OH MY GOD I CAN'T KEEP THINKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING AND AT THIS POINT MY HEAD IS FULL OF IDEAS AND CONCEPTS AND PLOTS AND PLOT TWISTS AND WTF. I JUST READ THE WHOLE MANGA AGAIN JUST BECAUSE I SAID TO MYSELF "LET'S READ IT AGAIN AND LET'S SEE IF YOU MISSED SOMETHING" BUT OMFG.
Okay. Okay.
Now... Christoph.
Can we talk about this little, suspiscious man for a second here!?
After this chapter I have so many... ideas.
In a past post I explained why I thought Christoph was the most suspiscious. And hell, I still stand by my words. He's too suspiscious.
And can we talk about that little ending right now?
I don't even know how to put my emotions in words, so I'm gonna try ╮(￣▽￣)╭
First we have the Logan thing. And I still say that this is some sort of plot. My bets? Ryan hired Logan so Logan could keep an eye on Christoph. Why? (Aside from the fact that I think Logan is as loyal as a puppy). Can we talk about the fact that Logan searched through Christoph's room? Why? Why did he do that? I mean, he might've been cleaning, but he even found sleeping pills. WHY. DID. HE. SEARCH. THROUGH. HIS. ROOM. (And we have seen Ryan doing the same thing. With Logan, no less. When Kyon and Ryan thought Logan was acting suspiscious. Now, they are doing it with Christoph and I am kung-fused.)
AND THEN!
WHY, just WHY, would Christoph go and tell Karis to talk to Cecilia?
These are his words:
"Mr. Ryan doesn't want her to leave. In fact, I think Mr. Ryan is somewhat suspiscious of Ms. Cecilia."
LIKE OH MY GOD.
Ryan doesn't want her to leave? WHEN did we see Ryan saying such a thing? WHEN.
I THINK Mr. Ryan is somewhat suspiscious... YOU THINK!? he THINKS!?
They said it themselves, Ryan and Cecilia have been friends since forever, WHY would Cecilia would do something against her friend??? (I still don't get why people say Cecilia fears Ryan? I mean... she doesn't seem too scared of him, to be honest.) ... (Also, I've stopped protecting Ryan because at this point, I don't even doubt him. So~)
(〜￣△￣)〜
So, here comes my next bet: Christoph wants Cecilia to stay, so they can have a distraction. Also, it does put Karis against Cecilia and Karis' words might be important in a near future. But with what Christoph is doing... behind Ryan's back, it puts him in my top of the "Suspiscious people" list... which only has him. Yay.
Oh god. I feel like I'm over-thinking this but honestly, I might have a trauma. A little one.
(￣∇￣")
You have opened my eyes as to why Christoph is suspicious and I agree with your theory 100% but
Christoph is beautiful and looks so pure so half of me be like `he wouldn't do that look at his beautiful face and his childlike eyes`
I agree that the author seems to be going out of their way to make us suspect Christoph, which is exactly why I don't think he really is the culprit, as it would be super anti-climatic.
So. . . my money is on Christoph.
Even more after this chapter.
I HAVE SO MANY THEORIES NOW. SAVE ME.
Like I said in a past post of mine, I highly doubt it's Ryan. So, I will push my baby boy aside for a second here. I also doubt it's Kyon; a person pointed out that if it were Kyon the one poisoning Lucaon, the 'curse' would've been removed already because, indeed, Kyon regrets it. So I'm going to push this boy aside, too. (Honestly, if someone could prove this theory a little bit more I'd be grateful? I have read this thing so fast, I might've skipped a few details, but for the moment, I'm trusting this theory~)
Now.
I really did not want to doubt Cecilia (my goddamn Queen), but so far, the only theory I have against her is that she was the one checking everyone's memory but no one was there to check hers... so, pushing her aside for the moment, now I only have one suspect: Christoph.
(I am not even doubting Karis because... uh, no. He might have a grudge against Lucaon but honestly, no. I doubt he'd do that to Sihan's close friend. Thanks.)
SO NOW AS TO WHY I DOUBT CHRISTOPH EVEN MORE NOW, A LIST:
ONE; Logan's face. Did anyone see how Logan was looking at Christoph when Sihan was explaining the situation? I don't know, it raised a few suspitions in my head. Logan is such an easy-going guy, I have my doubts when he has doubts written all over his face (he didn't make /that/ kind of face with Lucaon. With L u c a o n. Then, why with Cristoph?). Is like that one thing when you doubt people when your peaceful dog barks at them.
