i think i made a comment before (def lost in all the comments idk why it just doesn’t show me my comment at the top) about the lightsabers and wondering where they are lol cause the smut scenes are not it (atleast yet) and saw that that all the recommended mangas are shounen so i went to see if it actually was shounen and it’s tagged yaoi and ecchi? isn’t ecchi a girl mc and a boy ml ? i could be wrong but idk weird
the art style is my favorite ever the characters are soo pretty. especially the senpai oh my goddd he looks so good but he needs to be out of the picture. i’m hoping miki just confused his love/crush for him because hes the only one who’s been nice with him. he deserves better. the two leads deserve each other ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
alright i said no words but i have a lot of words. i’ve read a bunch of mangas and this story basically wipes away all of the rest. everything about the story is so beautiful. the final chapter (vol 2 chpt 14) is the most bittersweet and incredible chapter i’ve ever read in a manga. from the beginning this story beautiful speaks about being gay and therefore different from anyone else. the different view points from the three mothers of their sons sexualities are so grown sweet to read, seeing all of them eventually accept their sons and wish for their happiness in the end. the friendship between kirino and mishima is something i’ve never read before, and the pandora box that their friendship was built around is something that i will think about forever. yumeno and mishima’s relationship didn’t start off the best, but not all relationships do. the troubles they went through as a gay couple and coming to acceptance with this relationship is something you don’t see often in a yaoi. the way this manga doesn’t glorify rape and didn’t have constant smut is so unique to other stories, because over half the yaois i’ve read don’t show the reality of rape and just don’t show the true horrors of how scary it all can be. it took me over an hour to read this with no breaks and i will be forever thankful i clicked on this manga. nothing will ever compare to what i felt reading it through and through. ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
my favorite yaoi mangas before i read this are twilight (tasogare) outfocus and escape journey, and nothing i’ve read compared to those except this gem now. i soo recommend those two because they are just beautiful and life changing. / my third favorite is caste heaven, but that one is definitely different. still amazing / idk if anyone’s gonna read this but i needed to say this because i will never forget this piece of art.
i love realistic stories like this. especially when it’s an older relationship, it shows the reality of a gay relationship as time goes on. they’re not 17 year old run always anymore, they’re grown and they’ve lived. this is such a gem and the characters are great. it took a bit for me to read but all good mangas with actually decent writing and not just smut take a while to read, but it’s worth it.
ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
everytime this gets an update i get so excited. i love everything about this story (except how little chapters there is （￣へ￣）the art, the seme, the uke, the plot, and the smut (definitely that) i love a seme that has unrequited love for the uke and he is so sweet and funny. what a good story (▰˘◡˘▰)
mangas like this are why i stick to yaoi only. i know there are some mangas that are good and cater to women but this is not one of them. it clearly is just fan service. all the girls have big asses and GIANT tits and of course small waists and flat stomachs. not to mention they look like they don’t wear any underwear with the clothes?? i barely got through a chapter because i wanted to see what the manga was like and i wasn’t suprised. how could anyone (especially a woman) even enjoy this. the smut is unbearable too, this has to be written by a 40yr old virgin somewhere (〜￣△￣)〜
So true its very catered to men
Ikr yaoi is much better
well I do enjoy this manhwa but like you said all the woman have basically to big of things but I mean so does yaoi yaoi most of the time has small bottoms big tops and some how the tops always have huge dicks abs and their tall and masculine, but I mean all manhwa and manga is this way that's why it's points out that it's not real(づ￣ ³￣)づ
yupp ofc none of it is real so it doesn’t have to be realistic. i never really thought of that in yaoi. it’s a good point! but definitely there’s less realistic mangas like this and the parts are way more exaggerated in the women than the men in yaoi.
And i hate the fact that the author thinks we have a swimming pool in the v@gina. Like, if you have that level of wetness go see a doctor.
Most authors dont even know how bodies work.
