eddie_i January 16, 2025 5:45 am

now i know that it might come as a surprise but jingi is my son too. so really this chapter hurts me. it hurts me to see my babies fighting... ah... its not right

eddie_i December 31, 2024 9:24 pm

i don't trust yejun's friend he seems like he has malicious intent

    xArchAngelx December 31, 2024 11:33 pm

    Girl it was obvious that he is in love with the omega ...

    eddie_i January 1, 2025 1:23 am
    Girl it was obvious that he is in love with the omega ... xArchAngelx

    Omg i know but he has malicious intent beyond that

    xArchAngelx January 1, 2025 1:50 am
    Omg i know but he has malicious intent beyond that eddie_i

    Malicious would be to harm, he is just in love and took an oppurtinity. Current alpha is anything but good to the omega

    bruce January 1, 2025 2:03 am
    Malicious would be to harm, he is just in love and took an oppurtinity. Current alpha is anything but good to the omega xArchAngelx

    obviously yejun (omega) is still gonna end up w doyoon (alpha) either way so its either something happens to yi-hyun or yi-hyun does something that breaks yejun's trust in him, so i wouldnt be surprised if he ends up being a bad person. obviously doyoon isnt a good person but the bl is obviously rooting for him and is trying to make us feel bad for him by bringing up the experiments he went through as a child and his absent mother. it doesnt want us to think hes a bad person LOL

    xArchAngelx January 1, 2025 3:47 am

    Nah He can be green flag and omega will still choose trash xD I read too many bls to be fooled xD

eddie_i December 31, 2024 9:00 pm

happy new years everyone

now. i know what this chapter looks like. "heonjae is violent" but i need you to stay with me. it's clear heonjae didn't realise myeong-il didn't like being choked, he took his body reacting well as a sign of consent. it's not and it was wrong. but i need u guys to know he didn't get off from myeong-il not wanting it.

besides this. idk how the author managed but they lowkey mischaracterized him this chapter. heonjae doesn't like lying. he wouldn't go "heh..." it's just not him. "it's their character" idc. I'm heonjae number one defender and as his number one defender it's important to me he's portrayed correctly

have a great new years everyone (=・ω・=) I'm glad we all logged in to read yaoi

    bruce December 31, 2024 9:00 pm

    Heh...

    Grey December 31, 2024 10:31 pm

    i mean u do u sis what heonjae did was actually scary

    Nanami January 1, 2025 12:03 am
    i mean u do u sis what heonjae did was actually scary Grey

    Rite lol

    Fey January 1, 2025 12:52 am

    Gurl you don't have to search for an excuse just say you like that freak and own it i don't fuck with it but you do you

    jjaxson January 1, 2025 1:11 am

    LMAO Happy New Year girl, never change

    eddie_i January 1, 2025 1:24 am
    i mean u do u sis what heonjae did was actually scary Grey

    baby just needs some mothering and then he'll be fine x

    eddie_i January 1, 2025 1:24 am
    Gurl you don't have to search for an excuse just say you like that freak and own it i don't fuck with it but you do you Fey

    thank you ally. i do like that freak

    eddie_i January 1, 2025 1:24 am
    LMAO Happy New Year girl, never change jjaxson

    HAPPY NEW YEARRR

    tissue-kun January 1, 2025 1:39 am

    no matter how hard you try these two absolutely cannot be excused

    eddie_i January 1, 2025 2:16 am
    no matter how hard you try these two absolutely cannot be excused tissue-kun

    Yes girl ik i'm not trying to excuse them. i just don't want their actions misportrayed ( ̄∇ ̄")

    akechi248 January 1, 2025 6:35 am

    i wanna agree so bad w the first part but i feel like were not remembering the time when heonjae explicitly said he wants to trick myeong-il into being alone in a room with him so he could hurt him in a sexual way (plus in heonjae's lil fantasy myeong-il is clearly not into it at all) like i love him to death but i feel like he'd BEEN wanting to hurt him no matter how myeong-il felt about it

    akechi248 January 1, 2025 7:10 am
    i wanna agree so bad w the first part but i feel like were not remembering the time when heonjae explicitly said he wants to trick myeong-il into being alone in a room with him so he could hurt him in a sexual ... akechi248