TWO; and why I think Logan's presence is so important. Him being in Sihan's house seems a little coordinated? To begin with, it seems like Ryan wanted him there to "help" Christoph. Why? Why would Ryan want someone helping Christoph? (I mean, it's known that Christoph can do a lot of things by himself, then why? why all of a sudden?). My bet? Logan is someone Ryan feels he can trust. Simply for the time they have spent together back at Lucaon's place (and the fact that he seems to be reliable?).
THREE; How much do we actually know about Christoph? Why does Ryan keep him between eye and eye? It might be care, it might be some sort of love even... but what if it's not? (I'm putting so much trust in Ryan but honestly, I have zero doubts on him so ╮(￣▽￣)╭)
And maybe I'm being too harsh on Christoph... but I have experience doubting the silent guy in the room and then being correct on their shady-ness.
Lucaon has to survive or I swear, I will personally feel attacked by a fictional character. I don't like to see him suffering like this. Goddamn. Just when their feelings were starting to be clearer. I love this. I love the drama and the closing fear of losing him.. but my baby boy doesn't deserve this. I'm conflicted and probably pulling theories out of my ass, but Christoph is definitely my bet.
After reading this I can’t unsee Christoph as the main suspect right now. It just fits too well.
Buuut I feel like Rain, Cecilia's right hand woman or whateva, can be a suspect as well. She's just too quiet and also has like so much trust put into her. Just like you pointed out earlier about Ryan saying it being best that someone that wasn't related to Ryan OR Cecilia be involved, I feel like Ryan has suspicion over Rain AND Christoph. Iddkkk
well , in the last chapter my thought were like "i think it's Christoph " but now i think logan is the culprit ( just a hunch )
you know i think it's either Christoph or Logan
Yeah, I thought that too. Like at the beginning before Kyon started working for Lucaon, he was recommended to work for him by a friend. And ever since then, you didn't see that friend anymore. Also, when Logan was first introduced, he said something about he was glad getting away idk. It was implied that he worked under an aristocrat previously before Lucaon. IDK ANYMORe. I have like 3 suspects in mind: #1 Christoph #2 Logan and #3Rain...
Jaeha baby doesn't deserve this >.>
I'm usually the first to love/support and shit the 'bad one' in stories.
But not this time. Not with Eunho.
He was there, right /there/, when Jaeha drunkenly admitted some serious things. It was in Eunho's hands to actually be an adult and talk things through.
Why would he make Jaeha go through that shame? Or put him uncomfortable?
(I'm already hearing people telling me "but he orgasmed!" Well, shit, of course he did. It was a dildo and a vibrator. Constant touches against his prostate can cause that)
But I just ┗( T﹏T )┛
I have to insist they need to talk instead of having sex.
No matter how masochist Jaeha is, this is not okay.
And no matter how hurt Eunho is, "pushing him against a wall so he won't have a escape" is not okay.
I love the story. I really, really do.
But the smut is unnecessary.
Think about Eunho's acumulated frustration... do you think he can be normal, i mean have a healthy normal behaviour?
Eunho loved him so much so deeply waited and tried again and again and Jaeha accepted his love and interest even reciprocated it... But then out of the blue he just broke up and lost all connection..
I am not saying any of them is in the right here... just that they are people they have complex thoughts and it's no surprise they just push the limits avoiding the real problem... Like most of us do...
exactly, I agree 100%, wish I could like a reply
I get y'all's people points, I really do, but I can't stop thinking (and siding up) to Jaeha.
Jaeha had his trauma, too. Not only Eunho did.
And maybe it was idiotic of him to trust that teacher in the first place, the one who I suppose was his first love?, but still, he loved, he trusted and at the end, he was tossed aside like trash.
That's a scar that can be permanent, too.
And the way he deals with it is 'caging himself up', or like the wife once said, 'You're the most important person to yourself' kinda thing. I don't blame Jaeha from protecting himself, not after what happened.
He doesn't trust that easily... and again, like I have said in other posts of mine, I think people are forgetting his trauma.
