It's one of the best manwhas I've read, all things considered. It's super wholesome and i was rooting for the main couple the entire time. Size difference made me nervous, but it was nice nonetheless.
Ok. I understand that there is (hopefully) going to be a redemption arc for eyebrows over here or something, but at this rate; I'm going to literally drop the manwha if Dan forgives and FALLS IN LOVE WITH HIM. This guy is so shitty to everyone and just because he's famous or a celebrity does not give him the right to be a shitty person. Literally fucking abuse. If he falls for his abuser, I'm sorry that is a black flag at this point.
There is no way this is salvageable regardless of how gorgeous the art is.
Just drop it at that point bc why’re you still reading?
Right? If he has a redemption arc and THEN they fall in love, then ok, we can’t overlook that shitty beginning.... but like... that seme hasn’t soften even one tiny bit? Like what healthy feelings could Dan even have? ʅ（◞‿◟）ʃ
even if they drop it they're allowed to complain
They are but I’m just stating the obvious bc you can kinda tell it’s gonna go the way they don’t want it to go.
real upsetting seeing rape constantly covered in glitter in all these stories... especially knowing 14 y/o ''fujos'' read it and think it's okay concerning.
Bros fucking chronically online as shit, go touch grass instead of fighting everybody under the comment section, weirdo. I don’t agree with underage kids reading adult manwhas bc they’re mind is still developing but there’s nth wrong with adults liking fictional shit like this as long as it stays fiction.
LOL just block me anon.
(⌒▽⌒) I do go outside lol. Never 'chronically' been online. That'd require free time.
I'm not fighting anyone.
Nothing wrong with commenting. That's what they're for.
If you have a problem with my comments sorry, then.
Nothing wrong with adults liking fictions, but damn, this has zero plot...
Tired of the constant r-pe in BL, why can't [female] authors actually learn how to write.
Because I'm rooting for Dan. He's a compelling character and I want to see his arc. And I do plan on dropping it if there isnt even a hint of change (not that there will be)
Yk, so why do you still read? Bc at that point you have to be lying to yourself. Save yourself some anger and just drop it now but if you continue, yk that’s your fault?
We're all well aware. If you hate us bashing him so much...just ignore us?
"why do you even read it?" why do people always comment that?
If people can downplay rape because the excuse is 'he's a fictional character' we can bash his toxic ass all we want. What's gonna happen? His feelings will be hurt? But he's fictional.
We're curious to see what happens. What's wrong with people reading a story meant to be read ffs?
Son of a fucking bitch, learn to fucking read. Point out where I’m hating on that person for “bashing” him? I’m being real. Why would they still continue to read KNOWING the damn outcome? They literally said they would DROP IT, if the Ml don’t change and even they said themselves, they know he wouldn’t change, which was why I said, drop it bc they KNOW what’s gonna be the outcome either way and not waste time for their ass. Y’all can say whatever the fuck you want, there’s no problem but they said they wanted to drop it ( if there’s no change, which is obvious there isn’t ) so who’s forcing them to read? Like just say you want to continue bc you’re curious instead of making up excuses to read it.
Despite Mingwa's other work, an artist can change their stories. I'm not saying mingwa will but there is a chance they won't. its a 50/50 chance that the story goes in a different direction and a chance that it wont. I want to see what happens and if i see definite signs that its going to end up like BJ Alex then I'll drop it
The issue is that fiction often bleeds into reality. And it's harmful when stories like these are being romanticized so heavily. People, especially young impressionable people (who are reading manga like this because it's taboo, and they like reading taboo things) are going to take it a face value. not all but some. And I'm not saying you can't make art about topics like these, far from it, art is supposed to make people feel things, but it's dangerous to have a story where a character falls in love with someone who hurt them so much just because they're nice sometimes. And it might even make some people who are abusers think theyre behavior is ok because its in a manga they like.
Again, it can bleed into reality if the person who’s reading it has a WEAK mindset like young people who’s reading shit considered for grown minds. And no, it’s only harmful when they decide to bring it upon reality. If it STAYS in fiction and don’t appear on their minds when they don’t read fiction, it’s not harming anybody. Worry about people who are acc romanticizing REAL people. And it’s not dangerous at all when they’re not forced to read that “dangerous” story. You have to Blame it on the readers who CAN make it dangerous based on their actions. It’s a so-so bc some people that knows the concept of fiction know how to handle stories like these and don’t bring it to the real world while some dumbasses don’t get the concept and bring it to reality. And those abusers? They bring stuff to REALITY so they’re part of the people who don’t get the concept of fiction and based reality into fiction which is not good but there actions shouldn’t be put on people who gets fiction and would NEVER want to bring it to reality. And artists aren’t at fault that young stupid people are reading their stuff, that’s why there is age limits but they never listen.
ok, im not arguing anymore. I can tell what kind of mindset YOU have. good day <3
Okay, listen here. I understand the fundamental similarities between this and Killing Stalking by Koogi, But please DO NOT compare the works. Please. Ever no matter what. This is the artist's work and if you were to comment how similar it is to them, it would tear them apart. Never compare works or people, because they are similar yes, but don't compare things or say that you prefer this over Killing Stalking and vice versa. They are different stories. Different authors. Don't be sayin things like KS 2. It's not.
