velocity August 15, 2024 7:55 pm

i knew about the shooting, but i didn’t know that someone will get shot in their FUCKING HEAD
wtf is going on here

velocity August 13, 2024 11:34 am

they’re so nasty i love that for them

velocity August 10, 2024 3:22 pm

ngl jooin looks kinda uglier with his hair short

    Jay August 10, 2024 6:07 pm

    You dead wrong

velocity August 6, 2024 4:04 pm

i’m so conflicted about this webtoon. i don’t think it was good, but not because it focused on rape, had a lot of violence and abuse, the ml was the worst, and other shit people here get upset about. i genuinely think the plot was just not good, even when the idea for it actually was: an obsessive individual with no remorse and no empathy, but a lot of power, sets his eyes on someone and will do anything to make that person his possession, including completely breaking their spirits and mind. but the actual plot and its structure are all over the place, especially after hyunjae’s betrayal. everything after that is centered around breaking junghoon completely, but even this doesn’t feel that well developed between one rape scene and another (and even during them).

junghoon as a character also feels underdeveloped. there was some exploration of his feelings and trauma after getting his men slaughtered, but to me it just wasn’t enough. there were many moments where he could’ve slipped deeper into his thoughts, reflected on everything that had happened and done some meaningful narration. but half of this time is instead spent on him thinking about hyunjae and what he could be possibly doing. and speaking of hyunjae, i just couldn’t see what made junghoon fall in love with him. i could deduce it, since hyunjae took care of junghoon after all the gangrapes (which he had caused in the first place but anyway) and was somehow nice to him compared to the other guys, who either wanted to fuck him or kill him, or both. i knew it was because of that, because i saw what the author was going for here. but i just couldn’t actually see it in the story. when i was reading killing stalking, not only could i understand why bum still had feelings for sangwoo (given bum’s past and mental illness) after all the things that happened, but i could also see it with my own two eyes: all the small affectionate moments between them, sangwoo’s sporadic but seemingly genuine kindness and at times some semblance of normalcy in their relationship, or even the way bum understood sangwoo and empathized with him, and it made bum’s love for sangwoo not only more understandable for me but also way more believable. but here, junghoon’s emotional state just wasn’t shown well enough for me to believe he actually fell in love with hyunjae (and it wasn’t just the author trying to convince you he did), especially after the betrayal. there was some actual potential to make their relationship deeper and more engaging, because despite how twisted, toxic and fucked up it was, it still could’ve been actually entertaining to witness. and for a story with 54 chapters, this potential feels just wasted.

hyunjae also feels kind of underdeveloped. we see his past and childhood (something even junghoon, the main character, wasn’t allowed to have) but it’s just not enough to make his character really compelling or at least interesting. every attempt at making him, or actually any other character, deeper and more fleshed out was rushed. and it’s just so sad to me that the only time we see junghoon’s past is right before he gets raped by some random guy that he conveniently happens to have met before (as a form of introduction for the rape motive) and in singbin’s stupid ass flashback at the end of the side story. he’s barely treated like a character here, and he is supposed to be the main one.

and the ending was just so out of place, both for the actual story and for the side story. all of this stuff with police suddenly materializing outside the gang building was not only rushed and out of nowhere, but simply not explained at all. they just appeared there for some reason and decided to take down the gang members in the moment that was the most convenient for the plot. and no one can convince me that the sudden backstory of junghoon’s men (namely sungbin) in the literally last two chapters of the story (so after what? 30? 40? chapters since they’d been killed) was anything else but a cheap trick the author tried to pull off to make the story even more miserable. this could’ve been done earlier, even at some point after the betrayal when junghoon was recovering from one of the gangrapes, and to escape the reality of what had just happened to him, he could’ve reminisced about the past when everything was better and he was happier. and why was sungbin even the narrator of that flashback? wasn’t he dead? or did he just raise from the ashes to make the ending even more bleak with his sappy ass love story and then died once again? sorry, but this is just lazy ass writing.