Girl- a big part of yaoi and this kind of smut is literally the same situation in different fonts. In yaoi the target audience is obviously straight woman and most of the time it is also written by one. While I agree that usually they have a better plot, the smut part is literally the same let’s be fr
Yea that why I stick to yaoi too(⊙…⊙ )
Exactly like why are they so weird it basically the same and let not get started on the male leads in BLs
Plsss the baguette dicks, shredded to death body and that edward cullen personality
there are tons of yaois with realistic smut and body types, mostly the ones in manga form and not the colored pictures.
You can say the same about heterosexual focused mangas
Lol so true, just made it as mxm but it’s basically the same just catered to straight women. At the end of the it’s all smut.
Literally!
like i’m with you but the same can be said for any yaoi. i mean the d*cas spurting absolute fountains, the penetration anytime of the day anywhere without any prep. (that shit needs to be cleaned LOL nevermind properly prepped.) and a lot of times the ass’s seem to be weirdly wet?? like they’re water fountains when there’s hardly any mention of lube. idk just wanted to point out that both genres are very capable of having unrealistic se* scenes
Yeah, I really want to read straight smut with good interesting plot and charaters.
These are not "Mangas", but manhwas (South Korea). People call them pornwhas.
There is the straight smut for females, Josei, that is usually made by female authors which audience is also women. The art is very shojo, pretty normal body size.
Then the straight hentai, produced by men targeting the male audience.
In these latters, there's usually no plot and the hentai is often a harem, means guy mc fucks every walking girls. Girls are like you describe.
It seems that in SK there's not much of Josei for girls and most of what you call straight smut with such explicit covers are in fact straight hentais targeting the male audience.
the title in these are too funny ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I misclicked apologies in advance
i do love tsundere men but i usually read them where it’s a yaoi and the uke is tsundere. this isn’t doing it for me in my opinion. the ml is
annoying and is just a dick in my opinion. i get he doesn’t really know how to show emotions in something but he could try?? they’re dating now and that’s great but if this was a bit more realistic the girl would have given up when she saw how nasty the ml was. she (the mc) is pretty annoying too. i get shes funny and very determined- but it’s coming off as desperate and there are other men who won’t treat you shitty like the ml. maybe i’m being to harsh and treating this too realistically but this is my opinion. curious to see if anyone agrees or disagrees! ╥﹏╥
well, I kind of disagree with you (• ▽ •;) it's true that the ml is pretty annoying, BUT that doesn't mean he's not trying. Little by little, he's changing for the fl because he knows how she feels about him, and he himself has values that he wants to uphold. For the fl, she IS coming off as desperate, but she is aware of it. (I think she's made it clear in a chapter, although I can't remember which. ) She knows that her behavior is embarrassing lol, that's why she is trying to match ml's tempo, iygwim. They're just both new to love¯_ʘ‿ʘ_/¯
You are treating it harshly, but realistically, you're right too.
You have some reasonable points, but from what I can understand from the whole manga (as of now), the main characters are willing to change/improve for their partners, which is also smth we see irl.
yeah you’re right and that’s a good way to like at it! there’s definitely been character development and i’m not gonna drop this because i want to see more of them. they are pretty cute but just for me i could neverrr be with or stand to see a man like that. but again it’s a manga so i don’t need to worry about that (〜￣△￣)〜
i read a lotttt of ts and honestly this was a lot for me. maybe if it was a few chapters or a one shot j of the gangbang purely for smut no plot, but there is a plot. and a decent one. with a good uke, who is haunted by his past. aside from this he is repeatedly abused and raped by not only other characters but the fucked up seme himself. the only good thing about the seme is his looks. i didn’t finish this and only got a bit more than halfway through, but there is no love in this so if you’re looking for a fucked up thing to read go ahead but this is not for the light hearted. even though it is a mafia / mob story, there is so many other better things to read w that plot with actual love and a good seme. j a warning before u read.
i can’t believe dan fell first (〜￣△￣)〜
he’s been treated nothing but badly by jae and he still fell. i’m just waiting for jae to get jealous, then hopefully fall harder ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
idc what anyone says i love this story it’s too interesting and i’m in awe whenever i see the characters / art. sooo good