I'm already caught with this manga but I wanted to ask about chapter 25 when yashiro and doumeki were doing it. why was yashiro crying towards the end of there sex scene in chapter 25? I am a little confused, I have theories on why he was but I not to sure if I'm right so if anyone can explain to me why he did I would really appreciate it.
and p.s. this manga is amazing
He was crying because he felt loved by the person he loves!!! And that scared him so much!! In the past he was in love with the doctor but that was just a one side love and that's all Yashiro knows but with Doumeki was so different, he was making love and not just having sex so Yashiro couldn't handle it anymore and started to cry!! And also because he was thinking about the future and both of them don't have any future so: the possibility of losing the only person who loves him one day (because we know if someone tries to kill him Doumeki will take it) + the fact they are Yakuzas + feeling guilty because he is taking all the good things Doumeki used to believe = cry cry cry and more cry!!!
Sorry for my broken English!! What I loved about that part is that all the mood was so... Sad and at the same time so beautiful!! I never cried at sex scenes before!!
Is this near the end where he had a flashback? He probably cried because he has been telling everyone how much he likes pain, "You really like pain don't you?" "Yep," he says. But with his sex with Doumeki he came so much even if Doumeki never inflicted pain to him and was being gentle.
What he meant about "don't break me" was that he felt like he's changing himself, or probably realizing how he put up an act all this time to become strong.
And that's why he is acting this way now!!!
All I can really say is WOW. This manga was one of the most painful stories I have read. I felt really bad for Arata, he loved Na-chan so much but not Na-chan just had to stab him in the back like that because of lust. I think this story is really interesting and has a unique plot because i have never seen a cheating manga go out like this where they beat the lover for cheating. In my opinion I think that Arata should had just given up Na-chan for good and found someone else who would treat him right. I think that's the ending I would have wanted. Because when i look at Na-chan with Arata now trying to rebuild their relationship all I can see is what Na-chan did to Arata and its hard to forgive something like that or build trust again. Anyway hopefully he wont do it again because Arata will surely be out of there, for i dont think he can take it if it were to happen after trying to rebuild everything again.
Anyway, this was a good read and this manga should have a higher ranking because i like her work but this one just made me so mad but i kept having me come back to see how it would end.
This maybe spoiler for some people so just to let you know
So chapter 40 was very interesting, we finally got to see parts of Sangwoo's past and I swear I was on the edge of my seat because I didn't know what was going to happen. But this chapter just made some of my theories go out of the window and I say this because it seemed like Sangwoo wasn't molested by his mom because you would have seen it during this clip and it seems that Sangwoo's mother might have killed the dad just from what I saw in the last clip when the mother said she had a secret of her own now. I think she couldn't take it anymore from all of the abuse and became mentally ill or unstable which caused her to either kill the dad or harm him, but I'm just guessing.
A lot of things are coming together especially when Sangwoo took Bum to go bury Jieun. Sangwoo had done the same thing with his mom in a couple of past chapters and his dad could have been dead already and they went there to bury him.
But anyway I'm excited to see what happens next with Sangwoo's past to get a better understanding of him and what was the breaking point for him to turn this way. Which it looks like it had a lot to do with the mother. And I also want to know how the mother died because I just can't tell anymore after seeing this chapter.
PS. The mom was very beautiful. i'm happy the author got to show one of the parents faces in this chapter.
This may have SPOILERS if you haven't seen chapter 39, so just a heads up.
The ending of chapter 39 was a little sad. especially for Sangwoo because towards the end he runs into a child who was crying and then the child runs to the mom. The moms hugs the kid to comfort him. When Sangwoo see's that he makes a very sad expression seeing that. Because that's something that he probably wanted from his mom, to comfort him when he was sad and to love him as a mother should. So it just mad me feel bad for Sangwoo and what he had to go through in his childhood.
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I really did see somewhat sadness in him but I always have to remind myself that this is Koogi :'> And in just a few more chapters you won't be feeling sorry for him anymore (￣∇￣")
Hahaha, that's true. Which makes me only have a little bit of sympathy for him for that scene but whatever crazy thing happens next with him I know I'm going to lose all sympathy and won't feel bad for him. Well unless he kills Bum's uncle and then I'll be on Sangwoo side because I cannot stand the uncle and what he did to Bum.