this is just my personal opinion, but if there was really a need for this whole drug subplot in the side story, i think that the ending could’ve hit much more and would’ve make more sense if junghoon succumbed to his drug addiction and hyunjae couldn’t do anything to stop him, and was absolutely devastated because of that. after all, he’d done everything he could to keep junghoon by his side, and now that he had him, junghoon wasn’t really there because he got addicted to the drugs (that hyunjae’s guys had given him in the first place), and could literally die at any moment, either from overdosing or from withdrawal. i just don’t understand the sudden shift in hyunjae’s thought process to feed junghoon these drugs as if otherwise junghoon would run away from him. like where? he already decided to stay with you, everyone he ever cared about is dead, and he’s already brainwashed to the point where he really wants to have a “normal” life with you. there’s literally no point in making him even more miserable.

and maybe it’s just my personal preference, but the chibi pseudo comedic panels were actually pissing me off. they kind of made sense before the betrayal, where the general tone and atmosphere of the story still weren’t as heavy and dark, but after that they were absolutely unnecessary and managed to ruin any kind of tension i felt every time they appeared. like i remember this one particular moment when junghoon was still held captive in that basement(?) and started reflecting about the gangrapes and hyunjae’s motives, and i was genuinely excited to see him potentially coming to some meaningful conclusions, just to be hit with a panel of a chibi version of him shaking his head and saying “no, wait, it actually sounds like i’m in love with hyunjae!!!” or some other similarly sounding nonsense, and i just genuinely lost it at that moment, because are we in a romcom right now? where did it come from? how are you thinking things like that in your situation? and i just can’t help but think this was also the author’s lazy attempt at setting up this whole “junghoon’s falling in love with hyunjae despite everything fucked up that happened” thing but it was just so stupidly obvious and not subtle at all that i had to laugh.

and i guess everything i just said could be countered with “well, but that’s the title of the webtoon, there’s no reason for these things to happen and they just happen”, but to excuse anything that doesn’t make sense or doesn’t add up, or just generally feels lacking is nothing more but lazy writing. i agree that there could’ve been no reason as to why hyunjae chose junghoon in particular to keep as his “possession”. but when the characters and the plot don’t have a lot of integrity because the main theme of the story is “no reason”, then why even make a story in the first place? it wasn’t trying to break some rules of storytelling and reinvent them to make a unique reading experience, it just seemed to ignore them because there’s “no reason” to stick to them.

at last, i actually really enjoyed the artstyle and most of the rape scenes (esepcially when i forgot about the plot at large) for what they were: just rape porn with an additional flavor of mindbreak. i really liked the dark and oppressive atmosphere, and the violence, too. the general premise and the first few chapters were also really good. everything else, however, fell short.

    UkyoIsAYandere August 13, 2024 6:45 pm

    Right? Right?? This comment needs to be pinned

    ...and just my thought this looked like the prologue monologue to a person in manga/novel suddenly meeting an accident and getting isekai-d no jinx tho(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    malo August 24, 2024 1:07 pm

    I’m not reading allat but I’m gonna assume u right bcs why else would someone write this much

velocity August 6, 2024 1:21 pm

nooo the chapter got cut off in the middle

velocity August 5, 2024 8:23 pm

…what kind of traumatic event needs to take place in a person’s life to come up with something like this? what was the thought process here? i like reading weird and disturbing shit but this here… this ain’t for me.

velocity August 4, 2024 8:34 pm

i’m still waiting for chapter 3 of this… i really can’t get this story out of my head. author-san please bless us with chapter 3 already

velocity August 4, 2024 5:21 pm

it’s still ongoing, so some things may change later but to me this story has been really disappointing so far. it started strong with its premise about casinos, a card dealer uke and a rich mysterious seme. but more than 40 chapters are spent developing the casino premise, showing the games hawon has with different people (namely taeha, where their own relationship gets an interesting start), even explaining the rules for different card games, and all that to just abandon it altogether the moment aeil decides he doesn’t want to gamble for some painting (which seemed to be a quite important plot point with some actual build up). all of a sudden, hawon’s card dealing job at taeha’s casino table is forgotten because now it’s revealed that hawon’s father is a mastermind and he collected some illegal and damning information about the kwon cousins and hawon is the key to obtain it. for the next 30 or so chapters it’s just circling back and forth to unveil the clues of hawon’s father’s master plan which is honestly so unnecessarily complicated. there are more and more new things revealed or added constantly and at the same time none of the previously introduced subplots are fully resolved. they’re just there for the reader to hopefully forget about because there’s no time to remember them in the overly complicated web of hawon’s father’s and kwon cousins’ shenanigans.

