Media literacy is dead for many and mean many tj stans because why am I seeing, even from korean readers, that the author nerfted tj when hes always been like that since the getco. Even saying that they thought tj was better than that when the whole flashbacks said he's worse than we thought. My god.
Gang is it wrong to say that I think this chapter (82) makes tj be the actual replacement? Ian clearly states before that he believes Jo is too good for him and doesn't want anyone hurt. So he's settling to start new with tj out of survival for everyone, not involving Jo and his family, and moving away from being targets with tj.
Some of yall sound like disonance stans. Yall are getting on my nerves because how come you all only come out when things look like its not in your favor because exactly where THE FUCK were yall at when Jo and Ian had their domestic arc and being lovely together? I didn't see the majority of yall anywhere, never loud to celebrate, on here, tiktok, IG and X? but once a "bad" thing happens yall come out so loudly speaking bullshit. Yall should just stay in hibernation if that was the case. Because yall sound exacrly like tj stans on X during joian domestic arc. Disappointing. I suggest you drop the story and don't look back not even when endgame is revealed.
FYI Ian character can be criticized but all I'm seeing is slutshaming and plain hatred disguise as critique. There's a difference.
Never seen such a group of readers lack reading comprehension on a story they are so called reading. You all realize these characters are very flawed and we are gonna see how wrecking they are before they move on healthily. It's a noir story and from I seen Jo is the one we need be scared of. He's the only one with the conflicting moral ambiguity and in the short time become attached with strong feelings. Not only that but he's metaphorically a hunter. Stop babying him when he knows there were consequences when wanting be with Ian. Stop devaluing Ian character, just because he suffer from his self destruction doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a better life in the future and for the love of BL gods stop the bullshit with tj this man only benefits from Ian suffering. "Pick one" as if Ian isn't built on condition since he was a teenager and still thinks he deserves everything bad. Image a 16 to now 34 year old man in that repeated cycle. My goodness.
Wow.. Ian basically reflected saying that the sex between them is just condition and nothing more.
Also, it's so sad that everyone has devalued him, so he has no value to himself. This literally goes both ways in the story and with the majority of the actual readers. This why it so stupid when I see the take that Ian should just be with tj and leave Jo alone. Ian deserves better too. Yall forget tj, David and the gang are the reason Ian reacts a certain way SINCE HE WAS NINETEEN, so why tf should he stay with him.
But here you can see ian has changed, he doesn't want go back and even tells that to tj. He thought of Jo and Ian hates himself because he doesn't want hurt Jo, he thinks he made the right choice in not telling Jo hes gonna come back knowing he might not return. Ian deserves worthy too.
I'm reading the story and wonder how people feel/see tj death when it easily shown he's not gonna die. Then I remember the space talk the author had saying none of the main three will die. Because honestly if tj does, that would just be horrible fucking writing. Jo and Ian can obvious be in a long term relationship even when tj alive but if he does die so many readers (even Jo character) will doubt the love and ain't no one want that.
But it is kinda ridiculous that many actually think the only way for Jo and Ian be together is through tj death. Anyway he definitely won't die but he may do a sacrifice that could lead to an injury, which could be a symbol of making up to what he did to Ian years ago.
There might be chemistry between TJ and Ian but there isn't an ounce of romance or tenderness as we have seen with Joe... If Ian is to heal, tenderness and calm is what he needs
This was so anticlimactic and underwhelming. Months of not seeing each other and the build up to their reunion and it's Ian getting angry and tj taking Ian to a dirty ass public restroom to fuck. You cannot tell me this relationship will last. It's like a subtle details that visually tells us how their relationship is going down the toilet.
