the point. I’ll concede that he doesn’t follow through only because it’s more “funny” more than anything else. But this sets the tone as I’m pointing out as then after pressures the alpha routinely and then becomes their dynamic there after. The whole rape, co out rape what ever you want to call it is my frustration. I think what’s happening is miscommunication then of you’re seeing it as inconsequential because it’s for jokes, and I’m annoyed at that very point of the authors handling the situation.

Aight, now you making sense. Yes, sadly that does happen in a lot of manga and such. Probably making young people think that it's fine, when it's not. And, this scene, the omega did have such an intention, but thankfully, he doesn't force the alpha to do anything (the alpha only left bc he wasn't ready to bottom lmao, otherwise he would've stayed).
Heads up, the rest of this manhwa is all consent and one scene with enduced horny-ness by pheromones. But, all smut scenes are with them sober.

Wasn't my intention to have an argument but glad we cleared the confusion. Thanks i've seen the raws. I'm sure others will enjoy it. I personally intend to skip this 2nd story entirely. I'm not a fan of the manipulative /pushover dynamic trope as it stands regardless of the 'rape' mockery. It's too cliche for my taste. I'll just wait for the 3rd couple as they actual are an equally dynamic and versatile relationship. An actual breath of fresh air.

Yeah, that's fine. Glad we cleared it up too.
I personally haven't read the 3rd one only bc the art style really wasn't my taste. But, I might read it once they upload it on here in english.

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I don't understand Chinese (except for few words) but after seeing raws I believe demon lord threatened to do exactly that, because Ye Li didn't try to run away anymore

I’ve spent all of the love I saved
We were always a losing game
Small town boy in a big arcade
I got addicted to a losing game

All I know, all I know
Loving you is a losing game

I actually like it because it's always the girly one who bottoms and I too am tired of it.

Exactly, it's almost ALWAYS the smaller man on the bottom!

Noooooo... it is hot seeing a big dude panting... tmi... sorry

Well to me it’s kind of refreshing as in 90% of the mangas the small pretty one is the uke

Yesss! That's why I welcome authors who draw (only) buff guys as bottom, we don't have nearly enough of them compared to the 'girly bottoms'.

Then i would rather read some straight smut manga since the girly one always bottoms. And moans like a girl.

That is the author style. And that is what he/she will be known for.

custava nada o grandão ser quem come :S

damn guess i'll drop this one

Let me just state for the fujoshi record, I am willing and able to read any and all smutty ass hot, don’t care what they look like, yaoi manga.....