    ALSO i try not to think of it as mischaracterizing him personally because it feels more like character progression to me (as long as he continues in this direction at least) that shows that he'd getting more confident/ballsy in the shit he does

    eddie_i January 6, 2025 1:44 pm
    i wanna agree so bad w the first part but i feel like were not remembering the time when heonjae explicitly said he wants to trick myeong-il into being alone in a room with him so he could hurt him in a sexual ... akechi248

    Ur a loyal heonjae fan ive seen it so im listening. I hear u. I see u.

    akechi248 January 6, 2025 5:25 pm
    Ur a loyal heonjae fan ive seen it so im listening. I hear u. I see u. eddie_i

    at the end of the day we both just want whats best for our fav freakazoid

eddie_i November 5, 2024 6:36 pm

this chapter has hurt me. as number one heonjae fan and defender i am in shambles. I'm glad to see people sympathising with my poor baby. may i suggest a 3 chapter pause for the heonjae hate... just give me some time to process this... need a cold cigarette to ease the pain...

    LynxSeoltang November 5, 2024 7:59 pm

    Whoever dislike this comment has no heart. I support the pause for Heonjae hate. Baby boy has issues mentally and because of that people has taken advantage of him. It's not his fault why became like that. It's the fault of the people around him

    Lynn November 5, 2024 11:27 pm
    Whoever dislike this comment has no heart. I support the pause for Heonjae hate. Baby boy has issues mentally and because of that people has taken advantage of him. It's not his fault why became like that. It's... LynxSeoltang

    explanation ≠ justification

eddie_i October 30, 2024 9:50 am

guys please it's so obvious he was groomed and sexually abused by his teacher. it's been implied over and over again. just because he had a crush on his teacher at first does NOT mean he was the one who initiated it. u srsly got me fucked up if you're calling heonjae weird for being a victim
in a relationship with a teacher and student there will always be a power dynamic and an age gap, possibly an illegal one depending on the ages. it's always wrong and it's always grooming. DO NOT PISS ME OFF!!!!
i am fighting demons typing this out in my stiff wrist brace but u guys need to STOP being so judgemental towards heonjae. like genuinely. if you hate him so much STOP READING. "omg this is so problematic" YES GIRL there's rape in the like. third chapter. WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP READING THEN.

moving on. I'm happy to see people accepting that Heonjae is genuinely autismcoded. last time i said this i got called ableist as if I'm not autistic myself...now i hope u people will be a bit more mindful on the ableist rhetoric u spew... psychopath this sociopath that. he has repeatedly shown empathy, sympathy, and care for others. he cares about myeong-il more than he cares about himself for example which makes it impossible for him to be a sociopath or psychopath

also calling him a weirdo for just showing autistic symptoms is weird. like not getting social cues... very strange. if i see any of u shittalking heonjae for bs reasons I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be watching. u will see me reply.

    bruce October 30, 2024 9:52 am

    YUPPP! YUPPPPPPP!

    Watcher October 30, 2024 10:08 am

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    Heonjae fan here too, but so far in the raws, the crimes of the teacher is him taking Heonjae's first place cash prizes in the races for himself and only giving Heonjae 1% of it, and him being a selfish prick who trained Heonjae so wrongly that his knee suffered and tore a ligament.

    Last we see of the teacher, he became like a homeless guy that comes knocking at the construction company office where Jingi and Heonjae works.

