⁺✧Ridora✧⁺'s Questions (112)

Exactly!! It’s not even enemies to lovers it’s straight up Stockholm syndrome. There’s nothing romantic about someone ending up with their abuser and I’m sick and tired of people hyping up and popularizing abuse stories. They also say it’s toxic like no that straight up abuse. Toxic relationships only work if they’re both toxic, not when someone’s getting brutally raped by the other. (⊙…⊙ )

So many of these authors writing abilities are straight up fried, they prioritize those scenes instead of good sensible writing and the worst part is that it works (a huge amount of ppl read it i mean). Its gotten much better than it was years ago but its still rough

I genuinely feel like I can't escape this trope its like EVERYWHERE

exactly omg. I swear 90% of the story's these days are becoming abuser x victim or just rapist x victim(basically the same thing), and the story's don't even have a half decent plot, its all just trash with a trash plot and a trash trope. I really wish people would stop producing story's like this and we could go back to the days where this wasn't such a big issue, but unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon. I also wish more people would stop consuming and enjoying things like this which is also contributing to the mass production of story's with plots like this. I seriously hate this all so much and just want to be able to enjoy story's again without having to encounter rape or abuse.

It pains me cause I used to be SUCH a huge #1 stan of enemies to lovers like that was MY SHIT but saying that nowadays feels like a crime and people confuses it, mishears it as "yes I love seeing the person who just made the other persons life a living hell get with them and become a sweetie pie out of nowhere" like NO I LOVE RIVALRY THATS IT, ACADEMIC RIVALRY EVEN

Because it IS everywhere let's not lie

If you are interested in this manhwa I tend to promote it kinda has enemies to lovers forbidden love trope
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/sangyang_the_wanderer/

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/sakurada_senpai_kaizou_keikaku/

Thanks pookie

Collar Kiss
Kimi no Ahimoto de Ai wo shiru (my fav)
Sugar to Mustard (not exactly subverse but similar)
Kocchi Muite Glare

Zettai, Fukujuu Meirei
Forgot to include it

Read them all cause I'm a freak for them but all if this is peak

I think subverse is lacking manga/manhã etc it's a shame cuz I also love them

Oh realll, its better then omegaverse too ngl

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/collar_kiss/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kocchi_muite_glare/

WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FREAKING HELL WAS THIS

SORRY IT WAS THE ONLY ONE I COULD THINK OF THAT WAS BDSM

I'm actually traumatized, you have no idea

ts is so buns but it fits what ur asking for so here ig
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/obscene_phone_call/

Ch4
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/club_renew_housoushitsu_wa_yari_heya_the_broadcasting_fuck_room_eng/

omg i beat my shit to this like twice a month i love this author

girl

i think we getting a little too comfortable on the internet

saying that w that username is crazy

I will continue your legacy queen, trust

Thanks Queen

appreciate it never end the cycle

lmao thanks but like Queen said so boldly, I also just wanna beat my shit so whatever's necessary

tmi i just read that one and i just finished it and wow you will love ir

Yeah its kinda good but idk if its lust is taking over me fr

OMG BYE

the first ch was okay its just that the semes lwk cringe asf "heh ik some dark psychology" ahh ml

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/baby_sugar_succubus/

I love this author + this story too, thanks tho

(=・ω・=)…
What

The question is how THICK it is? Lmao

big dick propaganda smh

We got big dick graduated expert over there

I know for real you got a big one twin

depends on the girth and where it's going ngl

The bigger the better!

Like my pookie Lau from Sangyang:The Wanderer has a penis as tall as him

are u speaking from experience ho cus imo...

right..

trying to decipher ur tone makes me feel like a stereotypical hacker in a crime movie "now if i do this.. ill get into the dataframe.. haha! easy

BRUH STOPPP i was js tryna side w u bro DAMN

YOU SAID "right.." MDR HOW AM I MEANT RO KNOWW SKAJAHA

oh shoot damn i read this wrong i thought u were tryna say i'm the hacker MY BAD GNG LMFAOOO fuck

Im acc crying so bad bro my ass would NOT push my glasses up my nose and call u a hacker im DEAD

IM GONNA FOLLOW U HOME NOW

whipped my head around like u were behind me

follow me back gng i'm quite funny too aha

brother get up off ur knees jesus christ

my brother in christ i accidentally deleted your message my bad bruh LMFAO lemme send a message back

Nah, length is definitely important if you don’t want your cervix getting hit. I can’t barely get through a pap smear lmao. I actually remember an interview with the guy with the world’s longest dick which we are for some reason keeping track of. He said there were girls who’d sleep with him out of curiosity and they hated it because of how big it was.

