I like the way the author did the smut scene, how they're both so into it and how intense it looks, a nosebleed from feeling too good that wasn't played out comically- now that's something else, really amps up how hot and heavy the top must've felt that in that situation, it's not something one can easily fake lol.
Also I think the author is trying to criss cross vibes throughout this work, it could be somewhat psychological with a top who has ulterior motives, or it could really be that he's an amnesiac who will grow extremely dependent on the uke. The title might be a red herring, where you assume the character reference is for the seme, but being crafty and witty in solving things might become uke's role in the future plotline too, and the "hounds" is really just the seme or something. Still curious why he looks like that tho and that slip on that previous chapter.
If ya don't know him, he's a real life adult content creator who does things with his partner, Ryota (they're a bdsm couple too!) I swear the creator took HEAVY inspo from him based on his general appearance and behavior, even panels 26-28 on ch12 is a legit scene that you can see from one of their actual videos lmao. If he was also driving a jeep and is into designer stuffs, or if the bottom's older by a few months (at least based on hardcore fans who knew them way back) the creator could be plagiarized for just using him in this work lol. I'm surprised they didn't put that disclaimer for this one.
Anyway, for this title you'd really expect some whack-ass, rapefest, cringe work with a toxic seme, but so far this has been really good. The communication and consent is *chef's kiss* and realistic btw- real sadists who are into the game don't just ram it into the sub, there's ALWAYS aftercare and prior agreement (as it should) because a huge part of it is trust, so both know that eventhough it's rough and brutal, it is intentional and the other party will never go to the extreme (ie. actually killing them for real), plus you want to do it again with that person right? so why dafuq would you give them a traumatizing experience in the first place? Those red/black flag semes could never, only people with dreams of landing in prison pull what they're pulling fr, I hope other creators take note of this, and I hope too that the author of this continue to have a good character and plot development for this one, since it's likely that we're still halfway through season 1 (unless they intend this to be just a short work).
Excuse me but the who?asking for a friend
check it out for umm *research purposes* you'd see I'm not lying on the inspo thing. Just go to X and look for Hiroaki x Ryota, the username is something like Ted5555? I don't remember if that's the correct number but there's a lot of 5s lol; they do to A TON of dates together but also does x-rated contents on myfans, literally the embodiment of sweet and spicy hahah
I just checked it out for research purposes lol the username was @ 55hxr
you're right, this one's the new account, I think? the first one was suspended coz X banned it for pornographic material (as if the site's not known for that lol) also it's the username that's watermarked on their OF videos (both sfw/nsfw) so it's what stuck with me, my bad.
Damn really? The more you know lol... the fact that X of all sites would do that lmao
Just went and checked it today . Well ddddeeeeeyyymmm legit heavy inspo
-I'll turn off my brain a notch for now and think this guy's really just stupid and couldn't read between the lines. So far it was shown that he lacks understanding on how his fetishes don't work for others like his co-actors in the stage play or his previous lover who just became scared of him. He might've genuinely thought that the top did agree to do the boombayah when he took his hands and came with him, still iffy though coz in a normal sense, the situation is still SA. But then again, the action does align with his character, I just hoped it was transitioned well instead to a better plotpoint. It's still 2 chapters in tho, I'll see some more if this will develop better coz this MC's interesting so far.
tbh it really took me by surprise on the later chapters when the ML was acting all innocent and naive coz his action and vibe on the first one (1-2 ch?) was like those unhinged characters that's barely keeping their insanity inside, also not to judge by the cover but it doesn't fit him lol, nothing against green flag MLs either specially those who are well written, but they can get a bit boring and flat at times, so this was starting to escape my radar.
This twist just peaked my interest on this work again- like why is he acting, what's his motive? what things are they hiding in that village for reals? If he's going for the play now, regret it later plot then I hope this will have a good chasing arc, specially since on the calendar where they were first featured he seemed so whipped for the MC too- here's to wishing a good "he fell first, but he fell harder" trope with this one
- it's coz people enjoy reading about these characters that's why, and some do go into these works for the plot believe it or not, if it's just gay porn that you're after then just watch an actual gay porn-- it's efficient, direct to the boombayah and you don't waste time investing in the plot only to feel frustrated in the end. Only people who read this for the smut justify these "twists" as fine coz it's "only fiction", of course you don't mind coz the thing that you were after was not affected at all. And before you can say, it's just cartoons, so what? people get attached to specks on some random walls just coz it reminded them of a familiar shape or something, it's human nature to care, nothing absurd about that.