    Not sure how Heonjae ends up having s*x with the teacher yet. Hmmm, I'm low key guessing for money maybe?

    fawn October 30, 2024 10:15 am

    ILYSM OMG FINALLY I FOUND ANOTHER HEONJAE FAN

    Kurosawa October 30, 2024 2:00 pm

    Thank you for this my fellow Heonjae supporter

    Ya, October 30, 2024 2:26 pm

    I LOVE YOU

    Lilysky October 30, 2024 4:05 pm

    Just because you were a victim it doesn’t give you the right to becoming an agresor. Which is what Heonjae is. I understand that he had a lot of struggles growing up, which led him to become the person he is now…. But… also… let’s be honest, he does not care about MC the way y’all think he does. He’s doing all of this for his OWN BENEFIT. He’s infatuated with the MC, he also HURTS the MC. He is no better than Jingi. ALSO. I am not ignoring the fact that he might be autistic. Again… it doesn’t give him the right to do the things he does. HES A CRIMINAL. I hate them all, lmao. However, I want to see where the story goes. Because it’s a decent story. Carry on. I enjoy reading y’all’s points of views. I think we can have peaceful discussions and makes this story more appealing, cause I want to see what people got to say! Haha

    Twips October 30, 2024 8:21 pm

    i think he might have some form of an obsessive disorder along with the autism. yes im autistic too and i can see some of that in his behavior

    turtlesss October 30, 2024 9:18 pm

    just bc he is a victim and neurodivergent does NOT give him the right to act the way he does nor excuse his actions. its simply an explanation. excusing this behaviour just bc of his childhood or mentality. it gives the rest of us a bad rep. we’re allowed to hate heonjae for how he treats meongill, we can hate him for his criminal record. but i do agree that hating on him for his neurodivergent traits without knowing why or how it affects him is pretty dumb. excusing his actions and shit on these reasons just places horrible stereotypes on us. hold people accountable for their actions. you cant just let people get away with shit for being nd. “oh dw about my friend here i know he abused you for years both mentally and verbally but its okay bc he has bpd, youll just have to deal with it lol he cant help it<3” thats literally the energy youre giving.

    turtlesss October 30, 2024 9:21 pm
    just bc he is a victim and neurodivergent does NOT give him the right to act the way he does nor excuse his actions. its simply an explanation. excusing this behaviour just bc of his childhood or mentality. it ... turtlesss

    i misspelled myeong-il mb but yeah before anyone comes after me for this take, just know im autistic, have bpd avpd and cptsd. for the love of god stop excusing the bad in people with nd conditions and making the rest of us look bad.

    rawr October 31, 2024 11:53 am
    i misspelled myeong-il mb but yeah before anyone comes after me for this take, just know im autistic, have bpd avpd and cptsd. for the love of god stop excusing the bad in people with nd conditions and making t... turtlesss

    THANK YOU!! That's like saying a man can rape a woman because he was raped in the past. It doesn't justify!!! Then using autism to say he doesn't understand no? I don't think half of these people know what Autism ACTUALLY is, because hes not so high on the spectrum that he can't understand right from wrong

    Twips November 1, 2024 3:42 am
    THANK YOU!! That's like saying a man can rape a woman because he was raped in the past. It doesn't justify!!! Then using autism to say he doesn't understand no? I don't think half of these people know what Auti... rawr

    my comment was just agreeing on him being autistic coded. I meant to add what you all have been saying. Im hoping that OP is just saying dont call him a weirdo for this teacher grooming situation? Just to give benefit of the doubt

    bruce November 1, 2024 9:57 am
    just bc he is a victim and neurodivergent does NOT give him the right to act the way he does nor excuse his actions. its simply an explanation. excusing this behaviour just bc of his childhood or mentality. it ... turtlesss

    i don’t think op ever said anything about excusing his actions ? he said to stop hating on heonjae for bs reasons, such as the autistic traits he displays and for potentially being groomed … not for reasonable stuff like being a rapist. bringing irl comparisons into this argument kind of also immediately makes it invalid as it’s not comparable at all as heonjae is not real and it comes across as a bit insensitive to me. op is saying to not call heonjae weird for the autistic traits he displays (which a lot of being accidentally do) and for being potentially groomed (a lot of people have been calling heonjae gross and victim blaming him for it) as of course heonjae will not see these comments bc he’s not real but victims of teacher-student grooming and people who have autism will see those comments. majority of people i’ve seen do not shame heonjae for his actual crimes but for literally everything else

