Quicksilver August 19, 2020 6:40 pm

It kills me how close this is to other manga/wha and yet none of the puritans are raving about lack of consent and rape in this. It shows the inconsistency of a lot of misguided beliefs of new readers of yaoi. I wouldn't count this as rape between Mookyul and Ewon, but why are the fanatics in here not raving to the moon that Mookyul raped Ewon?
I love this, read it many years ago, then again, and then this gorgeous webtoon. Now, the seme in Put On A Smile reminds me of Mookyul, yet the attitudes toward Put on a Smile are so violently different than Captivated when it first came out. That was back when people had so much better perspective on rape. Now it's digressed to such an extent that many if not most of those people are so f'ked up about rape that they're almost completely lost to all reason.

    Durao August 20, 2020 2:04 pm

    My thoughts exactly, same with Love is an illusion.

    Minakushi August 21, 2020 3:42 am

    Firstly, put a smile on is just literally straight up rape. It's not because he had an interest.
    Secondly, it's probably because this is kinda more of a dating. Violence than rape imo.
    Also, u forgot to mention how people talk abt possessive seme yet gawk at this one xd

    Quicksilver August 21, 2020 4:21 am
    Firstly, put a smile on is just literally straight up rape. It's not because he had an interest. Secondly, it's probably because this is kinda more of a dating. Violence than rape imo. Also, u forgot to mention... Minakushi

    true. yeah,the interest and dating makes it more gentle. hadn't thought of it that way. yeah, the gawking. lol

Quicksilver August 18, 2020 6:37 pm

Nothing in this story warrants the blood, gore, and violence that commenters are inflicting on the this room every week.
Have some consideration for others who might be pacifists, might not have the tendency toward violent behavior or the capacity for describing it that you do, who might not have as strong a stomach as you and your upvoters, who might be sickened and shocked by what you consider justice.

Quicksilver August 16, 2020 5:38 pm

I've come to a conclusion today: women suck. You're too serious, no fun, you're terrible sports and sore losers,. You're boring beyond belief, instead of discussing things, you report people. You never want to talk about the story you just read. I thought it would be fun to talk with women who like BL. There was a time when I thought the world would be more peaceful if women shared half the power. not anymore.
I could say plenty more...

    bob August 16, 2020 5:40 pm

    lmao wtf led you to this conclusion? the misoginy... yikes

    Anonymous August 16, 2020 5:43 pm
    lmao wtf led you to this conclusion? the misoginy... yikes bob

    Read the title of his comment

    Quicksilver August 16, 2020 6:17 pm
    lmao wtf led you to this conclusion? the misoginy... yikes bob

    that women have hateful labels for everything male.

    Quicksilver August 16, 2020 6:19 pm
    Read the title of his comment @Anonymous

    no, it's the way almost all of you act in comment sections. I titled it that way cuz it's gotta be about BL or mangao gets tiffy, but I think it's true for all of you. lol I can't stand that none of you have the slightest shred of a sense of humor.

    Quicksilver August 16, 2020 6:26 pm
    Read the title of his comment @Anonymous

    There is one thing you're good at: kissing each other's asses. LOL

    Quicksilver August 16, 2020 7:37 pm

    okay, of course I don't mean it,but you guy are pretty boring. LOL

    YuyuChan August 17, 2020 4:46 am

    I think that it's a bit of a shame to put all of us in the same boat x)

    Ellelle August 17, 2020 5:08 am

    Oof who hurt you???

    kaiizawa;) August 17, 2020 5:12 am

    ive barely seen any women in this manhwa

    Ellelle August 17, 2020 5:22 am

    Also did you ever stop to think for a second that the women in these comment sections who you take such offense to and have seemed to effectively (for yourself) thrown into such a small category of “boring” “sore losers” are perhaps only -oh I don’t know- less than half of the women who are actually reading this. You do know not every female has an account that reads on here? And if they do they don’t all comment either. Or has your small sample size of mangago-female-readers-who-comment determined your entire distaste for the female gender? If anyone sounds like a “sore loser” on here it’s you.

    niia August 17, 2020 5:27 am

    damn who hurt u??

