Neon_Gutz October 24, 2020 8:38 pm

I know that a lot of people don’t like Ryu Han, but I feel like that’s because we’re reading about him from Sang Hwa’s POV.

In Sang Hwa’s mind, he’s this poor soul who’s been in love with his best friend who doesn’t notice his feelings, and chooses to spend his time socializing instead. However, I feel like that makes Sang Hwa seem entitled. You fell in love with your straight bestie who you won’t confess to, yet expect to notice your feelings? And get upset when he pours time into his romantic relationships and not you? I think Sang Hwa is upset because he does “girlfriend things” and isn’t getting treated as a girlfriend.

And no, Ryu Han isn’t the best of friends at times. He doesn’t include Sang Hwa into his social groups, and he tries to control Sang Hwa’s relationships, all while keeping his own a secret. But hey, I’d be worried too if my friend were hanging w/ a gangster. Because movies/tv shows/books romanticize them, but in real life their nothing to play with. Even children get killed by gang members these days

    Misery October 24, 2020 8:55 pm

    True but it doesn’t change anything he has done. He is worried that hyung is a gangster (which he is) but he shouldn’t just assume he is a bad person. That’s really my only problem with him

    Neon_Gutz October 24, 2020 11:19 pm
    True but it doesn’t change anything he has done. He is worried that hyung is a gangster (which he is) but he shouldn’t just assume he is a bad person. That’s really my only problem with him Misery

    I agree. Ryu Han jumped to conclusions about Lee Gum without even knowing whether or not he’s really a gangster. He judged by appearances, and that was wrong. It would’ve made more sense to be over-protective after finding out, not before

    Jason October 27, 2020 9:44 pm
    True but it doesn’t change anything he has done. He is worried that hyung is a gangster (which he is) but he shouldn’t just assume he is a bad person. That’s really my only problem with him Misery

    I agree that ideally people shouldn't judge another solely based on their appearance, but I think that the author depicts Hyung to be a gangster, even Sang Hwa meeting him first time is uncomfortable, if it wasn't the case that Sang Hwa knew him before through the game I think he might have avoided him as well.

    Given the cultural context, I think it is fair to assume that Sang Hwa has been mixed up with Mafia business, which is a bad thing.

    As for me, Ryu Han has been depicted to be an antagonist because of the MC's unrequited love but I think that as a friend his actions are actually commendable, -him choosing to spend time with Sang Hwa over his lover, him eating the pancake Sang Hwa baked even though he is already full, and him being able to confront Hyung despite his intimidating appearance for Sang Hwa.

    Its just that Sang Hwa have feelings for him and expects him more to act as a lover than a friend. I guess the only fault from Ryu Hans end is being jealous that his friend is being taken away (which is normal and acceptable).

    I start to recognize that Ryu Han is not actually at fault when Sang Hwa takes it against Ryu Han when he ate the pancakes he baked even if Ryu Han is already full, and to begin with he doesn't even know that Sang Hwa have those type of feelings for him.

Neon_Gutz October 20, 2020 12:17 am

Don’t get me wrong, I’m really enjoying this manhwa so far, but the racial background of the main male lead is throwing me off a bit. Why, in a country full of brown people, was it necessary to have a (half) white, blonde haired, blue eyed man be next in line to be sultan? I don’t blame the elders for wanting Aska to be the Sultan instead. I feel like it wasn’t necessary to whitewash Ashan, if that makes sense

    Asia October 20, 2020 3:25 am

    #-.-)

    Anime4life October 20, 2020 9:06 am

    Same literally SAME like why the hell did the feel the NEED to put white lookin dude there like pls why

    GotHumor October 20, 2020 9:03 pm

    I think that's literally the point. They wanna kill this guy because he looks like his mom instead of his dad. Not because he's abusive, unpredictable, sociopathic, or a murderer, but just because he's white. I mean, y'all just literally agreed that the cousin should be next in line to inherit just because of how he looks. Not saying what the ML is doing is okay, just that maybe he's been forced to become vicious to survive just because "he doesn't look right"

    Neon_Gutz October 21, 2020 1:43 am
    I think that's literally the point. They wanna kill this guy because he looks like his mom instead of his dad. Not because he's abusive, unpredictable, sociopathic, or a murderer, but just because he's white. I... GotHumor

    Hmm... that’s a good point, I didn’t think if it that way. Maybe it’s because I’m from the US and there’s such a huge conversation of “white privilege” that I’m thrown off by Ashan, a white-passing character leading a country of people that are stereotyped harshly around the world. Plus there seems to be a romanticization of blond haired blue eyed characters in these types of stories. But Ashan being targeted because of that makes sense

    Asia October 21, 2020 2:58 am
    Hmm... that’s a good point, I didn’t think if it that way. Maybe it’s because I’m from the US and there’s such a huge conversation of “white privilege” that I’m thrown off by Ashan, a white-pass... Neon_Gutz

    Period

Neon_Gutz July 5, 2020 7:38 am

I heard that this series will be developed into a k-drama. I’m so excited

Neon_Gutz June 4, 2020 2:02 am

The criticisms about this manhwa are very much valid... the art is nice, but this is pretty much a watered down version of Solo Leveling. Not to mention, the plot moves very fast, the pacing of the chapters is abrupt, and we got no proper introduction to the main character . It’s ok to read if you like plots similar to Solo Leveling or Ranker Who Lives a Second Time, but I wouldn’t recommend

    crow June 8, 2020 5:07 am

    i'm over here still trying to figure out how this man knows how to use a sword fr

Neon_Gutz April 21, 2020 8:54 pm

The thing about consent when it comes to sex is this: once the consent has been taken away, anything that happens afterwards is considered rape/sexual assault. Ed said he would fuck Chang, but he most surely did not give consent to being entered. Plus, not only did Ed plead with him to stop, but he hit Chang in order to get away, and he was met with violence and a dislocated shoulder.