Yes LOUDER!! And as this fellow fujoshi said,just bc they have some similarities doesn't mean u have to compare them,,and its really uncomfortable u know?its like they're saying that this work plagiarized ks (and even before this came out on lezhin US some alrdy said that this work is just copying ks)when this work rlly did not
I'm not a fujoshi, I'm just a guy reading manga..??
But yes thank you
Where tf is this similar to KS? People just talk shit cos jeoh's hair looks like Bum's and Seong rok poker face like Sangwoo's. Then I don't see anything similar at all, except for the genre that is psychological and crime. This story is so good and the chemistry between the characters is amazing. It's annoying af seeing people comparing these two just for the small physical similarities. So yeah, I'm with ya, people can be so dumb sometimes.
Not people comparing manwah's to each other.
And bruh why they get romantic so fuckin fast
It's the ☆mental inestability ☆
I was scared halfway through this manwha. I thought it would end up being a Stockholm syndrome type deal and not only that, its a "im gay for you" story. I can't really stand it but the way the author knew everything she was doing with all of the psychological, social and personal affects of psychopathy made me appreciate that aspect of the story. Not to mention the art is stunning and one of the reasons I pressed on. My biggest problem with this, is it plays into the whole idea that someone thinks they can change a psychopath. It's a dangerous mindset and idea to spread, especially if there are younger readers. You can't change someone hardwired the way are, and don't try to. But all in all, I liked this manwha. I liked how gritty it was. It gave me Death Note vibes and I love the character designs. 8/10 id recommend it to psychology fans.
The goal of Kirin is NOT to change Moo, but to protect him by keeping the beast inside of him on hold (as he can).
Yeah, I don’t feel like this was a story where someone was trying to change the other. Kirin is well aware of the type of person he’s dating and he has no illusions of that changing.
Maybe some people could misconstrue some of his actions as trying to “change” Kang Moo, but he’s pretty much accepted the fact that someday the other party might go off the rails and there is nothing he can do but watch him fall.
I don’t think that’s something someone who wants to change someone would think and I don’t think that’s what he’s trying to do at all.
Exactly
The story is targeted at 18+
that's understandable. But like I did there could be people who believe that's what he's doing.. And even if something is 18+ doesn't mean there aren't people below that who are reading it. Reading this is as easy as opening mangago and reading it.
I think the tag debate can be labeled as a marketing thing. Japan is still very traditional and behind when it comes to queer rights and visibility. The author wrote a BL, and was labeled as BL. That's how its sold. But art is subjective, including text. Which means you are free to interpret a story any way you please, just like your English teachers did in middle school while you read To Kill A Mockingbird. You get to decide whether or not J is indeed a Trans woman or a transvestite. In things like BL, the "bottom" is seen as a female for being a bottom, which is a possibility when it comes to this manga. It took that literally. But I think that the tag is less important, and your feelings about it are what you should focus on. That is the reason we fight. It's heartwarming to see a story about a Trans woman. Even as bittersweet as this one. So please do not stop fighting, and let J be recognized as a woman, and not as the depraved, traumatized gay man who likes to dress as a woman this could be interpreted as.
TL;DR, fuck the tags, 2004 fucking sucked. Art is subjective which means J is a trans woman who went through hell and back to be herself.
Poor author, you could tell they rushed their ending. Not sure if it was intentional, a time crunch or their plan all along. Cute ending though (●'◡'●)ﾉ
I just KNOW the people defending JK and the plot are fucking gacha kids who discovered bl manga recently and are being absolute fucking freaks about this and defending a rapist who they would most definitely would want behind bars IRL theyd be getting their panties in a twist over on Twitter frfr
LMFAO TBH ILY FR
lmaooo no because fr like holy shit
exactly.
I understand the want for plot progression, I get it. I do. I know they want JK to change/''redemption'' and realize he's a fuck up when (and if) he loses Dan and for Dan to grow spine... but *defending* him? He IS sexually abusing Dan, what is there to argue?