Makes me laugh when people think the ML is bland when the 2nd ML was blandest of all. The typical nonchalant cold guy. He was pushy, judgmental and very heavy handed with her that when he grab her she freak out really badly, she had punch him because he wouldn't let go after she told to multiple times. Then on the date he reminded of that horrible professor. It was obvious with some hints he wasn't the ml and Baram never took interest with him. They had no dynamic what so ever. The biggest icky thing from him was when he told her kindest is what leads others on and she shouldn't be kind, this happen in early S2. So no it wasn't a sudden change he always been like that. Image hating the ML who's emotional intelligent and never cross Baram boundaries and always gave her space. I'm starting to believe deep down yall normalize toxicity as "interesting" with all red flags ML that's been releasing the recent years.
I miss Cain, I'm still baffled that the author confirm that his story is what made ytc... if she didn't make it about a love triangle it would be good especially because Cain whole background represents about the seasons and the author had confirm that in a now deleted Q&A.
So caught up with the comments.
1. Babe no one has time to mischaraterize tj when those flashbacks say enough. He does it to himself.
2. Ian and tj don't have anything other than sexual chemistry but no compatibility nor chemistry outside the sexual aspect. Basically a dud. Don't get high tension of the unknown confused with chemistry, it's completely different.
3. Tj cheated, regardless. Using women to his benefit is no excuse just because the gang is homophobic. He was in a relationship, unless the girlfriend allow the fooling around. The cheating is not important to the story but it could display unloyalty in his characterization
Finally a good Doomed Yaoi, yes I'm sad but I been craving tragic BL in manhwa for awhile. It's a refreshing emotion to see us fall to pain
Jo indirectly saving tj. For the first time Jo made me mad lol like bro get tj out of here. I'm sick of him. Been in the gang for years and couldn't even read the room that they wanted him gone. Never seen an dumbo gang boss before.
So the ML even in the last chapter is treated like the 2nd ml because why tf are those the last panels and her telling her child that as if that's the final message. I like the ML he is definitely much better that blondie but the way the author still focus on blondie is embarrassing.
Nothing annoys me more when I see ppl say Ian needs end up alone or needs find a new guy (3rd guy). JO IS THE NEW GUY, most of yall are acting like the 3rd guy won't go through what Jo is heading into. And it's not wrong for Ian to have someone while he's healing, why cant he still have someone by his side while going to therapy. He still needs a support system. My god if yall don't understand the story then move it to a new story. This one isn't for you
Also, tappy needs to hurry with the official translation because I already see so many incorrection in the fan one...
I did see a few spoiler regarding the next two chapter and I can say 59 definitely hits hard in how Ian sees himself. He doesn't think highly of himself or gives himself self-worth he deserves. He always thinks he's dirty and used up basically giving rather than wanting. Here is a prime example, he doesn't necessarily say he wants it, he says it's what tj been wanting.
But still at least for him, he still controlling who he goes to. In his profile when wetsand released it said Ian doesn't stop those who go to him, nor prevents them when they want leave. So if he sees someone who does want him he'll go along because for him that's still his control in allowing it. Then when they leave he doesn't force them to stay like how David did to him. I hope what I'm saying makes sense.
Anyway, there's so many thing readers miss regarding Ian and I feel like could be one of them. I think this chapter (59) is meant to show us Ian mental state regarding how he views sex, which some have already pointed out that sex is a form of coping for him.
Seeing those red panels is giving me hope Jo will use that gun in protecting Ian one day, without guilt tripping, and to see what's he's fully capable of doing for the one he's in love with. We don't know much about him, so seeing him, a regular guy, development into this different life will be intriguing.
I too want to know what Ian really wanted to check. Ian is getting all these new emotions (?) and doing things he hasn't done before, like camping and having roasted marshmallows for the first time, which goes with how he related his experience with Jo feeling like it's his first time. It's all new to him (again?). I'm curious how their relationship is going to develop more once their feeling/attachment gets more strong.
[because we don't how it will lead it could either positive or negative of obsessive love.]
the meaning that the author was trying to convey was profound, but the presentation was piss poor
Have never been so happy over a story to end. I still don't understand why it took so long, my hate for Jooin kept growing each chapter.
And one last time for the record: Team Cain, he was treated so bad, but don't ya'll worry, that cute puppy is with me now and I'll give him the love he deserves.