Different people have different reasons for being triggered too, some are just very sensitive when it comes to these topic, some felt betrayed by the inexplicable diversion of the character that they were rooting for, and some like me are just pissed for the sudden shift of the tone that in no way supported everything that happened throughout the story- had the author given even just 1 sensible reason why the naive ml would take that course of action, I might've still understood and justify it for the plot, say the ml did it coz he thought the mc was playing him for his body- this would make the motive sexual, so him SA'ing mc would be punishment based on what the mc was supposedly after (but in the story he only knows that the mc played him for money and for laughs), or maybe if the ml was actually an incel in disguise who's just nice because he wants something in return and when it wasn't given to him, he lashes out, sure that can be something, but again, in the story, even his standoffish side was still due to his sheltered nature, he's genuinely childish, no way could he have that malicious intent from the get go, he didn't even want to do it bareback coz he feared it would hurt the mc, and now he's suddenly thrusting into him until it bleeds? it would be more believable if he punched him to a pulp instead, coz punching someone is a common course of action when you're angry, so it could be something that he picked up and adapted.
All of these are why the backlash for this story has been strong so far, it's not simply coz there was a rape scene (although it is a big concern) it's also because the author disrespected the understanding and trust of their readers by pulling this crap at the last minute too.
Thank you! All of this! If I didn’t care about the characters and enjoy the story so much, this wouldn’t have been nearly as upsetting. I got invested. I wanted fluffy romantic comedy with some minor angst. I did not expect there to be a rape scene in this. Had I known that from the start I wouldn’t have read a single chapter.
This was character assassination of the highest order.
Literally!! If it were a webtoon with a chara that did bs like this from the beginning I'd be meh, but this is someone who's explicitly expressed his distaste for noncon...
i wouldnt expect a story called slammed and rammed to uphold narrative integrity lol
no one does, that's why if you've read the comments, lots of folks were expecting stupid, silly, antics for this work with at least loveable characters in it. It was the sudden shift of everything which was handled and rolled out poorly by the author that was triggering.
the least they could've done is make. it. make. sense. Which they never did and never even addressed lol. This isn't a crack story that you read at like 3am where the characters and themes whiplash in and out like you're high on some drugs, this had a plot, a basic ass one, but a plot nonetheless.
but you clearly did expect it to have narrative integrity, thats why youre mad.
look, I wanted it to at least make sense, for all I care, ML could grow rainbow colored wings that blinds the mc towards the shadow realm when he's angry, does that mean it's consistent with the plot? absolutely not, it's even bizarre and would push it to crack territory, but can I find ways to justify it? yeah, even this crackpot development could still explain how he's unbelievably stupid and why his bro's so overprotective of him, ya can still pull bs that he had hidden abilities or that he's not completely human, it's relative to his character, not the necessarily the plot, and more importantly still fits with the overall work. A naive guy who literally has had no prior sexual interest before mc, suddenly getting angry and pulling and SA is just lazy writing for the shock factor.
Completely agree.
I read a comment saying that the reason why the rape "plot" was pushed's coz it's so normalized in k-fandoms/stories? I read the raws for this work on a k-site before coz I wanted to see the author's note if there was one (none yet at that time), and so far the comments that I saw were also pissed off by the direction that the author went with. I could just be wrong coz I only used a translator app, and maybe they were using slangs, i dunno, but can anyone confirm if this is true? is that really what the market there demands? SA plotlines? just seems lazy and a complete waste of talent if so.
Something can be normalized but it doesn't mean people support it. The MxM and FxM manhwas normalize rape so much its hard to find one that doesnt have rape or some form of SA in it despite audience stating their disdain for it.. it's really ridiculous and confusing. Maybe it's the company or the editors cause sadly rape stories are popular or the fact that because it's fiction people tend to write their fantasies (which includes noncon for a lot of people)
Giving it attention IS supporting it, regardless if it's to lash out or praise the creator. I see lots of pricks who dive into problematic works claiming that they're just "hate-reading" but don't agree with it and they don't even realize they're the reason the author is even continuing with their shitfest- it's coz they are there, they give them the hype and sales that they need to survive in an already highly competitive market, and of course other desperate creators see how it's working for others so they pull that crap too, and now we consumers are left with explosive diarrheas to read instead.
