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He's acting. When Luhuan said "I feel bad" meaning when he saw Yuyang being cornered like that he feels bad, but Yuyang thought he meant "I feel bad" as in he doesn't feel well. When Yuyang got concerned and starting holding on to him, he acted so that he can hold Yuyang a little longer.

I know what you’re saying I just don’t know that I agree. I need more proof that LiHuan is acting.

Cool.

What are you trying to say cause it’s been deleted

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Yeap... i read some comics that are from China and a man without a shirt is covered in white (censored) and sometimes when we are going to read a page it appears the message that I must be 18 years old to read it... only to see you xan see a dorso of a man or a french kiss between the protagonists...

For the moment they don't censor gayd relationship, but while you can see a man on a woman (she being fully clothed) and the next explain they had sex (after you click that you have 18 years old) you cannot see that in gay comics... they only kiss and later they try to let you know that they maybe had sex...

tbh im over it im over the internet in general i much rather would like to pay at this point than read washed down content that wasnt supposed to be what it is now. there are so many porn sites with porn ads so there is a way to finance sexual content with ads. wish there would be something similar for comics

I guess it's a lot like the age-restriction guide used in the movie industry. It's not mandatory to follow them, but they are required to access a lot of benefits that wouldn't be available without their approval seal. You can see that in some movies the people have their limbs severed with an axe and not a single drop of blood is shown, right? That's a tone down made to get a better PG-rating, with less age restrictions to fit a larger audience. That means more kids in movie theater and more revenue.

Wait. But in China, censorship is a bit random. Anything that would hurt the national culture or whatever might be cut out. The rules are not clear. So the content producers cut it down before it reaches their audience, in order to prevent their business to be shut down.

As I can see, some authors, like DJun and Circle's author do, is to publish their material in a wide access website (like Dongman, Kuaikan) and publish the "sensitive" material separately, in some other platform (Lofter, Weibo). It's a pain in the ass, but this is the price to achieve a wider audience AND give what the hardcore fans really want.

Sadly I'm talking about great chinese artists that have to censor their own comics... and I haven't found how to get a real copy... less in english or a language that I can understand...

But we also can see how some of these artists play with the restrictions they have to show us what they want to show us...

Also they must be careful because China governement is really sensitive and anything can offend them!!!

Exactly my concerns. I wonder if they created their comics in entirety knowing everything they had to do to publish or if they published and were told things to change because of the BL content. I wish there was an international site for publishing yaoi that was for adults only. I don't want to see blacked out areas in what I am reading or to find that suddenly a story I am reading is just taken down. That might happen soon on Line Webtoon.

This is probably why a lot of the Chinese webtoons end up coming off as quite immature in terms of the plot. Where characters that are adults, live like they are still 14 year olds at school (cough Finally living with my anti-fan) and the plot ends up revolving around idiotic misunderstandings and treating any sexual content with innuendo, because they can't be explicit in showing anything. It's not the artists fault that they have to abide by such restrictions, but it does lead to usually poorly developed plots when they are so highly censored. Look at all the comments here that think a character making some daft innuendo about Lihaun and Yuyang going to suck each other off in the toilet is some big deal, rather than just childish humour because that's as much adult content as they can legally show.

I think we can see we are not getting any scenes like that depicted in this story! But on the other hand, DJun is clearly a sophisticated artist and very clever - content could be conveyed with facial expressions and other artistic means if DJun wanted the story to go that way it could probably pass the censors, if the original site is in fact ok with even suggested homoerotic content, which I am not really sure of.

Not only him... I have seen other chinese artist that are good sending the message across even with the restrictions!!!

this-

Following~

I thought he’d only mentioned he’d liked a couple of guys but nope, on ch24 pg 15 he mentions he had two relationships before. For some reason, I forgot about that lol.

Thanks I remembered reading this but forgot the details...

After such a strong pinch? Damn, I think he is just enjoying YuYang's reaction and playing dumb (⌒▽⌒)

hello!!! chinese-american here, you're right that chinese artists and creators often restrict themselves in order to not get censored. In china, media is heavily controlled by government, and LGBT subjects are very taboo as most of the nation's powerful leaders are old conservatives :( in fact, just a few months ago there was a crackdown on Weibo that attempted to remove all LGBT content, but due to mass protest, it didn't go through! that is to say, the environment towards LGBT in china is very harsh, so you should support these artists as much as possible! it's also good to be aware of how terrible the censorship/dictatorship in china is!