Oh that's interesting ╮(￣▽￣)╭ I'm not a girl tho hehe but yeah I get your point (づ￣ ³￣)づ

me w those isekai manhwas that are actually godd but evetyonr just calls tjem trash bc of one thing that the fl did that was "stupid" or wtv when its such a reasonable thing to do in her situation like WHAT do people not get that we arent the characters but the readers???? And its just ONE thing that the fl did that led to a bad rating when its such a masterpiece like ong and the ones that get good ratings from these types of people are the most BASIC most frustrating type of stuff to read like what ?????

Yeah jinx comment section all the time

Those are just mentally deranged people.

They always have the most basic repetitive opinion and people are still sucking their d because of it, they can't bother forming a thought of their own about a story that they just read, sometimes I wonder if they didnt just skip to the scene everyone talks about to complain about it too lmao.

for sure

Me with every bl story with a toxic ML, they be doing cartwheels trying to explain why the bad guy is the MC and not the (usually) r@pist

The victim blaming is real in yaoi

When people start calling the ML a green flag, forgetting the fact the character's first meeting was when the ML assaulted MC. -> Jaeshin...

Fr I was re-reading Love is an illusion and the amount of hate Hyesung got was crazy like you saw his backstory and everything he’s going throught right now so his reactions are appriote with how he’s reacting since he never got professional help Σ(っ°Д °;)っ

Pearl boy’s apologists lol they glaze it so hard

Nah ong They be hating on him then go straight to licking the ML’s nuts like hes all that

hidoku shinaide.
this foolishness been going on for years like im tired.

funny I was talking abt this one lmao. Since it got popular again bc of the sequel I be fighting for my life in the comment sections defending him from their stupidity and victim blaming

When people shout "OMG RED FLAG" over a character flow that makes them more human. Like let them make mistakes and be imperfect?? Otherwise how are they going to have a character development.. i hate those picture perfect characters who does nothing bad and everything they say is right. For me, it makes them lack personality and so unmemorable.

And when comments can't understand morally grey characters like it always should be either black or white for them.

Ps: I'm not talking about rapists who are that for no reason and only to make mc and ml have sex and then forget about it

This is exactly what inspired me to write this question, I hate it when people immediately shout "red flag" especially when it doesn't even apply at all. It's so easy to throw shade at the character but not easy to try and understand them, I know not every story needs analyzing to a degree, not everyone takes seriously a complex character, but if you're not even making an effort don't even suggest utter the words "red flag" and reduce a character to only that. People like that are so insufferable and I wonder why they read in the first place.

OMG RIGHT like youre not even 50 chaps into the story and youre making judgements alr...

Its 5 but these, also Moritat is just brain damage so feel free to read that as well if you want a confusing story that no one has the answer to lol

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/sleeping_dead/ https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/gokurakugai/ https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/papa_x_papa_to_de_sorezore_yattemasu/ https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/totsukuni_no_shoujo/ https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/baraou_no_souretsu/

Sleeping Dead
Goodbye Nameless Violin
Ito-San

Sorry, Itou-San

Thanks ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

Thank you (〃'▽'〃) i'll put moritat on hold tho

“No home” and “dream away” !

Tokyo Shinjuu (totempole)!! underrated imo
seconding Sleeping Dead and No Home (but i think you already read it maybe?)