    Quicksilver August 17, 2020 6:46 am
    Oof who hurt you??? Ellelle

    huh? women! I thought I made that clear. LOL

    Quicksilver August 17, 2020 6:46 am
    ive barely seen any women in this manhwa kaiizawa;)

    I'm talking about you, einstein lol

    Quicksilver August 17, 2020 6:53 am
    Also did you ever stop to think for a second that the women in these comment sections who you take such offense to and have seemed to effectively (for yourself) thrown into such a small category of “boring”... Ellelle

    At least you're not boring me right now. LOL
    - I thought I was going easy on you guys with the "boring" and "sore losers"
    - I wasn't talking about the dead women on here who have accnts but sit there like a lump all the time. dead
    Are you trying to say that any of you have a sense of humor? man, I'd pay to see that. LOL

    Quicksilver August 17, 2020 6:55 am
    I think that it's a bit of a shame to put all of us in the same boat x) YuyuChan

    yeah, and to think that it's your fault I have to categorize you like that. LOL

    kaiizawa;) August 17, 2020 7:07 am
    I'm talking about you, einstein lol Quicksilver

    mb didn’t know u were coming out, I’m so proud<3

    Quicksilver August 17, 2020 7:31 am
    mb didn’t know u were coming out, I’m so proud<3 kaiizawa;)

    Add obtuse to the list of women's annoying flaws. lol. I don't know what you're talking about or referring to, kazoo player.
    Anyway, why would I need to come out to a bunch of women? LOL

    Quicksilver August 17, 2020 7:32 am

    Look. perfect example: look at the down and upvotes. 15 measly downvotes for this comment .. man, I win you lose

    maleiqh August 17, 2020 7:43 am
    Add obtuse to the list of women's annoying flaws. lol. I don't know what you're talking about or referring to, kazoo player.Anyway, why would I need to come out to a bunch of women? LOL Quicksilver

    biased, judging the every women based off one that pissed u off. Is somebody mad bc they couldn’t get their dick sucked, grow tf up. But I mean since u wanna go there let’s go there men have a higher percentile of being rapists, school shooters, murderers, psychopaths, pedophiles, cheaters, and manipulators but still women are the fucking probably. But don’t get me wrong feel free to keep on judging women based off of one woman that fucked u over, and if you had this same energy with her then I don’t blame her

    maleiqh August 17, 2020 7:48 am
    biased, judging the every women based off one that pissed u off. Is somebody mad bc they couldn’t get their dick sucked, grow tf up. But I mean since u wanna go there let’s go there men have a higher percen... maleiqh

    problem* go watch porn or sum

    Quicksilver August 17, 2020 8:11 am
    biased, judging the every women based off one that pissed u off. Is somebody mad bc they couldn’t get their dick sucked, grow tf up. But I mean since u wanna go there let’s go there men have a higher percen... maleiqh

    ONE? you think I'd base this deep-seated resentment on just one woman? (omg lol) wtf. I'm not like other guys.
    Why wouldn't I be mad about not getting my dick sucked? Wait, what? FYI, All rapists are men. women trying to rape something... that's a joke.
    where are you getting this One woman idea? It's not like I'm ugly or something. shit. I've had more than one woman treat me like garbage. lol Plus a mother, several freaking sisters....wth? One woman.... come back when you're more experienced. LOL okay, I was JK about that experience crack

    maleiqh August 17, 2020 8:22 am
    ONE? you think I'd base this deep-seated resentment on just one woman? (omg lol) wtf. I'm not like other guys.Why wouldn't I be mad about not getting my dick sucked? Wait, what? FYI, All rapists are men. ... Quicksilver

    “I’m not like other guys” ewww, so ur saying a woman can’t rape a man?

