smut and hot manga? yesss
beefy seme x beefy uke? fuck no (also,the seme is just a high-schooler not an athlete but somehow too beefy lol I don't find it believable)
that's really not my cup of tea but the plot is better than their looks,I think.it's not the best since it turns into a cliche monogamous relationship.Dropped it.
edit:femme uke haters who look for a "manly"(I hate this word btw) uke love this manga for sure.that's why they mass dislike my comment lmao
he's manipulative,possessive,obsessive and too jealous and insecure.What's wrong with the word "toxic"?? ahh it's because he's not a rapist lmaoo because he's doing the bare minimum does not mean that he's a "nice guy" or we should give him a gold medal.I think it's very strange and ridiculous not to be able to use this word.
Look at all your downvotes, lol. But what you say is true. To a lot of people only being physically abused is considered toxic. But Hyunhin was very toxic and manipulative. The way he would manipulate the situation to get wanted or the way he manipulated his boyfriend to the point of stressing him out and worrying him until he returned to him exhausted from stressing about their relationship ending. It's amzing how many people don't see this as a problem.
I wouldn't be so surprised to find put if many of these commenters are in toxic and emotionally abusove relationships and don't know it or they don't think it is abusivre and toxic because their partner is showing jealousy etc. It's a shame.
the sex scenes are so hot but this'd have been better if the uke wasn't having sex just with Kangbin.as an incubus, he had so many options however he didn't wanna use it.that's so ridiculous for an incubus to not have sex with others.I cannot stand the fan service for monogamous and alloromantic folks in almost all mangas.what about polyam folks? at least,this could have been a harem rather than this shit.I don't like it at all because of this nonsense.
I like the uke because he's pretty selfish and sexually active and I'm a big fan of dom/sub ukes.I couldn't care less if he's a cheater or not.maybe it's because I really get tired of seeing faithful and passive ukes in mangas.I really love it.most comments about this webtoon are very toxic and I think a lot of people are projecting their own insecurities and fears onto the uke lmao but I know that these "faithful" and "morally superior" people will always get cheated.it doesn't matter how nice they are to their partner,especially if their partner is a man.if you're new here, you'd better not read the comments.Lastly,cheating is a thing and real life is not a fairy tale btw
No need to bring down health, non toxic, non cheating relationships. They might seem "morally superior" to you and annoying, but if someone sees a character who's nice and think they're morally superior then that's more of an issue of the person seeing it as morally superior, to me he just has basic morals like "be loyal, don't lie, don't cheat", like exams, don't cheat ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ and if you talk about real life, not every faithful person gets cheated on that would mean there's 0 couples lmao, and cheating is a part of this world, doesn't mean its good. I like sadistic ukes cause its relatable, but sadism or a high libido doesn't equal sleeping around and cheating and stringing a guy along.
Dominant doesn't mean selfish, cheating and not caring, you're talking about narcissm, big difference. Glad you like it for some reason but calling the comments who find a narcisstic, cheating, 0 moral not even basic morals uke evil but saying he's great cause he cheats, and calling the 1st toxic honestly makes no sense, the uke has clear issues and is a toxic humanbeing, someone who was strong/dominant would not be as weak as him or awful as him a person who doesn't even know what he wants
I saw the raws.the sex scenes are so hot even though the story is so cliche and I don't like the uke's personality,I don't hate it much.I like the uke's nipple piercing and also the seme is not too beefy.I love that, too.I think the art is gorgeous, as well.I'm looking forward to the next chapters.
p.s. if the uke was a real person, he would be used and then tossed aside by the one who he love that's why the end of the manga and the seme who started loving uke and not wanna have sex with the others after he's had sex with him is very very unrealistic.
I love Nemu but not his personality.his looks is better.I think he's a pushover and
like a doormat but he's in love with an arrogant rapist,so I haven't expected him to change since the start of the manga.I don't like Maya's looks and personality.I just read it because of the uke and the beautiful art.