    bruce November 1, 2024 10:01 am
    i don’t think op ever said anything about excusing his actions ? he said to stop hating on heonjae for bs reasons, such as the autistic traits he displays and for potentially being groomed … not for reasona... bruce

    i think a lot of you have this issue of seeing a fictional character on the same level as real people and don’t like to allow anyone to explore characters like this when the only time you *should* be exploring the reasons and motives of a rapist is in a fictional setting. and before YOU come at me, i’m also autistic with c-ptsd. op is also autistic like he said

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:16 am
    i misspelled myeong-il mb but yeah before anyone comes after me for this take, just know im autistic, have bpd avpd and cptsd. for the love of god stop excusing the bad in people with nd conditions and making t... turtlesss

    How many of those are professionally diagnosed, genuinely asking and how old are you

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:17 am
    THANK YOU!! That's like saying a man can rape a woman because he was raped in the past. It doesn't justify!!! Then using autism to say he doesn't understand no? I don't think half of these people know what Auti... rawr

    friend i think you misunderstood my comment. i'm saying people need to stop calling him freaky or weird in this specific panel where he's clearly being groomed; also, no, autism doesn't excuse rape? I'm not sure where you got that from my comment

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:21 am
    just bc he is a victim and neurodivergent does NOT give him the right to act the way he does nor excuse his actions. its simply an explanation. excusing this behaviour just bc of his childhood or mentality. it ... turtlesss

    when have i literally ever said that his diagnoses excuse him being a rapist. all i said was stop hating on him *for* these autistic traits and stop calling him a psychopath etc because it's ableist. i never once said "you cant hate him because he's a rapist" BCS he literally is one. ik that. I'm mad at people mischaracterizing him and being ableist in the process. because yes he's a rapist. this entire manhwa has a lot of rape in it. they're criminals. no shit they're gonna be bad people

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:24 am
    Just because you were a victim it doesn’t give you the right to becoming an agresor. Which is what Heonjae is. I understand that he had a lot of struggles growing up, which led him to become the person he is ... Lilysky

    thank u for being the only person in my replies being lowkey reasonable.
    yes it doesn't give him the right to become an aggressor, i hope you know i don't think that, him being a rapist is wrong even if he was raped. i definitely think he cares about MC in his own way, he cares enough to not want MC to think of him badly, to not want to hurt him (consciously) even if consistently violates boundaries and consent
    i think him and jingi are on opposite ends of the same spectrum, both bad people but they definitely treat MC badly in different ways

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:25 am
    i think a lot of you have this issue of seeing a fictional character on the same level as real people and don’t like to allow anyone to explore characters like this when the only time you *should* be explorin... bruce

    thank you my loyal dickrider.

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:27 am
    ILYSM OMG FINALLY I FOUND ANOTHER HEONJAE FAN fawn

    OMG ILYT WE STAND UNITED

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:27 am
    Thank you for this my fellow Heonjae supporter Kurosawa

    my right hand man right here. we never rest.

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:28 am
    I LOVE YOU Ya,

    I LOVE YOU TOO THANK YOU FOR BEING ON HEONJAES SIDE.

    Twips November 1, 2024 2:50 pm
    friend i think you misunderstood my comment. i'm saying people need to stop calling him freaky or weird in this specific panel where he's clearly being groomed; also, no, autism doesn't excuse rape? I'm not sur... eddie_i

    Ok I'm glad its what I thought you meant. I definitely agree that he shouldn't be called weird for this because he was a child and was abused.

    turtlesss November 1, 2024 10:02 pm
    How many of those are professionally diagnosed, genuinely asking and how old are you eddie_i

    im 21 and on prescribed meds thanks<333

    eddie_i November 4, 2024 2:43 pm
    im 21 and on prescribed meds thanks<333 turtlesss

    if ur 21 then im concerned u dont have the reading comprehension skills to understand wtf I'm saying .