in the middle of all that, we also have hawon and taeha’s relationship which seems almost exactly the same in chapter 84 as in the chapter where they first met (so probably chapter 2 or 3). barely anything has changed over these 80 chapters, maybe besides the fact that hawon is a little less reluctant about the idea of sleeping with taeha (because he knows taeha will make him do that anyway), and that he’s a little sad at the notion that he probably can’t seduce taeha to ensure the latter paying off his debt whether he meets the requirements of their deal(s) or not.

and taeha is just one big mystery. at one point he says that he’ll pay off hawon’s debt after two years of hawon working for him and then later says that actually, he’ll pay off his debt after hawon gets this painting from aeil, but actually he doesn’t really want this painting, he just wants hawon to obtain the wikileaks information, but actually he doesn’t care about these wikileaks, he just doesn’t want aeil to get them and he just wants to keep hawon to himself. like just make up your mind bro. it really seems as if the author kept changing his motives and goals as they were writing the novel. i get it that he is meant to have some “insanity” in his genes, but come on. and he gets barely any development, too.

the sex scenes between them were also soooo boring. no buildup, no tension, no exploration of their dynamics or relationship, nothing. taeha just puts his dick in hawon’s holes while trying to be smug about it and calls it a day. and hawon just seems to be a different person while they fuck which is just so odd to me.

at first, i really liked hawon for his wits, cunningness, selfishness and calculating personality. but seeing him barely grow as a person and still not being able to realize at any point the shortcomings of his over analytical personality get stagnant really quickly. some of his narration also feels just… redundant. he’s over explaining the things that are happening and that the reader can see just fine with their own eyes. at first i thought it was just a quirk of his and the author was self-aware of it, but seeing him behaving in the same manner later in the story made me doubt it altogether.

overall, the story wanted to bite more than it could chew. too many things are going on, the sudden plot point with these wikileaks and hawon’s father masterplan is overcomplicated with too many loose threads still hanging in the air, and the dynamics between the main couple is just boring, which is sad to see considering how often we see them interacting with each other. i’m really disappointed because i thought i was getting a story about a casino card dealer and his rich smug client who’s clearly too interested in him. instead, it turned out to be some wannabe intricate story about the main character being the only key to a big mystery, where too many things are unnecessarily connected with each other, and the reasons for it are explained in a half-assed way at best. i’ve already spent too much time reading this story so i’m still planning to finish it, but i don’t expect it to get any better.

    MarcoSlyv August 5, 2024 5:45 pm

    You really wrote an essay...i wish i had the passion to do that lool

    velocity August 5, 2024 5:54 pm
    You really wrote an essay...i wish i had the passion to do that lool MarcoSlyv

    i still cut out some stuff not to make it too long lol. i guess i just love analyzing and dissecting everything that i consume, and more often than not i just need to vent my frustrations and the topics section is usually where i do it lol.

    geekazoid August 6, 2024 3:06 am

    my god you did such a good job at putting this in words. I had the exact same opinion on this and you summarized my thoughts exactly.

    TheMerquet August 6, 2024 11:23 am

    Agreed, I think the beginning was perfect, the execution later on went downhill for me. Still a nice read tho compared to brainless bl

    Le pierrot rouge August 13, 2024 2:27 pm

    Truly, much of these flaws are due to bad pacing and poor execution in general. But other problems, mainly relationed to plot or characters I don't see it, for example it was severely hinted that there was something more important going on behind curtains than simply the mc winning a painting to some rich guy, like you can say it was badly executed (it was) but it was there. I don't see the mc as selfish neither he's very considerate with people who's not basically scum trash, but yeah I agree he's over analytical tho I don't see it as bad per se, in his case at least is a good tool because he's working with dangerous people and finally yes there's redundance in the narration and that's bad execution. The original material it's a novel so that would explain why this happen too.