    maleiqh August 17, 2020 8:35 am
    “I’m not like other guys” ewww, so ur saying a woman can’t rape a man? maleiqh

    Hold on the rest of my comment didnt go through i gotta rethink

    Ellelle August 17, 2020 3:28 pm
    At least you're not boring me right now. LOL- I thought I was going easy on you guys with the "boring" and "sore losers"- I wasn't talking about the dead women on here who have accnts but sit there like a lump... Quicksilver

    Are you trying to say that you DO have a sense of humor? Have you so thoroughly conflated your sense of superiority in the realm of BL as having a sense of humor? Or is it your pathetic vocabulary of derogatory words towards women you keep throwing around that makes you feel “witty”? LMAO. You just sound like you’ve been turned down by too many people too many times for too many things in life, which is apparent in your reference to the upvotes and downvotes of yours and others comments. Not sure if what your looking for is someone to prove you wrong or some kind of validation in life but either way, the desperation is apparent. Grow up, no one asked for a gatekeeper of BL. Disagree and move on.

Quicksilver August 16, 2020 6:36 am

imagine someone running out of their house, tripping all over themselves with their pants half down, dick in hand, after seeing so much romanticized rape that they've finally snapped. Dogs, fire hydrants, no one is safe.

Quicksilver August 15, 2020 7:46 am

I'll admit that I like the idea of gay men raping homophobes to show them that they are gay. LOL It's not that I would support it in RL, but it makes for a red-hot story as far as I'm concerned, especially when the homophobe is as cute and appealing as Junho, and the gay rapist is as magnificently horrible as Lee Kang.
You guys are too hard on Lee Kang. He symbolizes the broken heart of gay men everywhere.

    Anonymous August 15, 2020 3:30 pm

    Too hard ?
    Oh my god, yaoi’s making some of us crazy dude
    Junho may have been a little homophobic, but he just wanted to ignore it. Never said anything about it, never gonna do it (until Lee Kang started to do some sh*t, so of course he’ll be angry and try to calm him down with the only thing he have against him). He was just being a little awkward with

    Rape ISN’T something you should enjoy dude, and even if Junho was an homophobic that insult and all

    Anonymous August 15, 2020 3:33 pm

    Too hard ?
    Oh my god, yaoi’s making some of us crazy dude
    Junho may have been a little homophobic, but he just wanted to ignore it. Never said anything about it, never gonna do it (until Lee Kang started to do some sh*t, so of course he’ll be angry and try to calm him down with the only thing he have against him). He was just being a little awkward with the teacher.

    Rape ISN’T something you should enjoy dude, and even if Junho was an homophobic that insult and all, that’s not a thing that should happen. If someone’s an @sshole, you’re gonna be an @sshole x2 ? Someone’s doing something not acceptable, so you’re doing something way worse, a CRIME ? Rapping’s a crime, being homophobic isn’t. Being homophobic is just someone with a bad mentality, it sure isn’t a good thing but we’re talking about RAPE DUDE

    Anonymous August 15, 2020 3:36 pm

    + No, he’s not symbolizing a broken heart gay, or I’ll be homophobic too. If all the gay that suffers was rapping other guys, I’LL BECOME HOMOPHOBIC WITHOUT BEING ASHAMED OF IT.
    He’s way worse than a b@st@rd, yet you’re comparing him with some poor gays that suffers, some poor GOOD PERSONS for most of them. Dude, can’t believe your comment

    Anonymous August 15, 2020 3:40 pm

    Gays*
    Anyways we all have our priority, if you thing being homophobic even by being so quiet and only being a little awkward with other gays, by not saying ANYTHING and just trying to ignore the gays, is worse than rapping, which is a crime and something even the worst person doesn’t have to live, than good for you. It’s your opinion.