    turtlesss November 4, 2024 7:50 pm
    if ur 21 then im concerned u dont have the reading comprehension skills to understand wtf I'm saying . eddie_i

    no i do get it??? im quite literally just saying it doesnt excuse his behaviour that hes nd. yes the people who hate him for his lack of social skills and whatever else is weird and wrong but also im simply pointing out that on top of all that, people still can hate him for the fact he has committed crimes regardless if hes a victim or autism coded. “if you hate him so much, stop reading” we’re allowed to read media with characters we hate. and those who excuse his actions because of those reasons are also wrong.

    turtlesss November 4, 2024 7:52 pm
    if ur 21 then im concerned u dont have the reading comprehension skills to understand wtf I'm saying . eddie_i

    also criticizing anyone for lack of reading comprehension is insane considering you were just going on about an autism coded character and swearing youre not ableist. poor reading comprehension is quite literally an autistic trait

    turtlesss November 4, 2024 7:58 pm
    if ur 21 then im concerned u dont have the reading comprehension skills to understand wtf I'm saying . eddie_i

    im ngl i did get carried away with my rant before and was not entirely accusing you of excusing his actions. however BECAUSE of my autism i genuinely struggle with reading and take things the wrong way. again, poor reading comprehension is an autistic trait!!!!!!!! the beginning of your comment came across as you defending him lowkey. i cant just magically know youre tone or intention through text. but regardless, thanks for clarifying and apologies for the misunderstanding and miscommunication

    bruce November 5, 2024 2:35 pm
    also criticizing anyone for lack of reading comprehension is insane considering you were just going on about an autism coded character and swearing youre not ableist. poor reading comprehension is quite literal... turtlesss

    girl be quiet im sorry. is no one allowed to criticise you for completely misunderstanding something just because youre autistic? youre grown. im not op but i keep forgetting to mute this thread and this pmo so bad please just admit that your anger abt people using heonjae's nd traits to excuse his actions was misguided instead of implying someone else is ableist and only *then* admitting you were wrong. u have avpd right... then next time please can u just do what avpd makes u do... u know... avoid. goddamn

    turtlesss November 5, 2024 6:40 pm
    girl be quiet im sorry. is no one allowed to criticise you for completely misunderstanding something just because youre autistic? youre grown. im not op but i keep forgetting to mute this thread and this pmo so... bruce

    duddeee you clearly dont know what avpd is. we dont avoid everything hello???? primarily its severely avoiding social situations where we can be exposed to embarrassment, humiliation, or rejection. not discussions on a manga site also paired with bpd im gonna give back the energy given to me. i can admit i misunderstood the beginning of ops post but holy shit. theres no need to criticize someone for misunderstanding. a simple “hey this is what they/i meant” wouldve been lovely

    eddie_i November 5, 2024 6:44 pm
    duddeee you clearly dont know what avpd is. we dont avoid everything hello???? primarily its severely avoiding social situations where we can be exposed to embarrassment, humiliation, or rejection. not discussi... turtlesss

    why would i give you that energy when you started off being hostile to me and acting like I'm being ableist and spreading harmful stereotypes? expect people to reply back harshly when you do tf

    eddie_i November 5, 2024 6:46 pm
    no i do get it??? im quite literally just saying it doesnt excuse his behaviour that hes nd. yes the people who hate him for his lack of social skills and whatever else is weird and wrong but also im simply poi... turtlesss

    also you're obviously in the right for hating heonjae for being a rapist but literally why read it at all? the manhwa doesn't portray rape as something horrible, it's porn mixed with plot. you're not gonna get much out of it. i just don't understand why'd u read it

    bruce November 5, 2024 6:49 pm
    duddeee you clearly dont know what avpd is. we dont avoid everything hello???? primarily its severely avoiding social situations where we can be exposed to embarrassment, humiliation, or rejection. not discussi... turtlesss

