victoria April 19, 2021 10:03 am

Story that actually has potential: *inserts rape that isn't crucial to the plot whatsoever and mc's would still form a relationship without it*.... ah-

Ain't nothing wrong with people enjoying a fictional rape fetish but (personally) it belongs in just porn stories and not stories that actually want to have a good plotline with a developed relationship, because otherwise it's just lazy writing and a quick, lazy way to get the main characters together. I (again personally) don't like rape tropes that romanticise abuse, so I do drop stories if it happens unnecessarily, but it's such a shame because there are amazing manhwa's and mangas that get ruined because of it

Understandable that there's people who enjoy rape plots or whatever and it's great you have something to cater to you, but I wish it wasn't so common in the yaoi genre to have love born from abuse. Like is there really no other way the author can get the relationship started????

    JayMooch April 19, 2021 1:31 pm

    you literally see so many stories with r@pe being romanticized, like i wish it wasn't regulated in a story- You see, you have those stories where someone gets r@ped, but it wasn't by the love intrest/lover/mc's future lover/so on. But it also gets romanticized so often where the love grows off of it.

    Quicksilver April 20, 2021 2:22 am
    you literally see so many stories with r@pe being romanticized, like i wish it wasn't regulated in a story- You see, you have those stories where someone gets r@ped, but it wasn't by the love intrest/lover/mc's... JayMooch

    It's supposed to be romantic, you nit.

    Quicksilver April 20, 2021 2:32 am

    It's as offensive as it gets to tell the fans of this author that it's not up to her if she wants to write a story about rape.
    You don't get a say in what an author wants to write and draw. That's stupid

    JayMooch April 20, 2021 2:38 am
    It's supposed to be romantic, you nit. Quicksilver

    i didnt mean it offensive or anything- Its just its regulated and just SOMETIMES i just want a feel good story. if i didn't want to read stuff with rape in it at all i wouldn't be reading this and actually enjoying the story- also please i love how blunt you are-

    Quicksilver April 20, 2021 3:03 am
    i didnt mean it offensive or anything- Its just its regulated and just SOMETIMES i just want a feel good story. if i didn't want to read stuff with rape in it at all i wouldn't be reading this and actually enjo... JayMooch

    Okay, lol. sorry. no offense taken by this offensive bastard who is sitting here talking to you. If you know some good feel-good stories, let me know. I feel the same way.

victoria April 19, 2021 6:23 am

seungho... you're still an insufferable asshole but I suppose I'll hold off the pitch forks for now

victoria April 18, 2021 11:27 pm

this is the loveliest, heart warming and HEALTHIEST thing I've read in so long I love all of the characters so much

victoria April 16, 2021 4:47 pm

I really want a salix and sunbae side story idk I think they'd be so cute together

victoria April 16, 2021 11:19 am

can't lotus just leave some of his technology so they can communicate?

victoria April 9, 2021 4:54 am

Y'all keep forgetting Jeha isn't meant to be a nice person or have nice morals. He uses people in his line of work and as shitty as it is, it's just his reality and all he knows. mongryong can handle his own but it'd still be nice to see Jeha rescuing him, beating up the greasy old man and obviously realising how wrong his thought process was and to repent

Mongmong remains my favourite character ever though

victoria April 9, 2021 4:37 am

I really, really appreciate people translating this but since the plot is incredibly multifaceted and a bit hard to follow sometimes, PLEASE wait for the official translations to catch up! You can read the ones already released on tappytoon :) Although I massively value translators etc. it's not much different to just reading the raws if you can't follow the story because the translated text is off.

(And yes, I already do support the author so don't come at me saying I have no right to complain for reading illegally).

    victoria April 9, 2021 4:40 am

    this manhwa has quite a history of bad translations and it's kind of ruining the reading experience of those who read it here. I bought the chapters after finding this on here but so many people get turned off by choppy translations and then won't go buy the chapters

victoria April 9, 2021 4:25 am

If someone could clarify - did the owner really turn Phi into a prostitute when he was just a child??? Surely that kind of abuse and psychological manipulation hasn't allowed Phi to heal from his traumas AT ALL and has just created this warped ideal of sex and how much he actually wants to be there, doing that job?