    Anonymous August 15, 2020 3:42 pm

    If all the gays* that suffers were*

    Dang, being angry while writing’s making me make so many mistakes

    Anyways. I disagree with you, and I know so many yaois got some rape but if people are starting to normalize rape because of that we have a big problem here

    Quicksilver August 15, 2020 6:25 pm
    + No, he’s not symbolizing a broken heart gay, or I’ll be homophobic too. If all the gay that suffers was rapping other guys, I’LL BECOME HOMOPHOBIC WITHOUT BEING ASHAMED OF IT.He’s way worse than a b@s... @Anonymous

    Wait. I don't mean he symbolizes a broken hearted gay man. sorry. I'm saying that in an abstract way, he symbolizes, in general, one aspect of being a gay man. That is, that it's too bad that people were ever homophobic instead of accepting.
    I don't mean Lee Kang as an individual, though I do think the author means for us to recognize that he's angry about Junho's snub, and that that is one of his motivations for raping Junho, the other is that it hurts more when it's someone you've had a crush on for a long time.

    I don't think the author is writing him as a typical gay man who can be a symbol for all gay men. He's not a typical gay man by any stretch.

    Still, there is one aspect of being a gay man that might be virtually one hundred percent true, that it's painful the way society has dealt with gay men throughout the ages.
    No matter how much we might dislike the character, I think we can sympathize with that one aspect, however small, and in that one small aspect as the literary device that Lee Kang is, I think we might see him as symbolic.
    It's my take on it. that's all

    Quicksilver August 15, 2020 6:30 pm
    Too hard ?Oh my god, yaoi’s making some of us crazy dudeJunho may have been a little homophobic, but he just wanted to ignore it. Never said anything about it, never gonna do it (until Lee Kang started to do ... @Anonymous

    Maybe I shouldn't enjoy the rape scenes, but I do.

    Quicksilver August 15, 2020 7:11 pm
    If all the gays* that suffers were*Dang, being angry while writing’s making me make so many mistakesAnyways. I disagree with you, and I know so many yaois got some rape but if people are starting to normalize... @Anonymous

    Please bear with the following as an example of something I've tried to say:
    Say, there's an author who writes a novel about a woman being raped in all its horrific aspects. And some people enjoy reading it and think it's sexy.
    The general population, the people who read, protest that the author shouldn't be titillating any of the audience by thinking that normalizing rape is okay for him to do, and that the author used bad judgement and could have and should have chosen to write about something other than rape, which might cause pain. The public considers that a ban of such writing might be appropriate, or even that the public should let authors know better.

    Are you with me so far?
    In the end, the literary community lauds and gives highest recognition to this novel.
    Why? because the rape of the woman is a metaphor for the rape of a small country by big business, a protest against the siphoning off the country's natural resources of food and supplies necessary for the survival of the indigenous people who live there.
    The woman represents the blameless innocence of the citizens, the rapist represents big business interests.
    The author found the one and only perfect metaphor that he could use for his message.

    This example is why I'm so opposed to people leaning on authors to stop writing about rape or any other subject, and I think it's is a reason why Freedom of Speech and Expression is so important.
    I think we have to allow authors and artists freedom to write about absolutely anything.
    This example isn't based on reality. it's just a way I thought I might make a point.

    Quicksilver August 15, 2020 8:16 pm
    If all the gays* that suffers were*Dang, being angry while writing’s making me make so many mistakesAnyways. I disagree with you, and I know so many yaois got some rape but if people are starting to normalize... @Anonymous

    so you're actually worked up about this, huh? LOL

Quicksilver August 13, 2020 6:31 pm

"can you tone down the sex and rape?" I can easily tell you the answer to this question: no.
I'm reading yaoi a long time, and up until about 2-3 years ago no one said such things or asked such questions. It was considered rude, and to most people who are a little older, it still is. It doesn't even come to mind for them.
it wasn't till the last 2-3 years that I started seeing the constant complaints and demands.
Why is a simple no ignored? Why not accept an answer that isn't ever going to change?

Quicksilver August 12, 2020 1:19 am

so we all agree that the romantic relationship between Lee Kang and Junho is progressing nicely.

