
people be crashing out like someone who has a guilty conscience...
if you don't have the same energy for horror movies, violent video games and all other "problematic" media, maybe try to think if your logic makes sense

The difference between that problematic media and this PROBLEMATIC media is that this shit tries to portray grooming and pedophilia as something normal and cute. Any media that attempts to normalize and romanticize such things deserves to be shamed and hated—along with those who defend it with their whole lives.
Take Berserk, for example. It's a dark psychological manga, but did the author ever depict rape and murder as something romantic? No. It’s shown for what it is—traumatic and horrific. But this pedo shit? It tries to make pedophilia look normal and cute. Learn the difference, dumbfuck.

@Itiswhatitis but it's not normalizing it anymore than IT normalized orgies in the sewers or Hannibal normalized cannibalism. I get that you don't like the argument that it's fiction, personally to me it makes every difference knowing that I'm not watching someone getting harmed, but even propaganda doesn't work if you have thought out conviction and solid morals.
If someone picks up violent behaviors from pieces of media the blame's squarely on them; it just doesn't happen to the majority of people.

That doesn't mean that pedophilic fantasies or propaganda should be normalized wtf.
Orgies are whatever, cannibalism is so extreme non-insane people would not even concieve of it as something possible and it is still regarded as disgusting and derraged af, but a 10 year old fanning over a much older neighbor to the point of fantasy is easily believable, because all adults have one way or another to contact children, so yeah, that one is obtainable and normalizing it WILL encourage pedophiles. Just look how much pedophilia there is in cultures that are obsessed with promiscuity. Their entertainment reflect those fantasies and encourage them, so rejecting them actually helps to prevent it because of social pressure to feel like the piece of living ill meat pedophiles are.

Hannibal does not normalize cannibalism but instead explores the act of consuming human flesh as deeply disturbing and morally reprehensible, emphasizing its psychological and societal implications. It is horror-themed for a reason. I haven't heard about the other one, so I can't say much.
Pedophilia is far more common in society than cannibalism or orgies, as the other person said. Every crime is the criminal's fault—obviously—but my point is that media/fiction portraying pedophilia as something romantic or normal incites and encourages potential or actual pedos, making them feel less guilty—or not guilty at all—about their actions.
For example, imagine a potential pedo reading this manga and then seeing people in the comments heavily defending it. How do you think they’d feel—guilty or proud? If you have even a single brain cell left, you’d understand what I'm saying.

So what i am saying is The LEAST you can do is keep your weird fantasies to yourself. If you’re going to read this stuff, read it silently. Don’t scream about how you want to see a fictional child getting groomed and worse. And don’t get offended when others hate it—it’s normal to hate pedophilia. Again, I said the LEAST you can do! Because I know y’all degenerates aren’t going to stop reading, no matter how much someone explains why it’s wrong. Even though I loathe the very existence of this pedo manga and wish it would get banned, I know it’s impossible. It’s disturbingly common in Japan to depict kids and minors sexually through fiction. But as a degenerate reader, you can at least be a little sensible and mature. The rest is up to you.

bro the problem isn't with having pedophilia in a story, it's with GLORIFYING it. i don't think any of the examples you gave made it a cute thing lol?? like it wasn't like "orgies in the sewer....so kawaiiiii!" lmao there's no problem with having rape, murder, pedos in a story, if they don't show it as a good thing

(@altereden @Itiswhatitis) it was an orgy of 11 years old, but that's beside the point, I could have given any other examples like South Park or Dexter; the distinction between horror and romance is a completely arbitrary choice you're making because you know that gta doesn't cause violence. pedofilia is overwhelming considered more disgusting than murder and I don't think anyone is getting emboldened by comments stressing to you the difference between reality/fiction; like come on, there's apparently actual CP on all the mainstream porn site (definitely twitter), we're slightly overlooking the real problems there're with laws in these "promiscuous cultures".
[and as an aside, I remember studies saying that the stigmatisation of non-offending pedophiles prevents people from seeking therapy. not a hill I want to die on though]
can you all really not draw comparisons from your personal experiences? this site is chock-full of stories that "romanticizes" lack of consent and people cheering it in the comments, nobody is going around raping people because of YAOI.
your line of thought isn't any different from conservative wanting to ban lgbt education, obviously I'm going to push against it.