Dream away
Goodbye, Nameless Violin
Love gym

I've heard if no home and since it's my favorite author I plan to read it soon but not now since it has way too many chapters and dream away seems cute I'll read it, thank you<33

Sleeping dead is definitely 1rst to read on my list since many people are recommending it lmao thank you (▰˘◡˘▰)

That’s fair! Definitely would need to free up an entire day or two for no home lol but it is very easy to binge

I'm actually reading love gym rn and it's kinda cute, i'll read dream away as 2nd since it's been recommended twice and I might check out nameless violin thank you tkook pookie (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Yeah but I wanna take my time ( I barely finished read their other work "room #305") i've been kinda in a reading slump sadly I can barely read stuff that has more than 60 chapters but i'm trying ☹

Omg that’s so real I have a rlly short list of things that take less than an hour to read if u wanna check that out <3

Oh thank you I followed, i'll check out some things, it also seems i've already read some good amount, it's a good list really thank you again love<33 (▰˘◡˘▰)

Anything by Cheingtak honestly

Show me some of their work pls :)

Ah damn, I just noticed you've added this to your list
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/midnight_rain_ctk/

Here's another
'Koi ga Ochitara by Ueda Aki'

I already have them both and I love them so much, thank you tho :3

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/joou_to_shitateya/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/otoko_yamome_mo_hana_ha_saku/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/wadatsumi_no_yometori/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/old_fashioned_cupcake/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/tonari_ni/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/koko_wa_yes_to_ittekure/

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/coffin_jackson/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/on_doorstep/

I highly recommend doorstep if you haven’t already read it

Oh thank you, some of these I need i'll check it out also

maybe you can find it here -
https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/tags/butlers

Thank you ig ╥﹏╥

Is it this?

Bamford Koushakuke No Shitsuji
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/bamford_koushakuke_no_shitsuji/

No... (╯︵╰,)

Maybe the old guy was actually a cleaner, idk I barely remember but he was definitely working as a housekeeper for the guy like washing stuff bro.

ohh maybe you'll find it here then -
https://www.anime-planet.com/users/AnnaSartin/lists/housekeepers-in-bl-132111

Bro is this shit the one piece? It's not there either lmao, but thank you for the housekeeper list, I love those I seriously need to find the story or else i'm gonna lose my damn mind.
What's worst is I thought I definitely kept it in my notes/lists but I didn't find it, it was definitely a manga since I think it had a Japanese name.

I hesitate to say this, but you can filter out stuff better on MRM

oh damn, well good luck finding it

I'm not going there it'll take 500+ awful cheap yaoi porns to get to what I want no matter how much I filter stuff, it's a very short unpopular manga too.

I give up （/TДT)/

Do you remember anything about how they look or age range of the butler? Was it updating when you were reading it or was it possibly an abandoned series? Older men are my favorite and I might have it hiding in the abyss of things I've read on another site.

Okay so, the older guy looked kinda tired, white hair and I think the other guy was tall with dark hair or brown? I don't remember, the old guy wasn't those super tired old guy but just chill??? He's not too old.

It sounds so familiar. I'm going to do a deep dive in my lists later to try to find it. I'm curious now, too!

Please and thank you so much, you give me hope and faith to continue searching for it too (┳Д┳)

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/urekko_model_to_kaseifu_san/ this one maybe

the dude here is a super star and he keeps asking his old housekeeper to stay for longer and the old dude is like r u gna pay me overtime? im pretty sure its the one ur looking for

OH YESS YESS YOU YES YOU I FUCKING LOVE YOU, THANK YOU SOO MUCH BRO I BARELY REMEMBERED WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE THANK YOUUU, I WISH I COULD FUCKING KISS YOU, I'M SO HAPPY o(╥﹏╥)o(づ￣ ³￣)づ

OMG YAY IM GLAD(⌒▽⌒)

old man + unique artstyle sounds like a manga by Naono Bohra, I only found this oneshot
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/zurui_otoko_crafty_man/

It's not that but it's okay, thanks for trying :)

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_gym/ (this one had such a scene I remember)

Thank you lovely (≧∀≦) i've heard of it, i'll check it out mwah<333

Np <333

Phone sex -

ANTI P.T.
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/anti_p_t/

Love Me Doctor! - in the side stories i think
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_me_doctor/

also -
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/726576/

Thanks! (≧∀≦)