Abraxas April 13, 2019 9:03 am

Does anyone on this manhwa have anything intelligent to say? All I read here is bubble-gum snappy perky hearts and flowers. Surely there's something to discuss about this manhwa

    Siaye April 13, 2019 9:38 am

    Ok, I'll let you start. Write something smart to set an example. It would be smarter than coming to complain.

    Abraxas April 13, 2019 9:45 am
    Ok, I'll let you start. Write something smart to set an example. It would be smarter than coming to complain. Siaye

    no no. let me be polite. you can start. go ahead.

    Tanya April 13, 2019 9:51 am
    no no. let me be polite. you can start. go ahead. Abraxas

    Okay my question is wtf happened to his broadcasts

    Siaye April 13, 2019 12:46 pm
    Okay my question is wtf happened to his broadcasts Tanya

    Good question, but is it smart enough for @Abraxas? lol

    Siaye April 13, 2019 12:51 pm
    no no. let me be polite. you can start. go ahead. Abraxas

    Thank you but it's not me who complains about the lack of intelligence, it's you, bubble gumbubble-gum snappy perky hearts and flowers doesn't bother me :)

    Abraxas April 13, 2019 10:15 pm
    Good question, but is it smart enough for @Abraxas? lol Siaye

    definitely smart enough! ty! I doubt he can keep doing it because of the new relationship with dj. what do you think?

    Abraxas April 13, 2019 10:19 pm
    Thank you but it's not me who complains about the lack of intelligence, it's you, bubble gumbubble-gum snappy perky hearts and flowers doesn't bother me :) Siaye

    too much of a good thing turns the whole discussion into a boring bore. Isn't there something someone doesn't like? I'm not crazy about the sudden change in alex. He could be a little less wide-eyed and innocent. I liked him better when he had a few sharp lil edges

    Siaye April 13, 2019 11:45 pm
    too much of a good thing turns the whole discussion into a boring bore. Isn't there something someone doesn't like? I'm not crazy about the sudden change in alex. He could be a little less wide-eyed and inno... Abraxas

    I agree I prefer Jiwoon more nasty, but everyone complained that he was treating DG badly, now that he's sweet as an lamb he's getting almost boring.

    Siaye April 13, 2019 11:54 pm
    definitely smart enough! ty! I doubt he can keep doing it because of the new relationship with dj. what do you think? Abraxas

    I don't know, personally I think it would be a pity if he stopped because it was something that made him very interesting from the start (and hot ah ah) Now he spends his time with DG... Moreover it's the title of the manwha, it would not be logical that the author doesn't speak about it anymore.

    Abraxas April 14, 2019 5:39 am
    I don't know, personally I think it would be a pity if he stopped because it was something that made him very interesting from the start (and hot ah ah) Now he spends his time with DG... Moreover it's the title... Siaye

    I found it sleazy tbh. Sex worker stuff might hurt his future or embarrass him in his position at school, and word is going to get out if he keeps doing it I think. If I was his lover I'd worry about him, like how it could kill his spirit maybe.

Abraxas October 26, 2017 4:30 am

Is the boy in the bubble still alive? siwoon's half brother?

    Anonymous October 26, 2017 5:17 am

    What boy in the bubble?

    Abraxas October 26, 2017 5:24 am
    What boy in the bubble? @Anonymous

    in the hospital bed in earlier chapters at the Min family mansion, you know? he looks like siwon to me. Is it called "Min family? or "Min .. woon?" don't know. anyway, jiwook spied and saw him, right?

    and also, who was in Joohoon's wallet photo?

    OwlSeeYouLater October 26, 2017 5:32 am

    If you're referring to Min Woojin's half brother the implication was that he died and instead of just introducing Min Woojin as the new heir of the family after his death they covered it up and they just replaced him with Woojin and just claimed he had miraculously recovered so they wouldn't have to admit that the new heir was a bastard. I think.

Abraxas October 25, 2017 9:48 pm

I must have read this 20 times. Nishino tough guy in love so cute

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