    and yet here u are embarrassing urself. duddeee i literally did that. you’re the one who turned this personal by immediately dropping that you have bpd, avpd, and cptsd for NO REASON! bringing up that you have autism i get cuz that was relevant to the topic, but seriously i replied to you saying that op was not saying what you thought they were saying, op replied to another person in this thread saying the exact same thing, yet you didn’t say shit. you only replied when it was something relating to yourself, so don’t sit here acting like you didn’t just try turn this into something it wasn’t from the get go

    turtlesss November 6, 2024 7:29 am
    and yet here u are embarrassing urself. duddeee i literally did that. you’re the one who turned this personal by immediately dropping that you have bpd, avpd, and cptsd for NO REASON! bringing up that you h... bruce

    i mentioned i had those as i had used bpd as an example and didnt want people to tell me not to then attack me for using bpd stereotypes. avpd gets stereotyped badly as well. and cptsd was mentioned as its a criteria for most (if not all) personality disorders. can we not literally just agree that this was a misunderstanding and tone and meaning wasnt clear? still dont see how its so hard to just mention what was meant before picking apart what i said. genuinely i commented, op replied to my comments and others’ and i simply replied to op when they asked if i was diagnosed before being criticized for apparently having poor reading comprehension. to which i informed thats an autism trait and i didnt claim anyone was ableist in the process?? i apologize if it came off that way. after my first set of comments the rest were information. maybe i shouldve used tonetags. i get what was said, again, i was just pointing out that the neurodiverce isnt an excuse and those who hate the nd traits are gross. then i get my disorder trying to be used to criticize me further??? i understand i can come off as stubborn and blunt or cold or whatever but genuinely i was just giving info and am wholeheartedly trying my best to say i understand, its literally just that i misunderstood the first part of ops post. once again, i apologize for the misunderstanding, i apologize for the lack of tonetags, and i apologize for getting frustrated when no one understood my tone.

    turtlesss November 6, 2024 7:31 am
    why would i give you that energy when you started off being hostile to me and acting like I'm being ableist and spreading harmful stereotypes? expect people to reply back harshly when you do tf eddie_i

    again i misunderstood the first bit of the post. im very passionate abt making sure harmful stereotypes arent going around as they directly impact me. but after being told i lack reading comprehension (despite saying i was autistic) was what hit me and i took it as a negative angry tone. therefore returning the energy.

    bruce November 6, 2024 1:34 pm
    i mentioned i had those as i had used bpd as an example and didnt want people to tell me not to then attack me for using bpd stereotypes. avpd gets stereotyped badly as well. and cptsd was mentioned as its a cr... turtlesss

    ok i understand why you brought up those disorders now and also acknowledge that u misunderstood. i will say that it really did come across as u trying to call op ableist after he said u lacked reading comprehension as you directly mentioned him saying he wasn’t ableist for saying heonjae displayed asd traits as if him saying that to you contradicted it. your tone did come across as hostile initially and as if you were trying to deflect the misunderstanding back onto op — i do understand now that’s not what u were trying to do but i think i should still mention that’s how it came across so you can understand why i / op responded that way. the fact you had misunderstood the beginning of the original comment was only stated after the other comments were made which is why it came off badly. i’m also not making this clarification to try act like you did smth wrong because you’ve said it was a misunderstanding and i believe that, just want to clarify why the conversation seemed to become hostile. but ya i do understand, maybe i could’ve been less rude myself

eddie_i October 8, 2024 5:10 pm

please stop calling heonjae a psychopath i am genuinely on the verge of tears look at him he's such a sweet boy

eddie_i October 1, 2024 6:26 pm

oh heonjae is so cute. oh im genuinely battling tears seeing him cry. that's my son. my baby

eddie_i September 30, 2024 9:31 pm

yejun is lowkey giving dio brando

eddie_i September 26, 2024 2:44 pm

GET HIM TO A DOCTOR DAMN!!!!!

eddie_i August 25, 2024 12:13 pm

"how do i change the way i talk" YOU ARE AN UNDERCOVER AGENT IS THAT NOT YOUR JOB LMFAOOAOAAO

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