I don't really understand what's happening.
Was he trying not to enjoy it? Is he trying not to still live him? There were no problem until he found out supporting character's dad killed his parents. Then he wanted to kill the guys dad but instead of supporting saying “oh hey, me too, let's fuq.” Mc said I hate you, rape me so I can kill your dad and sc said “k bro” and then.. ? He tried to have I hate you for no reason sex? I'm so lost. If I'm correct, not only does none of this make sense in any kind of reality, but it's also unnecessary in every level of fiction... Even something like FLCL this would still be nonsensical (FLCL is the show I use to compare to thing that are so random as to just be complete nonsense.)
*live=love
I Fricker swear if she only had even the slightest bit of self confidence she's realize he totally likes her and she could definitely have him more long term if she wanted. She needs to be with him sober I swear
You guys warned me. I figured I still had hope left. I'm sorry but he had an entire lifetime to learn his lesson. He said he wanted to test him right this time. I wanted to believe him. He had enough time. I'm out.
Good luck to those still holding out hope he might actually change this lifetime. I'll check back every ounce in awhile to see if he's even tried.
And no sir, you don't GET to be safe about RAPING the man you claim so passionately up live. You don't do this to the ones you love.
like and his face of regret at the end? so what if you "feel bad" after raping someone, no one gives a fuck abt what you feel when the guy you just raped is sobbing in the next room to his hospitalized grandfather. I have to ask the author what the point of showing his face looking sad. I can only assume they put that in to humanize him and make us go "aww he feels bad," ugh I just hate when they try to force redemption arcs down my throat
I love a good redemption arc personally, but some actions (i.e. Rape) are just not redeemable in my mind, except for in extremely specific circumstances (that even then are really more technicality based than actual rape based). It's more “does that really constitute as rape” and not so much “well it's ok because”. For example: yeah, it's rape but the mc is into that, he said so in the past, so although he's saying “no”, he's thinking “keep going”. I still have issues with that because in my mind no means stop. Immediately. But I'm not someone with that kind of kink and if the mc doesn't consider it rape, should I? (Still yes imo, but I'm hoping you see what I mean.) My issue stems at the junction pertaining to abuse/kink. If mc doesn't consider it rape, but everyone around him does, then that mean it's abuse and mc is only ok with it because they don't realize their being abused and it's all part of the manipulation? Have they been previously manipulated and therefore think they like someone because they've been programmed to think they like it so it was easy to be abused; and now in this new relationship are ok with being raped because they were so thoroughly abused in the past they took on their diminution as a personality and their abuse became a kink? In most cases we can't possibly know the answer to these questions because we're shown a tiny portion of the bigger picture.
All this said, in this particular situation, he said no. He even seemed to realize his “liking” of anything was physiological and afterwards lashed out. Which we'll yeah. I just don't understand the rapist. What the fuck was he expecting!?!?
Oh and my last paragraph of my other comment said “you don't get to be safe...” when it was supposed to say “you don't get to be sad”. So yes.
I'm just so angry. I also feel like no matter where this goes, the rapist is just a poorly written character.
It told me the was an update. I just wanted to cry to everyone. I'll need back when there's a real update
it’s a real update - chapter 64
I noticed late. I went to read it to see what happened last and realized it was new. For some reason my chapter had been turned grey so it looked like I had read it already. And we can't delete our posts so... Everyone gets to see I'm a dummy lol.
You can delete it. Go to the three lines at top right corner > homepage > activity > find the post, you'll see a delete option below it.
good do I ever wish Sunbae wasn't so fuckin' rapey cause otherwise they're so freaking adorable and my heart is currently in a puddle on my floor, but all the “no”s just kill it so much for me. What's with Asian romance and this obsession with “no, stop, wait” being akin to “yes, keep going, don't stop”? It's so absolutely backwards with North America heading gung-ho into consent culture, that it has me worried our youth will get even worse mixed messages than people like me, born in the 80s, did through romantic Disnificaton. This is especially scary with just how many people now immerse themselves in Asian cartoon media compared to when I was young. When I first started reading manga you couldn't get them in regular book stores. I know I'm old. But now that it's so much more pervasive, this worries me.
So although I really want to just ignore the rape and non/dubcon because let's be honest, no one is being hurt in the comic cause they're not real, I worry that some people will be confused by how the sweet moments make them feel and thing rape is part of it. I wouldn't care so much but falling in love with this kind of romance (saying no when you mean yes cause I was shy and thought I needed to be pushed into anything even remotely sexual) I was convinced that the abuse I went through was love. I was in no less than 6 abusive romantic relationships, all of which I had to wait until the last of them to even realize what they did was rape. That is NOT ok and I don't want other young people to go through that. It wasn't until going to court for custody of my child before I realized I was abused and manipulated into having sex without condoms in the first place. Don't get me wrong, my child is my entire world and the bio dad is not in the picture, but I should never have been brainwashed into falling for his manipulation in the first place.
So, I personally enjoy this story, I just wish there wasn't so much goddamn rape in these.
*I should add, If this makes you happy, I'm not judging. I just wish it would be clear that people shouldn't treat eachother like this unless Stef upon before hand.
*Stef=decided
Fiction knows no bounds, often delving into realms and ideas deemed unacceptable or taboo in reality. So, if this webtoon's storyline and themes clash with your convictions and boundaries, do us all a favour and exit stage left, morality in tow. If you've plunged a dozen chapters deep despite claiming discomfort, spare me the charade. Nothing grates on my nerves more than hypocrites griping about moral qualms while bingeing on the material they allegedly despise. Seriously, pick a lane and stick with it. (︶︿︶)＝凸
You missed my point entirely and gatekeeper is an ugly look on anyone. I realize I took it out on this story a little unfairly but my problem isn't with this story, it's the fact that rape is nearly expected in yaoi as a whole because there is a notion that for some reason pretending you don't want to have sex when you do, is sexy. It seems mixed messages. Not to mention that we don't always get warnings ahead of time. I like this story so I'm going to keep reading it. I can handle the rape, hell I've written worse myself. Like I said, my problem isn't that there is tape in this story, my problem is that rape isn't taken seriously in the entire romance category as a whole in all hentai related manga and anime (different spelling for different localization implied). I was just going off on a rant about it here because this story in particular is rife with it. There is no reason at all for this story to have rape. It's not about someone being raped, it's about someone exploring new kinds of relationships and falling in love with a new person.
Non-con has been a problem in Asian romance fiction specifically, I'm guessing it's because of the fixation on modesty that many Asian cultures grasp to, but it's confusing to young people. It's purity culture at its well, purest, and purity culture has and will always breed confusion and unhealthy romance and sexuality in relationships. I was just pointing it out. I also made sure to say that I'm not judging anyone who is into that. Just that if unknowledgeable about the potential harm, reading story after story where saying no when meaning yes it's the norm, people could end up getting harmed themselves.
true that noncon is unneeded and overly used in Korean bl, you're not the only one who notices, (not saying this in a rude way I actually find the nc kink really annoying too) but it's mangago and comment sections are for comments on the manga/manhwa/manhua etc, not for rants (again I'm not saying this in a disrespectful way, just syating facts) (and that message i posted is one of the many copy pastas floating around mangago)
saying that the comments are not for rants is a false the comments are so you can speak your mind and manyyygy people post rants into the comment section