velocity August 4, 2024 2:32 pm

oh my this was sooo good. everything was perfect, the sadistic seme, the pretty yet helpless uke, the rape, the manipulation, the forced threesome, the mind break (induced by some stimulating drug but still). the only flaw is that it’s definitely too short. it had some great longer story potential to have some interesting world building and absolutely fucked up relationship between seme and uke. i need more stories like this

    피의 August 5, 2024 6:04 am

    Exactly it was just perfect but sooo short omg I come back to this every now and then just thinking how it would be if it was longer

    velocity August 5, 2024 6:22 am
    Exactly it was just perfect but sooo short omg I come back to this every now and then just thinking how it would be if it was longer 피의

    i read the q&a with the author on the official publishing site and they said that this story was just a way to “reset” their mind before they started working on a new series and that they don’t plan to write anything else about the military right now… but they also said that they planned a different ending but to pull it off they would’ve needed 4 more chapters… we were robbed

    nvatie August 12, 2024 4:29 pm

    ur a hupersezusl arent u

    velocity August 12, 2024 6:12 pm
    ur a hupersezusl arent u nvatie

    if you meant hypersexual then idk how that has to do anything with me enjoying some good rape in a story

    nvatie August 12, 2024 7:46 pm
    if you meant hypersexual then idk how that has to do anything with me enjoying some good rape in a story velocity

    enjoying a rape story is not normal btw but alot of hypersexual who have maybe been groomed or had access to Internet at a young age enjoy this

    velocity August 12, 2024 8:05 pm
    enjoying a rape story is not normal btw but alot of hypersexual who have maybe been groomed or had access to Internet at a young age enjoy this nvatie

    thanks for diagnosing me through the internet mr armchair psychologist but none of this is true i just like fictional rape

    nvatie August 12, 2024 10:13 pm
    thanks for diagnosing me through the internet mr armchair psychologist but none of this is true i just like fictional rape velocity

    not rly disproving my point but jolly day young lad

    피의 August 13, 2024 3:48 am
    thanks for diagnosing me through the internet mr armchair psychologist but none of this is true i just like fictional rape velocity

    LMAO literally like this is just a good ass story with some good ass art

    chacha31 August 21, 2024 4:26 pm
    thanks for diagnosing me through the internet mr armchair psychologist but none of this is true i just like fictional rape velocity

    you're just sick.

    Pewp August 26, 2024 3:14 am

    oh!?(⊙…⊙ )

    Tsunmimi October 1, 2024 12:18 pm
    if you meant hypersexual then idk how that has to do anything with me enjoying some good rape in a story velocity

    Yo the words “enjoying” “good rape” should not be used in any sentence at all, doesn’t matter if it’s a fictional story or not, and these is no such thing as “a good rape story”, what the what!!!!!!

    nvatie October 5, 2024 6:47 pm
    Yo the words “enjoying” “good rape” should not be used in any sentence at all, doesn’t matter if it’s a fictional story or not, and these is no such thing as “a good rape story”, what the what!!... Tsunmimi

    right..

velocity August 2, 2024 10:33 pm

ok so from what i saw in the raws, it’s going to have a happy and quite heartwarming ending. geom is going to end up with wooyeon and they’re going to live together and be quite happy. geom was also smiling a lot which was so nice to see tbh.

    JIN SAKAI August 2, 2024 10:51 pm

    THANK LORD

    siomaii August 6, 2024 11:11 am

    THANK GOODNESS

    Vivian August 7, 2024 8:09 pm

    That is awesome I am in need to see them in a happy ending

    Bboppi August 8, 2024 3:49 pm

    So uhmmmm.. how bout the wife tho? (Commenting when ive only read the first 2 chaps, canthelpit coz the way i see it, its gonna be an angsty jorni sooo.. here i am for the assurance nd curiouct (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)

    velocity August 8, 2024 10:23 pm
    So uhmmmm.. how bout the wife tho? (Commenting when ive only read the first 2 chaps, canthelpit coz the way i see it, its gonna be an angsty jorni sooo.. here i am for the assurance nd curiouct (. ❛ ᴗ �... Bboppi

    read more and you’ll see the wife’s stance in all of this. i don’t want to spoil it for you but the wife’s not going to be a problem but it’ll make sense once you read it.

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