Put Jaeha's lack of trust, put his trauma + add the fact that Eunho wanted to seal the deal. . . of course he would close himself up again. Because, yes, he fears. He has doubts.
I dunno, I spend an unholy amount of time studying characters, but this once, I'm in Jaeha's side xD
Of course, but that doesn't mean Eunho can always take the hit and forgive him.
The boy stood there for all that throughout the first season untill he finaly reach his limit, I guess.
Sure, if he had pushed one more time, things may have worked back then, or not. But the way it all ended... they were at a point where Eunho though they're finaly over with all the pushing and I think he was just so exausted that when it happen, he just did nothing. I myself felt exausted just with that plot.
I'm not siding with either of them, because they both have a lot of things to solve. So my point is that both of them have things to figured out, and we can't just take in consideration Jaeha's trauma 'cause at this point Eunho is kinda traumatized and hurt too, as you can see for the way he's been acting all season.
Again, not siding with Eunho either, it's a really important factor what you're saying about Jaeha :)
This is exactly what i thought, thanks for putting it into words ..
I get ya, too! Dx
I'm not discarding Eunho's trauma. . . but I do think he pushed a little too much.
I stand my ground with Jaeha, though. I can't start to understand how Eunho is behaving.
I mean, I get his hurt, I really get it... but he's been acting this way that makes me irk.
He's been pushing Jaeha even more. Whether it is appearing out of the blue at the atelier (is that even how it's written xD), and demanding sex or making Jaeha go through certain situations that make it seem like he's uncomfortable.. I just can't.
I understand that he might want to get his point across, but I can't condone the way he's doing it.
I just... they need to talk. Not have sex. Not pulling the sadomasochist cards. Not pushing buttons that make the other snap. No. They need to talk. And it turns me nuts that they aren't. My frustrations has been through the roof these last episodes (alas, I'm a masochist because here I am ╮(￣▽￣)╭)
I understand Eunho's frustration but the way he's relieving himself of that inner anger is utterly baseless. I hope the character wakes up and ceases this behavior (from spoilers it seems like thankfully he does snap put of this shit). STOP EXCUSING SHIT BEHAVIOR JUST BECAUSE THE PERSON WAS HURT. There's this thing called SELF-CONTROL :-O !
Yeah, of couse not, and I agree with that. There's just things that he's been doing that are not okay and are leaving Jaeha so unconfortable that it's unconfortable and painful to watch. They just really need to talk, that's key at this point.
Both you and me, this pains me every time. I see 'new update' and it's like "oh shit, here we go again", ahaha. Thanks for replying (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I wasn't excusing it, I was trying to make you see both points of you. It's obliviously not okay some of the things he's been doing, it's painful and unconfortable for anyone who's been reading this since the beginning and it's attached to the story.
Eunho is frustrated and with frustation comes anger, I think he just wants to desperatly be with Jaeha and since he didn't know if and how to get back to the way they were, he's been acting like an idiot. Imagine what it's like thinking you had finally the full trust of someone you loved all your life, someone who never opens up, opening up to you and then it's just all gone and every time you look at them now, you must get so frustrated and angry...you know what I mean? 'Cause I myself feel so freaking frustrated with this.
Again, I'm not on anyones side, I could talk about Jaeha just as much tbh, and that's why I kinda jumped on this comment when I saw someone taking a side. They both did wrong, the relationship is broken and they desperatly need to talk and stop this bullshit and that's that.
I agree with you, thanks for the thoughtful reply
. . . and I go "I ship it"
Goddamn.
Why. I can't be shipping more ships, damn it. I have so many I might as well have more ships than years in my life span.
(▰˘◡˘▰) can I have them together, pls. Young-Jun already met Joonjyuk's family. It's just one step closer, baby.
Young-jun is fucking adorable man! SO KYOOT!
Joonjyuk belongs to the cute woman, soo you can only dream on ╮(￣▽￣)╭
That cute women is evil
You're such an adorable salt nugget, aren't You? (I saw your post about us shipping, darling. And shipper or not, everyone deserves respect)
Let me ship what I want to ship. Go spill your venom somewhere else ;)
Lmao word
So. . . how annoyed to I have to be by Go Siwon for him to actually realize he is a dumbass?
I swear.
A few chapters before, he started to get on my nerves. He is so damn. . . idiotic.