Nigga you're beyond save atp i have already debunked everything you said before and doing it again would be a waste of time and like going back to square one so all i can say is CRY ABOUT IT. We won't stop hating on this shit
Also here's something to your "fiction doesn't affect reality, no one going around raping people because of yaoi" take
https://www.vice.com/en/article/manga-abuse-children-japan-sexual/
This is one of the many documentaries of such cases
And
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_pornography_depicting_minors
"Laws have been enacted to criminalize "obscene images of children, no matter how they are made", typically under the belief that such materials may incite real-world instances of child sex abuse

no one's talking about banning anything. do you really can't see the difference between shota oni and the examples you're giving? just think to yourself why are you so hellbent on defending this? Yea, people won't do such acts just because they read it in a manga. However such mangas give the perverted freaks a safe space for their thoughts. yea censoring is not the way but shouldn't people atleast 'crash out' like you said, so these pedos don't think this is normal. just see the comments, when they have a community, they start thinking such things are normal. this is a manga site, stop trying to deflect the matter. i have this same energy for the yaoi normalising rape, like you said. both are issues. simply looking at this authors's works, can't you understand what disgusting creep he is? https://myanimelist.net/people/17955/Miyuki_Nakayama
anyways on the topic of fiction not having a effect on real life, here's something you should read regarding the effects of loli/shotacon mangas on Japan (how it causes actual cp) read from pg 49 if its too long https://research.library.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1090&context=international_senior

@Itiswhatitis have you even read the links you've sent me? it's clearly stating that there's no consensus about this. the argument in opposition is presenting statistics going down even after the existence of lolicons. the one in favor are made up scenarios or one incredible niche case.
there's no peer-reviewed research here

I am honestly baffled by how stupid someone can be,i think you're the one who didn't even read the article,the article is literally an example of how PEDOPHILIA content incites crimes in real life.
"Akiyoshi Saito, a psychiatric social worker who treats convicted child sex abusers, said that though the direct negative impact of this manga hasn’t been proven, it’s CLEAR that the comics encourage assailants to commit sexual violence" the article says
"When Takashi Kato first picked up a comic book illustrating a child having sex, it became a turning point for him—this was the content he’d been looking for all his life.Increasingly, he sought more explicit content. When he physically abused children, he’d think of the images he saw in comics" IT LITERALLY SAYS "HOW HE INCREASINGLY SOUGHT MORE EXPLICIT CONTENT AFTER READING LOLICON AND STARTED ABUSING REAL CHILDREN" you dumbfuck

Your examples are beyond the point. In the orgy I guess you mean IT, which I don't know why you would mention when it is literally controversial for being fucked up and only people with your mindset give the blind eye to that aspect of the story. And the others are either satire (stupid af to bring up) or Dexter where the series is self-aware even during their most rosy glasses. Even then, vigilantism at least is a grey are in terms of morals, pedophilia is not so I don't think they can even be compared, the better comparison would be cannibalism which you left behind because it shows how stupid the original argument was to begin with. And again, you do not understand how detached from an atteinable reality most people consider themselves commiting murder, compared to how easily any pedophile can see themselves having access to a child. Even if socially pedophilia is frown upon, it clearly is just EASIER for pedophiles to get away indulging in their desires. So when there is a culture that fucking says "it's just fiction so let's enjoy pedophilic plots", guess fucking what? You embolden pedophiles. Or what, you think entertainment, and the law since you mentioned it, doesn't reflect the culture of the people that created it? Are you a literal child, or have you really not put much thought into any of this?
Just swith "pedophilia" with "alcoholism" and you'll see how foolish you sound.
You really think Japan, where girls, boys and women are groped in public transport and is totally fucking known to the point of being a well-known trope for decades, and ALL THEIR ENTERTAINMENT has an unhealthy facination with perversion, stalking and other sexual harrasment for middle and high schoolers is just a fucking coincidence? Don't you think MAYBE the way it is so normalized, made for comedy relief and always excused with "it's just a cartoon" (aka fiction) emboldens the people that are inclined to both watch and enjoy said behaviours to begin with?
You really think the readers of yaoi, specially the younger ones, are not at risk of developping a completely fucked up perspective on consent with all the fetish for rape and incredibly toxic behaviour????? Both becoming victims and perpetrators. Do you really think everyone consumes entertainment in one ear and getting it out through the other ear and they learn nothing, imitate nothing, think nothing, just turn off their brains while reading more than a hundred chapters of borderline pedophilia? Well, from people with your argument it wouldn't surprise me.
Stigmatisation of pedophiles makes them afraid?? Hurray! So it is for any fucking pervert that has a criminal kink. They were dealt terrible cards in life, but they should be fucking afraid because once they act on their kink they are predadors that deserve jail.
Do you truly believe you can compare that shit with "conservatives banning lgbt education"???? Are you one of those nuts that think teaching children yo give blowjobs is okay as long as you say yes homo or what??
Just what the hell is going on in your brain dude. Sick af or naive af, or both. Hopefully you'll never have to encounter a pedophile in your life or you'll miss all the massive red flags they'll show since you seem to think only the literal acts, not all the bagage behind, are the problem.
Muting this shit now, gotta clean my brain from reading your response.
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