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HELPPP LMAO FR

I just have a thing for bitting and obsessive tops. But yeah the naming is ridiculous. "Eater" and "food" or something would have been better (seriously which 13 year old came up with "fork" and "cake" ?)

Can't BELIEVE what I just read

The question is am I wrong ?

Have you no shame? No qualms about the things you've stated?

Calm down

I was having a hard time about my love for this man and decided to make it everyone problem and I’m quite proud of it

I hope one day I fell in love and feel the same way for someone

I also hope you do

Ty bro

Most based thing I've read on this site

this is amazing and so real

True but if you think about it, he didn't really solve anything by being a punching bag. They still went after other people in their free time anyway. If you don't solve the root of the problem then the problem never gets solved, only ignored and delayed more than it should have ever been. Which only condones their behavior even more while uplifting their massive ego because of how much they are able to get away with (however I agree with the killing part) even tho they deserved it but that's just me. I'd also be sceptical if I were him tho because

Damn the emoji isn't supported on here

By sacrificing himself, Haruki did manage to reduce the number of victims significantly. It’s unrealistic to expect him to stop the bullies entirely when he obviously couldn’t fight back or fix a systemic issue alone. Haruki’s mentality was never about ‘fixing’ the bullies or the root problem, his actions don’t condone the bullies’ behavior. He never supported or justified what they were doing. But in his mind, taking the hits himself was the lesser evil. He knew he couldn’t fight back, so he became the shield to keep others from being hurt. For him, it probably felt like the only thing he could control and while it’s not perfect, it’s far better than just standing by and watching the situation get worse

Yes, I'm not saying he was necessarily in the wrong. The system is to blame, but he did in fact not lessen the victims completely as it was impossible for him to be around 24/7. He focused more on a temporarily resolve rather than fixing the main issue.

also yes, in a way he did condone their actions because he showed them what they were able to get away with without any consequences to their actions, which only enabled them to do more. It isn't his fault, he is the victim, but if he wanted to lessen the victims there was better options logically

In case you don't understand what condone means: to accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue

Even if that behavior was directed towards himself

I get his logic tho, again not blaming him. It was the failed system

Don’t worry I know your not blaming him I could tell from your comment

I’m pretty sure it’s canon that they only bullied him and not other bcs he was always there for them to bully. Also all this appart I can’t get what other option he really had ?? The teacher didn’t gaf the student didn’t gaf he obv couldn’t fight them and a girl tried to kill herself (or did I don’t remember) and the police didn’t do shit.

I think there is a difference between our definition lmaoo bcs in my language condone mean you take their side, excuse their behaviour and accept it. haruki inaction stems from fear and survival, not complicity

And I know it’s probably not your intention and that you didn’t mean it like that but saying Haruki condones the bullying because he doesn’t stop it leans into victim-blaming because it unfairly puts responsibility on him *a victim* rather than the bullies or the authority figures who failed to act. It implies that he’s partly at fault for not stopping the abuse, even though he lacks the power or resources to do so. Think of it like a person getting mugged in a neighborhood where the police don’t show up. If the victim gives up their wallet instead of fighting back, they’re not condoning the mugger’s actions. they’re trying to survive

My og comment was aimed at people who blame him for getting bullied just because he didn’t stand up to his abuser.

Yes. I don't remember if they got the law involved though. Only the teachers and school board didn't do anything, and I don't think any of them were from influencal families (unless I'm misremembering or forgotten. Correct me if I am wrong pls) If they did get the law involved I don't think they would be able to cover it up. However I'm unsure how exactly the law works on minors in the Korean law system. There is a penalty based on the crime committed but I've forgotten what exactly it was.

However there was a lot (and I mean a lot) of evidence of them doing illegal actions. Rape, SA, physical assault and more. Because the sexual assault was recorded and taken of minors, it was a criminal offense which would have had much more impact and repercussions. Especially because the victim had committed suicide. Although she was a background character, she didn't get any justice either. Resources were limited but not zero, although I know very well it's definitely not as one dimensional as it seems.

*Side note: I don't mean it in a way where he was condoning it on purpose. (It does not necessarily mean you 'take their side' although it can, another example of this is by simply being a bystander to a situation, allowing discriminatory actions to take place to yourself or others, etc). A long term ongoing situation differs from a sudden fight or flight robbery with stranger(s).
*I might go over this in another comment with an actual example but I am about to catch some sleep lol

He shouldn't be blamed for not stepping up. Not at all, I am just speaking from a multi dimensional standpoint that focuses on everything as a whole and the consequences it would have in the long term

It wasn’t explicitly mentioned in the storyline, but if someone committed suicide, the police would have to get involved. Since the bullies aren’t in prison or transferred to another school, I assumed nothing significant happened to them. I’m not exactly an expert on Japan lmaoo, but from what I’ve researched, it’s relatively common for the police to take little to no serious action and instead pass the case back to the school or family. In Japan, the juvenile justice system focuses more on rehabilitation than punishment. Even in cases of severe bullying, harsh penalties are rare, and cases are often redirected to family court instead of criminal court.
The bully family situation was never mentioned so we don’t know if there are higher up or no but but once again in Japan it common that schools downplay or discourage formal legal action to avoid negative publicity, which can result in police being pressured to step back or handle the issue unofficially.

HELP WHY DID I SAY KOREA

I meant Japan. I haven't come back to this series since I first binge read so for some reason my memory forgot it was a manga

Yes true, the story I don't think touched on this subject as to if the law did get involved at some point, to any extent, or if everything was blown under the radar. (which seems unlikely, but because they were a threat to almost everyone at the school, it was possible that no one involved the police out of fear for being outed as the one who 'snitched')