Hahaha, that's true. Which makes me only have a little bit of sympathy for him for that scene but whatever crazy thing happens next with him I know I'm going to lose all sympathy and won't feel bad for him. Well unless he kills Bum's uncle and then I'll be on Sangwoo side because I cannot stand the uncle and what he did to Bum.
i feel sympathy for his younger, child-self. nothing is worse than a pedophile and children who have to go through that massacre are victims of the society. Of crs that shit like this is going to fuck the child up, in some cases make them fall low or even become a criminals from various reasons. Children should be protected cause they are evolving and when they are still children their mind can get fucked up so very easily. That doesnt mean Sangwoo shouldnt be condemned and held responsible for his actions, but in reality the true guilty one is pedophilic mother and not even her but maybe father, who probably fucked her up too. And maybe that father had fucked up parents also. That is like ouroboros, never ending circle of crime and repeating what u got in your life from others. Such a pity we live in a world like that, that is never gonna change, no matter how we try... Very sad.
lol i have exams in 3 days and im writing about stupid shit again. wtf xd
I agree with your statement and it's true when a kid is exposed to abusive parents or a horrible living environment their bond to follow those examples they are exposed to and end up being that way as well. When it comes to Sangwoo is seems that there is a very high possibility that he was molested by his mom (I'm just guessing from all the comments I've seen people post and the small hints the author gave us) and abused by his father. Him going through those tragic events seem to have broke him inside, where there seems to be no chance of repair. It's like you said its a never-ending cycle of pain and misery. When I look at this story, I see how Sangwoo turned out because his parents and Bum is an example as well because he had problems and a bad living environment as well. But I think the difference between Sangwoo and Bum is that Sangwoo did something about his situation where it might be that he killed his parents. While Bum did nothing to try to escape from his problem. But anyway, I do feel bad for Sangwoo for the physical and maybe sexual abuse that he had to go through. But him killing people in order to escape the pain and reality is wrong and he should be in jail. You can as also blame the parents who caused him to act this way and be mentally unstable. Your right it's such a pity that the world is so corrupted like this but anyway I love this story and I can't wait to see where it takes us.
Ps. hahaha, don't worry I have assignments I should be doing that are due soon but I'm sitting here reading yaoi.
Yes, i agree that he should go to prison. To get justice for all the innocent women he murdered and tortured (and guys 2) - but i would also prefer for him to get a psychiatric treatment, therapeut or sth..it wouldnt help much, but it is the only thing he really deserves, or the child inside of him deserves. Nothing will turn back time and hive him loving family he should have had...who knows, maybe he could be a great man if the circumstances were different. He seems very smart and intelligent af, but now its all for nothing. Its the same as with Hannibal Lecter. As a child he was made to ate his younger sister if i remember correctly - which changed him and made him a psychopatic serial killer...and as he deserved the prison or even death, than i was crying af and also found him very pitiful, pitiable just as Sangwoo is. They are broken people, that should have been taken care of many years before present action - but no one cared then. They cared now - not when these poor children were abused and experienced horrible things, no one noticed and no one wanted to - now everyone cares, everyone notices them and maybe they will notice their hidden pain. I guess they think they dont want to be discovered and being pitied, but i think inside the children inside of them really want that. Maybe thats the reason. I have no idea. Im not a psychologist so i dont know, it just occurs to me that they are still the same children but with adults bodies and more experience. Sangwoo is childish so very often. Idk xd If we just think about what is happening in our world right now - we are practically making our own murderers sometimes. By not caring, not doing anything about all of the crimes done to children like raping, children trafficking, abuse or bullying in schools..lol, nvm me xD
Okay, so I don't understand why ppl keep saying that Sangwoo is disgusted with Bum just because he threw up one time. I think Sangwoo threw up because he was very much drunk and had to much to drink. That's why he did a lot of reckless things this episode. like for example letting Bum drive and talking about a murder he committed in public. Sangwoo was the one who mentioned about having sex with Bum and getting all touchy feely with him. So I don't think he was disgusted at all with Bum. Sangwoo has even kissed Bum when his breath smelled of throw up and he wasn't disgusted by that and this happened in the first season if some of y'all can't recall that scene. anyway I don't think he dislikes being intimate with Bum or else he would be the one making the first move in the first place
But he also didn't want to give him a blowjob because he might say something mean like "doing this to a man is disgusting". There's other evidence too, like when they did it on the porch he would only do Bum from behind and got mad when Bum turned around because he had to look at a man's face. Sangwoo is using Bum as a substitute for his mother and anything manly about Bum (like a penis) disrupts that fantasy. Anyway this is just my take on things he is super drunk so I do think that he threw up because of that, but he definitely is more attracted to Bum's feminine side.