And to those saying that Ed lowkey deserved it because he taunted Chang and knew he was a criminal? Ew. Chang is a grown ass man, regardless of his career. That’s like saying a woman deserved to get raped because she was being “flirty” w/ her rapist. Plus, since when did running a criminal organization mean you have to be a rapist too??

    afroluv April 21, 2020 9:08 pm

    Most of the commenters agree it IS rape the issue is so many are getting off on it and squicking others out. And then there are a bunch of folks victim blaming...if Ed could've forseen the consequences of mouthing off he would've stfu.

    Oddly enough no one has pointed out that Ed got paid in advance for his escort services and then said 'so it was consensual' or some such nonsense. Ed did wanna give him a refund.

    Neon_Gutz April 21, 2020 9:17 pm
    Most of the commenters agree it IS rape the issue is so many are getting off on it and squicking others out. And then there are a bunch of folks victim blaming...if Ed could've forseen the consequences of mouth... afroluv

    That’s the thing about “consequences”. I feel like regardless of what Ed did or didn’t say, he would have been raped eventually. One, because this is a yaoi lol, it’s a common trope. Two, because Chang is deeply jealous of Glen and Ed’s relationship, and has displayed multiple times his feelings of entitlement towards Ed. And I’m surprised no one brought up the money either, I guess people understand that you can’t pay for consent. The rape doesn’t disturb me, the victim blaming does

    OpiSin April 21, 2020 9:47 pm

    I'm not reading any further in the comments.
    Because if anyone is victim blaming or in anyway suggesting that Ed didn't REMOVE consent or didn't say he no longer wanted it or stated clearly what position he was at ONE TIME willing to do needs to *urgently* re-educate themselves on consent.

    You could be totally triggering people or falsely leading others.

    Once consent is removed: It. Isn't. Consensual.

    afroluv April 21, 2020 10:01 pm
    That’s the thing about “consequences”. I feel like regardless of what Ed did or didn’t say, he would have been raped eventually. One, because this is a yaoi lol, it’s a common trope. Two, because Chan... Neon_Gutz

    Are you by any chance reading 'why is it you?' If not check out the latest chapter and the comments... http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/why_is_it_you/uu/ibx_chapter-29/pg-1/

    Im holding back hoping the whole thing was a dream

Neon_Gutz April 20, 2020 4:55 pm

Does anyone know what chapters focus only on Chanwoo and MD?

    Daisuke Kambe April 20, 2020 4:59 pm

    Ch. 84

    Mona_CL April 20, 2020 5:18 pm

    37, 52, 72 ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

    Furrina April 20, 2020 6:05 pm

    The only couple that matters

    Neon_Gutz April 20, 2020 6:10 pm

    Oop, thanks

    Milan April 20, 2020 7:10 pm
    The only couple that matters Furrina

    thats not nice-

    Furrina April 20, 2020 9:27 pm
    thats not nice- Milan

    ---est way to put it, but Alex and DG are a boring couple. Chanwoo and MD are the only ones that matter.

Neon_Gutz June 16, 2019 4:40 pm

Honestly, I think that the thing that is most shocking to people, more so than the rape, is that despite being a woman, the Queen has no empathy towards the male lead. I guess that because the Queen comes with a vagina and a pair of titties, she was supposed to understand what it’s like to be a victim of rape, however, people are forgetting that this is a woman of privilege and power. She gets what she wants when she wants, and she doesn’t have to think of the consequences because she has palace full of people who will obey her every word. This webtoon might be a fantasy drama, but it displays one thing very well: historically, this is what happens to people who become “spoils of war”. I am not comfortable with the rape, but I can appreciate that despite the gender reversal, there is a sense of realism as far as the Male Lead’s situation goes. I cannot be surprised about his situation (anybody who knows a bit about history shouldn’t be), but I can root for him to get from under the Queen’s influence and gain back autonomy of his body.

    mesa June 16, 2019 11:17 pm

    Well said! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Recyclepls June 25, 2019 8:07 am

    You said exactly what was on my mind

    Hot & Spicy July 4, 2019 6:55 am

    Let’s be real, most of the people who are making weird complaints are either underage-children or uneducated people. People who think with emotions but not with the brain or rationally.

    Lemv July 9, 2019 12:36 am
    Let’s be real, most of the people who are making weird complaints are either underage-children or uneducated people. People who think with emotions but not with the brain or rationally. Hot & Spicy

Neon_Gutz April 19, 2019 10:35 pm

Honestly, I thought that the Hyunjin with the broken arm was the real one, because he’s the only who panicked and tried to run. But that’s a little too obvious, huh?

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