Honestly, everyone is entitled to their opinions. But I don't think the manga stands with some of what you wrote. I don't think Nemu is a pushover or a doormat. The manga shows, he has stand up for himself many times, even in the beginning. He has slapped Maya, he stand up to Juuta, and he pushed away from Naoya. Also, he has stood up to Maya many times.
Manga demonstrates Nemu does change a lot. likewise with Maya, he does change a lot too. For Maya, he was arrogant before he started to change but I don't think he is a rapist. It depends on how you look at and I understand how people gets that but I don't because of the material. Nemu never considers rape for how he acted or thought. He was forced in the relationship, he was blackmailed. He was sexuality assaulted. Maya did criminal actions but not rape. (at least to me for analyzing the material in Japanese, fan translation, and official English translation )I wrote about chapter 1 here.
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/4932916/ but I have look into a lot more afterwards. I do understand the definition of rape. Caste Heaven, Hogu Hagyeongsu, finder, Maki-chan wa Kare to Sex Shitai, Hua Hua You Long, does contain rape. Maki is traumatized, so are ukes from all these stories in different ways. But nemu was not. I stopped reading finder, Caste Heaven, and Hua Hua You Long. I will never be interested in reading anything about Hua Hua You long, but I would be willing to pick up finder again because I think I stopped when the fan translation stop because in volume 3, I think. I have heard a lot of things about it since then. And Hogu Hagyeongsu I will never read again.
However, rape or not rape. rapist or not a rapist.
His actions from the begin to his actions at the end are different. If we were to stand now they are in the manga now. Maya as atoned and Nemu moved on. Why still hold on to something from the past Maya. That is not who Maya is today and he is learning to be better. "It doesn't matter where you came from. What matters is who you choose to be" is actually a quote from smurfs 2. Who is Maya choosing to be in the current volume. So why hold something against him when he was on a wrong path as a delinquent. Without Nemu, he would be a worthless loser with no path.... he even said something similar to this to Nemu.
He said "no" so he didn't give consent. He threatened to get him kicked out of school. Just because he isnt traumatized doesn't mean it's not rape. What matters is whether or not consent is given.
I said I have “ It depends on how you look at and I understand how people gets that but I don't because of the material. ” and “ Maya did criminal actions but not rape. (at least to me for analyzing the material in Japanese, fan translation, and official English translation )I wrote about chapter 1 here.
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/4932916/”
I feel like you did not read my comment nor my post. I was defending both Nemu and current Maya. I don’t consider Maya a rapist... what happens in the beginning should not matter... since Maya has changed so much.
Japanese he does not say no ... he says muri and that means impossible. He consent to a few things there. Since he was also curious as well as scared he probably didn’t know he consented Or subconsciously.. it depends and debate.
Traumatized is usually what happens. Especially if there like Nemu, shelter, a virgin, and his personality. Sorry depending on how you look at Nemu was not raped. It is from what I analyzed. I have paces myself a few months before looking at it again. This is not rape to me. Where the other titles I named does contain rape.
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/4932916/
I know and seen you have a trigger and sensitive to the subject of rape. Which is totally understandable. It is violent, cruel, and should never happen! I do totally understand you but taking a few lines to attack an idea with out fully understanding me or my research is not right... I do understand your opinion and I see something differently.
English translators made him say no.... Maya did an empty threat but Nemu did not know. Most of the time people are traumatized, maybe in their own way. Yes that is what matters.
I have read your comment fully multiple times when all mine was mostly overlooked. I don’t appreciate it. But this is a fake manga.
And Maya has changed because of Nemu and Nemu moved on. It is just wrong to hold criminal acts on the current Maya. Everyone deserves a second chance. Yule from Hogu Hagyeongsu had a second chance and blew it. And Yule should have all judgements and Punishment. Him being in jail or the mental hospital should be what happened. Maya is not Yule. Not even close. And if you are this sensitive to rape Which is okay...... Please never read Hogu Hagyeongsu.
Maya is what he is at this point because nemu is like that. nothing can change that. all hail Nekota Yonezou sama!