okay I think that Sangwoo is using Bum when it comes to the comfort he feels like having his mom back. but I think that Sangwoo only wanted to be loved by his mom and their talk that apparently, his mom raped him or sexually abused him which could be why Sangwoo killed her because he found her disgusting. It's true that Sangwoo was straight, to begin with, but when it comes to Bum I don't think he has been disgusted with him from what I've seen. when they had sex and entered the house, sangwoo had bum facing him where he could see everything and he looked like Sangwoo was enjoying it to me. And when it came to the blowjob and Sangwoo not wanting to do that it just seemed like Sangwoo was not ready at the time and need more time to think about doing something like that. Bum was kind of pushing it trying to be in control and I don't think Sangwoo liked that which is why he took over in the end, having bum summit to him. Well anyway, this is just how i saw this situation.
It was going well at the beginning of chapter 38 and I was enjoying it but towards the end, you just had to fuck it up Sangwoo, you just had too. Now I feel bad for my baby Bum because it seemed like he was really hurt by what you did UGH Σ(っ°Д °;)っ. I don't want to give anything anyway but you know what I'm talking about if you have seen chapter 38 already.
I haven't read it yet but base on what you've just commented :'> I'm just gonna wait for the next chapter in next week cuz I really can't handle the stresssssssssss (￣ε(#￣)Σ
I m really curious abot what exacly u wrrite. In my opinion Swango behaived really nice to Bum on his standard. U talking abot what Swango didn t what to do? For me it s ok, sex shoulb be comfortable, if Swango didn t want to do this, then he shoudn t force himself. This same shoul be for Bum, but we know reality and that Bum does eevrything what Swango wants and be happy couse any attetion from him.
Same! I don't understand all those comments about how cruel Sangwoo was... Did I read different chapter?? My god, it's Sangwoo, he could cut up Bum into small peaces without blinking eye.. Did I miss something in last chapter?
I think you’ll like this episode, so you should read it. Nothing bad happens it’s just as sweet as the other episodes in this season. I think what got me mad was what sangwoo had to say at the end of this episode. But I’m extra, so what I thought was bad you would probably think was nothing wrong or you could agree with me. You’ll just have to see for yourself how you feel about this episode
I think for me in the beginning it was understandable why sangwoo didn’t want to do it in the first place. Because sangwoo was straight to begin with so I could kind of see it coming but I just felt bad for Bum because he seemed really hurt by that. What you said is true if your not comfortable with something be straight up about it instead of hiding it. And he put it in a good way where he could have been extremely rude. And then for me it had to do with what he said at the end of this episode which had me confused and questioning everything he’s been doing since this season started. But I could be reading to much into it than I need to be
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this is just my guess :) seeing how Sangwoo looking so tired and exhausted. And then he puked saying " I win" :'))) Are you sure that he liked that sex with Bum? I mean it could be because he was drunk but it could be both ╮(￣▽￣)╭ He didn't like men to begin with and he is probably still straight :V That's probably the reason why he puked :'> the reason why he wanted to have sex with Bum is still unclear to me :))
lol yeah I've read it :'> And I regret it so much :'>
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I didn't say Sangwoo enjoyed sex with Bum! :D
But if the fact that Sangwoo didn't want to give a head to Bum and then puked was as horrible as many readers write in comments, the Killing stalking would be different story :D Sangwoo broke Bum's legs, cut his face, almost choked him... Those were horrible chapters for me :)
bum is not half as innocent as you make he seem. He is a stalker. He is obsessive and manipulative.
