"Oh the MC is so stupid and it's his fault" .....
The MC: depressed in his previous life abused several times over by both his parents and his lovers and fully convinced that if he leaves this game not only will be never see his lover again the one who he literally has nightmares about never being able to see again because he's the only person who loves him but is also fully convinced that he is actively leading his boyfriend and friends to death if that affection meter hits 100
You know I don't think stupid is the right word for it cowardly maybe because he doesn't have the backbone to just breakup with the guy without all the run around definitely impulsive maybe naive but considering he knows nothing about how this system works beyond this is a dating sim game which by nature of how games work probably has an ending I don't think anyone can blame him for that incurious as well it's frustrating to me personally that he didn't even try to figure out what's going on but considering his life before that's not surprising also traumatized definitely traumatized and acting irrationally because it's clear none of that trauma was properly processed (which given his circumstances that's unsurprising how do you tell your therapist your traumatized by a series of events that didn't even happen to you)
My point is given the circumstances the MC is genuinely not as bad as people are making him out to be in the comments (I wanna say something meaner about this but I won't)
The story itself is fine that being said it is kinda silly to me for him to keep calling himself straight like it's not actually that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things labels are arbitrary and if the people in the relationship are fine with it then it's fine
But like part of the reason a lot of straight men can sleep with men when they're not experimenting is because they don't view the person they're sleeping with as human but this level of romantic investment and care is definitionally not a straight thing to do
Though like I said it's not actually that big of a deal he could identify as straight for the rest of this relationship or his life and it won't really change the status of their relationship it's just kinda silly to listen to the whole speech and see someone go "I can't help being straight" while very gayly professing their love to a guy as a guy
Silly activities of little consequence
"Me personally I couldn't handle blah blah blah" well good thing this story isn't about you and that Kazuaki is a better person than you huh
say it louder! people get so annoying and preachy when it comes to sex work.
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Kitahara didn't decide to get with Minami just cause "oh no one else will stay with me" I'd argue that it seems like he has feelings for Minami for quite a long time but considering the fact that he one never even consider that he could be gay (which I honestly think is more likely than him being bi considering he's stated he's never had any deep feelings for any of the girls he was with almost like he isn't able to feel romantic feelings for girls) and two seems to be a very go for the least difficult option type of person you know the ones who never make a move because it's easier to just go along with what everyone around them is doing
I say that because it seems like a part of him was worried about what could happen if he actually got in a relationship with Minami considering his string of failed relationships and because of that it's way easier to just stick with what's worked (friendship) than it is to actually acknowledge his own feelings or Minami's it's why he desperately tried to convince himself Minami is a friend people who just wanna be friends don't have to convince themselves that they're "just friends" over and over again after all and it's also why his train of thought when Minami literally kissed him was to deny the very obvious glowing neon sign that said this man was in love with him
None of this makes him a good or bad person but it does make him a coward and that's just annoying
Kitahara could be Bi as you've said -> doesn't explain why his relationships keep failing. It's not about his sexuality, it's about how he couldn't work things out with his partners, and that it wasn't entirely his fault when he couldn't harbor deeper feelings for his past lovers. Also, he didn't just go along with anyone just because everyone around him were like that, he did go out with the intention of marriage.
Kitahara also never looked like he was worried about how things would have turned out if he had gotten into a relationship with Minami, more like he's doubting about whether Minato was really a right choice.
when Minato kissed him, like he really had to shoved it to Kitahara's face, telling him that he had harbored feelings for ever since they were in school. Kitahara was more like freakin oblivious type (which to a point of being dumb), which is why it's kinda ironic that he is a marriage counselor.
And also, who wouldn't be surprised if your best friend confesses their love for you. But the real problem was: what he said about how his three failed attempts of marriage, leading him to a conclusion that maybe Minami was his fated one after all.
Bruh, that's insane, like not only he was SO OBLIVIOUS towards all the signs Minato was giving, but also the whole idea of a fated lover seems to be stuck with him, and making Kitahara look like he was picking and choosing; hence, that's what it feels like he just settled for Minato because he just kept failing.
Then again, he could have went out with that other guy he met at the train station, but that prob wouldn't work out either :'> Finally, yes I agree with you this guy is just annoying AF.
Lmao MC can not handle a romance with his boss he's too insecure and flighty for this like I find the MC incredibly compelling but I find it fascinating that he's too scared to voice his grievances
I think the LI train of thinking is incredibly easy to grasp when they're at work he's the boss which means no explicitly special treatment or maybe it's more accurate to say no favoritism he's going out of his way to stay a hard ass in order to compensate for the new affectionate relationship when they're off work he's not the boss so he can be as affectionate as he wants it's not really all that complex
And if mc has a problem with it he should say that or transfer so they don't have to have a boss subordinate relationship because he clearly can't handle it
And that's not a bad thing everyone needs different things from a relationship NC is insecure and he needs casual affection to feel secure in his place in the relationship because history has shown that when that ends his partners are ending the relationship which is probably why he should have taken that transfer (or maybe not that one cause it's clear that team and boss suck) but he should transfer just in general it will make things easier for him
Lmao this is slow to y'all and saying there's no progression is just so funny to me
people are too used to seeing smut and sexual assault in 2nd chapter so they don't know how to act when a real story is being told (〜￣△￣)〜
He's arrested for drug possession instead of sexual assault now he'll definitely get jail time
Also sick of people calling the MC stupid going to shitty ex for sex after heart breaks is such a common thing and it's incredibly common for people to go back to abusive ex's even after they escape it's not stupidity that keeps people doing that it's brainwashing and grooming also how the hell was he supposed to guess this man would have date r*pe drugs of all things common
I'm tired of people blaming people for situations like this when the blame lies entirely on the perpetrators
Very common, I've seen an intelligent person become the most brainless when it came to a broken heart going back to the same guy 36 times thinking it could work again, but seeing it doesn't. =_= Like I, a sane person, pointed out the wrongness, but nah dumbness wins.
As you said, when you're groomed that way, then you do respond the way you're expected. Took the person I said before 10 years of an unhealthy live choice to realize when I decided to cut ties for her to wake up and realize something was wrong. I'm not one to verbally cut ties unless you did something so unacceptable that there is nearly no redeeming yourself. The last guy was the breaking point when I had to call the cops twice on the same dude because my life was now on the line.
Looking into programs to help and seeking the aid to turn your life around is the best case, but you can't just push someone to clean their act. They have to be willing to seek change. She's gotten the help, everyone supported her through it, she almost slipped up, but after 8 more years she is clean of all drugs, no longer drinks, and has made sure to treat herself better. A single bad case that can send your world spiraling in this "groom" state can really wreck your life. Finding the right people to be your support helps.
We can only hope our two broken fools can be each other's support and grow to be more healthy mentally. It'll be quite the plot to watch them.
no it actually was stupidity. he literally wasn’t brainwashed or groomed. he had successfully escaped and successfully stayed away for years even when he wouldn’t leave mc alone. being common doesn’t mean it’s not stupid. and his stupid decision to go back to the person who raped him judt to make ml mad does not mean it’s his fault he was assaulted, nobody is saying that. it’s stupid bc it didn’t have anything to do with the ex forcing him to come back.
Still you don't have the right to victim blaming him!
reread my comment and tell me where i said that, quickly
Love this manga to bits but the heteronormativity it hurts so bad
I'm too fat to take the whole "two men can't raise a kid" argument seriously