    Aphrodites bitch April 9, 2021 4:52 am

    The owner didn't force anything on him. It was his father who did it to him as a child. The owner saved him and gave him a choice. The owner is amazing *chef's kiss* Where I do understand he has a warped idea of sex... it does vary per person & he isn't doing anything he doesn't want. He's a very strong person.

    victoria April 9, 2021 4:56 am
    The owner didn't force anything on him. It was his father who did it to him as a child. The owner saved him and gave him a choice. The owner is amazing *chef's kiss* Where I do understand he has a warped idea o... Aphrodites bitch

    But he gave that 'choice' to a 13 year old, no? At least that's what I took from the story. If so, that's disgusting

    kzimotra April 9, 2021 5:08 am
    But he gave that 'choice' to a 13 year old, no? At least that's what I took from the story. If so, that's disgusting victoria

    No no no he waited until he is a adult and when phi tried to suck him off he stopped him too :(

    YaYaMae April 9, 2021 5:25 am
    But he gave that 'choice' to a 13 year old, no? At least that's what I took from the story. If so, that's disgusting victoria

    Uhh...what do you expect him to do? Phi was already adjusted to thinking those things were not big deals and owner isn’t a shrink. He has his own ideals about what sex is (freedom, happiness, fun). So I think owner at least tried to change how he saw the act of sex rather than using It as a weapon against him

    Aphrodites bitch April 9, 2021 3:17 pm
    Uhh...what do you expect him to do? Phi was already adjusted to thinking those things were not big deals and owner isn’t a shrink. He has his own ideals about what sex is (freedom, happiness, fun). So I think... YaYaMae

    Exactly !! Obviously the owner is not a bad person. He saved him and he didn't force anything. He's a godsend!

    victoria April 9, 2021 4:41 pm
    Uhh...what do you expect him to do? Phi was already adjusted to thinking those things were not big deals and owner isn’t a shrink. He has his own ideals about what sex is (freedom, happiness, fun). So I think... YaYaMae

    y'all are so weird trying to justify child prostitution

    victoria April 9, 2021 4:43 pm
    No no no he waited until he is a adult and when phi tried to suck him off he stopped him too :( kzimotra

    this is what I was looking for! Because as I read it I was unsure if the owner waited until he was an adult or just sent him straight into sex work. If he was an adult - fair enough - if he was still 13, that's disgusting

    YaYaMae April 9, 2021 4:52 pm
    y'all are so weird trying to justify child prostitution victoria

    What are you even saying? Phi was already a prostitute. Owner didn’t do anything. And the chapter clearly said wherever they are is not a place friendly to the homeless. So you’re upset that owner took him in?? Because no where did It say that he told Phi to take on clients/work and that Phi had assumed that was what he needed to do since he was being taken care of...which is why I said his thinking was already warped. Owner did nothing wrong

    Ambrosia April 9, 2021 5:21 pm

    Hello! I found some info about the translations that may help clear things up. There are some summaries online for these chapters, and in chapter 8 there's a part where Phi talks about how he took some clients to repay the owner and even tried to suck off the owner, and the owner stopped him and sat him down to have a talk. These summaries mention that the owner told Phi what a 13 year old can and can't do. In the Russian translation that we're using, this same part was translated as the owner explaining what is and isn't allowed in Shangri-La. I think a bit of it was lost in translation, but based on the summaries online, it can be assumed that the owner explained how sex and prostitution wasn't alright for a child like Phi. It doesn't explain exactly when Phi started working for the owner, but I'm assuming it was after he was grown up based on the owner's negative reaction to Phi trying to take clients and the translation that I mentioned. Again, no timeline is explicitly mentioned, but I hope this helps a little!

    Aphrodites bitch April 9, 2021 5:22 pm
    this is what I was looking for! Because as I read it I was unsure if the owner waited until he was an adult or just sent him straight into sex work. If he was an adult - fair enough - if he was still 13, that's... victoria

    That isn't the case whatsoever but if tjat's how you feel about it then don't read the manga. And don't ruin it for others due to your misunderstanding.

victoria April 9, 2021 4:16 am

I know Phi 'likes' his job and his home so I feel bad wishing he and Apollo could become a couple. I currently don't see how - if they did get together - they'd work in that sense because Apollo values that one person and monogamy, but Phi doesn't see sex as that constricting and it feels like he's more poly? so I feel like they'll be experiencing a lot of hurt on both sides before they reach a healthy point in their (hopeful) relationship

    babu April 9, 2021 4:42 am

    right?? and Phi doesn't quite get that consent applies to the whole partnership not just sex. Multiple partners or one... you need to ask if they're okay with it.

victoria April 6, 2021 4:01 am

Everyone hates the 2nd couple but I really like it. They had a rough start but an alpha x alpha pairing is so refreshing to see. Plus I love the brother's character and wanna see more of how he opens up

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