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Ughhh frrr

Or they will marry

Of course, both scenario suggests that they have married.

Oh, my bad, didn’t get it at first

Skylar is not acting '' as he wants '' i am not defending him, i am defending Paskim because this is truly good depiction of a hyperactivation = triggered state of a person with ptsd. I really don't think Skylar is choosing to go to that exteme out of his rationnal mind. He feels threatened he is scared BECAUSE of what happened in the past (school environment + homophobia + bullying) :-( so he is in a hightened state (adrenaline surge + survival mode ) his nervous sytem and his reptilian brain are taking control he's in autopilot mode (that's the theory of Peter Levine for trauma and stress activation i believe dr Levine isn't the first psychiatrist who studied those hightened autopilot states due to stress + past trauma. It's a very realistic depiction. Personnally i have experienced twice in my life a state of hyperactivation and went full force and couldn't control at all. I was lucky nothing really bad happened because i couldn't control myself i was out of my mind. _ i think Cirrus won't be retraumatised by this experience, because Cirrus is used to ultraviolence he is not afraid of being beaten up , hence his reaction. That's simply not what Cirrus is afraid of. He is afraid of being abandonned. Not beaten. He doesn't care (it seems?) about being beaten , seeing that Cirrus continued talking as if everything was normal it's '' almost comical '' that he insists on continuing to talk to Skylar while Skylar is beating him up to silence him (!!)
Cirrus didn't even tried to stop Skylar nor did he tried to protect himself, as if he just does not care at all being beaten up by Skylar .
This scene is one of the scene that makes Lost in the Cloud very realistic in terms of traumatized x traumatized story.

Didn’t read the whole thing because we are thinking the same. I am sorry if my comment came out as insensitive. I understand they both have been through worse than hell and back. But the way everything is shown just makes me anxious and mad and I loose my composure a bit. I love the story though! Can’t wait for more!

I mean the writing is well thought out. It’s incredible, of course it is terrible what happened to them and seeing myself in that scenario, I know I would’ve never survived.

In a way I agree, but then again I remember that these are teenagers.

Yes, and who have been through trauma. It was just a bit frustrating

I don't see what u mean?

I kinda see what you mean, but I believe it is intentional since it really fits with the theme and characters who are living in an unforgiving world and tackling daily hardships together, especially as a gay couple, which is pretty tabu in korea. I think it’s beautiful how that constant anxiety is portrayed in their eyes and I think a lot of people can relate to the feeling of constantly feeling uncomfortable in the world, despite there being some good moments. The feeling of uncertainty also goes in line with the new and curious love they have for each other, They must be pretty nervous, and every boundary they cross will feel like a whole new world. :3

i don't really get what u mean? paskim has always put a lot of attention into their eyes and the emotions they convey but she's always been praised for this.. I don't really see the problem

Ya, that is a beautiful way to interpret. Thanks for sharing.

i kinda agree with you, I don’t understand how it’s so popular? i mean, the plot is somewhat interesting I guess, the art is OK to me (but that’s only my opinion!) and the only thing that everyone is really talking about it zhenya being extremely toxic and comparing him to caesar. Also the occasional hetero scenes really throw me off. But it’s everyone’s own opinion of course !

Right. I feel like people who like this stuff have gone unhinged, as well as the author. This is not just an opinion here. What has humanity come to.

You are judging people for their liking and someone judging you for reading BL and thinking it's the end of humanity. It all comes around. Lol.

It’s ok to be LGBTQ, but is it ok to love and admire sinful things, is being a killing machine cute? I would understand it if it was realistic and a phenomenal depictions of emotions, struggles, and growth. However, this story is just a fetish. Not a real story of love.

The sinful things you are talking about—can you elaborate on them more? Because lgbtq is still seen as taboo or sin by many, Films such as "Avengers" have lots of so-called killing machines. And people loved it. So people who love those films are also sinful? 

As you said, people are reading this for their fetishes, and I think there is nothing wrong with liking this kind of story as long as it doesn't harm anyone in the real world.

I believe OP is talking about murder, abuse and all that of zhenya’s long list of things he’s done and not the fact that this is a piece of LGBTQIA+ media. I really agree with you though, liking dark romance and toxic stories isn’t as frowned upon as liking true crime, action movies where people are killed - and comparing this to peoples’ character is wrong as well.

I think OP meant that people who just blindly consume this kind of media and just hype it the way this webtoon is hyped feed into the problem of rape, abuse and red flags being romanticized and normalized in the BL/manga community. I enjoy my fair share of manga in this genre as well but I do think it’s a problem how it’s always the same of very toxic and abusive tops just getting their way and in the end, being forgiven with barely and redemption!

Still, it’s important to keep this as a fantasy and the right people can differentiate between fiction and reality as you said!

Thanks for helping! That’s exactly what I meant! I am just trying to voice that people are trying to romanticize killing and such. I think that brings an impact in someone’s cognitive ability. I have seen people being unhinged and it wasn’t just in a fictional way, thinking it’s fictional. I am just scared. People can read these and they can also at the same time recognize that the characters are toxic and still like them, but I think romanticizing killing and abuse is too far, almost seems inhuman.

Love you for this tho, kind human!