Thank you for your reply, many of us forget that this comic is not from a country that is cool with BL like Japan. I have seen Old Xian post some sexy images But they are not within the context of the comic itself and often, like the more current post of He Tien with a spiked collar on and no shirt, he is alone, no homosexual content there. I am sad that this country would censor LGBTQ content and artistic expression but I hope that some of the people that are clamoring for depictions of graphic content with these comics will consider the artist's situation and be a bit sensitive. We are lucky to have these comics at all, really.

I never knew that! A male Yaoi mangaki, that’s rare

Mangaka*

Oh God, you opened a world to me ... °____°

I always had a feeling Old Xian was a Guy! I’m happy to know it’s true!

Old Xian is a woman, but she uses a male persona online. She rarely ever puts herself out there in public and, although she has shown her face, she is not really keen on that and wears her character's mask.
Also Old Xian is a character that represent her in one of her mangas, Mosspaca.

Awwwww, shucks. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

+1

This makes sense to me because that name Old Xian, of course its not her birth name. I wonder if the same is true for DJun, the Chinese mangaka who writes the webtoon Here U Are. I don't think I really understand why she would choose to do this but its not for me to question it. Thank you for correcting me, its better to know the truth.

For YuYang I don't really know how to explain but I understand why he did this since it's LiHuan and not someone else... Yes I don't know how to explain this and yes sorry for wasting your time. Also you got a point there about LiHuan but one sure thing I know is he likes YuYang.

I think YuYang was getting self-conscious because he’s actually starting to fall for LiHuan without realising it and it making him a little flustered, because he said he’d be able to treat it as a joke if it happened with Huanwen (we him and Huanwen were mistaken for a couple earlier in the manhua as well and they both just laughed about it) but because it’s LiHuan it’s got him a little flustered. And as for LiHuan’s non-verbal nature, I get the feeling he’ll probably start talking more and more as the manhua continues, because he’s already opening up and talking more with YuYang than he does with other characters. Even if he doesn’t though, he tends to express a lot of what he’s thinking with his eyes and facial expressions (I’ve never seen an author able to pull this off better than DJun holy shit), but I definitely get where you’re coming from

why would he even care if he thought some strangers were looking at the two of them and making assumptions? When the news are spread by word of mouth, both people in the couple are considered as "out of the menu". No good for YuYang, that is feeling lonely, and for LiHuan, that he still perceives as another straight friend.

Smart? as in "street smart", I have no idea. As in "test-taking smart", he is about YuYang's level. When you take those national tests to enter a university, your score will tell you which courses are available for your score results. I guess being in the same university and taking the same course will put them in similar positions. That's just my way of thinking, I might be wrong about that.

Thoughtful? He protecc but he also attacc! Putting a band-aid in YuYang's cheek, rescuing him from a dangerous drunken state and getting into fights for his "friend" ... The man is loyalty itself!

He is just a bit quiet :) Yeah, I know, people don't feel so much at ease with this kind of trait, but it's just something you need to get used to.

IMHO... I don't think it's about him (Yuyang) being gay that made him self-conscious, but rather that it be misunderstood that he and Lihuan were dating. Lihuan is straight, and Yuyang probably didn't want him to get into trouble ( like being targeted by bullies, etc. ).

Lihuan is the silent type, it seems. But what he can't say, he puts into action.

It can make for a long period of misunderstanding if LiHuan never expresses verbally that he might not be 100% straight or that he likes YuYang. But perhaps this is just the way DJun prefers to write / draw this character. And I still think in my understanding of YuYang's character he did not act in a way that makes sense to me with the shop girls. Its just the way I see his character, no way would he be sensitive about girls that never even said anything, they were just looking at the two of them, and its not like these people are associated with their university so its not likely in my opinion that they would start a rumor and spread it at YuYang/LiHuan's school. But thank you for everyone sharing their view, I just really enjoy reading about others' views about this series!