I also think so, he can be more dangeruous than Sangwoo in the end.
Yeah, after reading some of comments, that could be the case. He did kill someone and he was a stalker which I completely forgot about. It’s just been so long so I forgot how he used to be.
Chapter 37 was really good, I like how we saw different sides to both of the characters but it leaves thinking that something bad is going to happen next because there is no way that Koogi is going to keep the sweetness going for a long time. All I have to say is that hope nothing happens to my babies┗( T﹏T )┛
So from what I'm understanding from this chapter and the comments is that it might be that Sangwoo might have been sexually abused by his mother and I didn't even think about that until someone mentioned it. and that actually could be the case, if it is I won't be surprised because it looked like his mom became crazy after the scenes or clips we seen her appear in and also Bum been raped by his own uncle so it could be why Sangwoo got so mad at Bum for not fighting back because Sangwoo might have gone through the same thing but fought back his mother while bum did nothing. It looked like Sangwoo was really scared of her so he may had killed his mom and father, but I could be wrong. His past looks like it has a lot to do with his mother and why he turned out that way because you mostly see scenes with his mother being there rather than his father. But i'm not saying that his father didn't have anything to do with Sangwoo acting this way either, because his father probably did abuse him just as much or more than the mother. Anyway at the beginning of this new chapter where he was with the mother and when he turns his back to pick up a knife and turns back around and see's Bum it looks like he's more at peace and calmer than when he was with his mother. And idk if its because he's either in likes/loves bum or is just depended on him but hopefully we'll find out in this season about Sangwoo past and what's in store for those two.
Well, u might be right, but I think dat she wasnt abusing him, but his father. When he killed both of them, the guilt of killing his mother could not leave him, dats why hes seeing her now. And ofc the trauma he got after all hes been through.
Than,if his mom was innocent, why did he kill her? Maybe the reason is dat she knew but didnt do anything, all through she was abused as well, or she protected his husbend when sangwoo was killing him, or u r right, there are million of explainings I can name.. eh.. ╥﹏╥
Yeah, what you said makes sense and could be a possibility. especially when you said that his guilt of killing his mother and that's probably why he see's her a lot more in his illusions or dreams. but I feel like the mother must have had done something horrible if he could kill her even though apparently he feels bad about it or him just being his crazy self snapped one day and killed his mother without thinking. but i just hope i see his past so i can make sense of why he did this. because he's the only one that we don't know his past or background and that seems to be to be a big part of this story to find out why he turned like this.
I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED. Like you have no idea. I have been waiting for months for the 3rd season and finally, it comes out in a couple more hours. I can't wait to see what happens (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
SAAAAME!!!
OMFG I BEEN WAITIN SINCE I WAS TWELVE FOR DIS ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
I was thirteen back then!! ヾ(☆▽☆)
Yas right, like this story, is the joy in my life that's just how much I love it ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
The mom is a fucking bitch in episode 53. Like what where you trying to prove by showing Sangwoo something like that in the middle of the night. Like I can't understand what your thinking at all you crazy ass bitch. Anyway this episode is pretty interesting but left me with more questions on what really happened in the past with Sangwoo's mom and dad. And what will happen to Sangwoo and Bum. Now I got to wait another week.
i really feel sorry for sangwoo he saw something he Shouldn't see it at this age my poor lil boy + i Don't know what should i feel towards her Should i feel sorry for her or though shes a bitch ?
well damn
I can’t feel sorry for the mom. I get that she’s sick but come on like, it’s like she really hates sangwoo and wants to see him suffer. She tried to kill him so I think all my sympathy I had for in the beginning of the series all went out the window when I saw her trying to kill sangwoo. It seems to me that it’s really the mother that made sangwoo the way he is because the dad seems like he’s very loving and caring to his family members. Anyway I just can’t stand the mom anymore.