Yupp, this may be just my opinion but these types stories won't ever go away and we got to stop trying to come into these space and turn them into something we prefer, because as you said creators will see it's popularity (cause attention is still attention despite it being negative) and will do the same. If we hype up and give more attention to spaces we like such as pur sunny days, daytime star, the guy i liked wasnt really a guy at all, eycthen there will be more out there
(I ACCIDENTALLY PRESSED SEND AS I WAS TYPING ANYWAY CONTINUING ON)
Literally the best way to combat this is to ignore/mind your business. Give the ones who like these their own space while we thrive and uplift the creators who like writing cute and while stories, there might be a bunch out there who haven't had the opportunity to publish cause the editor/their company doesn't see it as something that will be popular or profitable or it's very underrated and they eventually quit and stop writing
ALSO us pirates aren't giving them a cent can't imagine hate reading while literally giving them your money.. wild
Yeah, ignoring is the best course of action, but it's a bit tricky too coz it should be called out for being problematic. I think moderation is the key, like if the general consensus is already that majority of the readers don't like it, don't add anymore, let it wither away into nothingness at that point.
Also, we might not be giving them a cent by pirating, but majority of publicity that they are getting are actually from us, why do you think creators who do witch hunts on pirate sites don't get the same level of fame? For one it turns off some readers specially those who has attachment to certain scanlators, another thing is that their works are not available on these pirate sites, only those who actually paid have access and that's just not as big of an audience for them. Another thing, is that some readers who do read on pirate sites might end up liking their work so much that they'd still buy legit copies or merch to support these authors- me and my friends do that from time to time so I can attest.
- but one that's more in line with the author's other works, or better yet make it a full blown psychological one, bitches like that should be fucked senseless so they know what it's like to be treated like that, seeing him descend to a complete mind break would be so satisfying. I don't get why authors use nice bottoms who are actually likeable in their SA plots, when they could very well use trash characters like this one.
Seo isn't trash :(
who's talking about him? he's not even blond, chile. I meant that blond twink who's the prince's younger bro, the one who's obsessed with the uke.
Weep and eat dust those who give this a low rating just coz the bottom's not the buff dude, there's literally a gazillion of those works out there on top of Bara which feature like 90% of those character type that fr looks like they're just f'ing themselves lol. And if it's just boobs that you're after then why not just read straight hentai or futa, daheck's so good about lumps that look so inflated it might as well be tumor, I like the natural looking pecs for men and perky chests for women, but the beefy ukes or fls in most smuts really do have their tits hanging so low, it feels like it'll pop so hard when you prick it with a needle lmao.
I get that of course that's just ya'll preference, but these too are also our preference, twink bottoms tend to be whiny bitches most of the time, or simps, or annoying virginal pricks, a dominant one like this is a treat, just waiting for more chapters and hoping that the plot for this one is also good and not a let down.
That was so fricking sudden and unnecessary, if anything the seme's character profile usually go for the ghosting/silent treatment when hurt, most naturally happy-go-lucky people tend to be like that a lot irl since they're oblivious and and realizing that they'd been played would make them to want to cut contact with the object of their hurt/shame, NOT overpower them via SA (these usually occur with the repressed types instead), specially since there was absolutely no prior indicator showing him with violent tendencies (he's just built huge), my guy wasn't even the possessive/obsessive type before this fiasco, he was also open to talk to the uke's ex and was immune to his attempts at making him jealous saying the uke is still with him, he just got ticked when the ex changed gears by convincing him that the uke does not love HIM instead.
I dunno if it's the author or editor who had this bright idea but it definitely felt like a fish outta water chapter, and choosing that for a season finale when lots of readers can drop it? how bold. Anyway, I'll stick for a while with this and see how the author pull it off, Driver's high had a similar downpoint too and I was sure to drop it, but then it ended beautifully, hoping for the same redemption here.
When I started this, I was mainly intrigued coz the author is known for recycling the same type of trope in their work (forced prostitution + angst) which tbh still works somehow? probably coz it's a bit psychological and well, angsty; this one was different, the beginning was fun and seemed different from their other works, I was genuinely interested, but now it looks like author just can't escape their roots and is spiraling back to it again, grinding the same boring and basic ass toxic tropes which fr does not work in this one AT ALL considering how they established the characters in the first place. The actions are so random, I'm starting to think author is really just rolling the dice on their existing prompts and then goes with whatever it lands on lol.