He can go and talk to Lu Xuan, but he can't stop Kang Jun? Give me a break, kid.
And after everything they've gone through, he also decides to make Kang Jun feel like shit. I'm done with you, Go Siwon, honestly.
I mean, I get the fear he must be feeling . . . coming out of the closet must not be a nice experience, even less so when you're practically forced to. But it's different to have that nagging fear towards society and being a totall asshole to the one who's supposed to be your partner.
Even morE SO WHEN YOUR PARTNER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INCIDENT, GO SIWON.
I'm getting grey hairs. I swear. Σ( ￣□￣||)
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE RYAN IS THE CULPRIT, OKAY!? OKAY.
Let's just put all the cards on the table, yes.
Ryan was the one who saved Lucaon to begin with, that first time. He stopped the disease before it could kill Lucaon.
Ever since he woke up, he's been looking after him. Yes, of course, he got a little asshole back there, trying to eliminate Kyon, but alas, he was just trying to protect Lucaon and if anYONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THIS, I HOPE THEY OPEN UP AN OREO AND DOESN'T HAVE CREAM ON IT.
I really want to know why my baby Lucaon has to suffer like this. But gawd, when I find the bastard that did this...
I don't think Kyon had anything to do with it. If all, I'm between Christoph (isthatthename) or Cecilia. I mean, Christoph, to begin with, was the one who was with Kyon when they were cooking for Lucaon. I mean (〜￣△￣)〜 a little too fishy. And even if Cecilia is my goddamn Queen and I want to doubt this theory too. I mean. She was going into people's minds to see if any of them were the culprit but... who checked hers? I DON'T WANT IT TO BE MY QUEEN, BUT MY BABY LUCAON IS IN DANGER AND IS2FG (╯°Д °)╯
lol I think Kyon was brainwash and did it without knowing ╮(￣▽￣)╭ just my guess. he already show it before.
But kyon regretted it and felt sorry,, that should be enough but Locaoun core is still corrupted
brainwashing don't work this way, even if he say sorry for 100 times. it's not really his fault and he can't really stop it now so.... ╮(￣▽￣)╭
He still felt regret for him getting poisoned though? That's all you need to cure.
^-- This is such a good point, though (づ￣ ³￣)づ Oh goddamn, such a good point I'm wheezing.
it won't really help if the brainwashing will come back and he try to kill him again, without knowing he doing it. I"m not hating on him, but my guess is that it is him that did it.
No way he did it but well,everything is possible in yaoi
well it only my guess and consider he did try to stab him before ╮(￣▽￣)╭ you cen't deny that he is brainwash to do it.
WHAT IS THIS.
When they began with the whole "Someone is standing out there" I was like... it can't be Dong-Hyuk, he's not the creepy type. . . therefore: Yule.
BUT I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT FINALE, WTF.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN.
I stand my ground that they are both perfect for each other. They're flawed, corrupted and kinda broken and whether they bring out their best or worse, I do think they fot each other. I want them together. And what happened with Dong-Hyuk must have changed them somehow (just as we see with Kyung-soo already) but now I'm wondering how it changed Yule???
My psycho baby???
I have questions. . . I'm not ready for this story to end, autor. Pls. Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
First of all. . . whom the fuck (and do notice my formal speech here) sent the photo to the wife!? WHO!? The first one I could think of is the other buddy. . . the sex buddy. . . my baby whose name I can't remember for the life of me. THAT ONE. But I don't want it to be him because he's my baby and I want to have doubts about ill intentions against Jaeha. But if it's not him, then who!?
(Because, let's face it, for Jaeha to drink like that, it must be someone important and. . . who else is important in his life? The teacher, perhaps? The one he used to have a fling with? But yet again. . . the teacher thing happened a while ago, didn't it? I HAVE QUESTIONS.)
And then, this. The thing the ex-wife said;
"Because for you, you're the most important person in your life, and getting hurt is your biggest fear."
YES.
I mean. . . I don't like the accusatory vibe this gave me, because I do feel she still holds a grudge against Jaeha (and I mean, with good reason but my baby, you get). BUT YES.
I think Jaeha is scared to get hurt and I don't see anything wrong in considering one-self the most important person in one-self life. If all, I think it's a mechanism. I sure hope Eunho and him don't end up having sex again because it doesn't fit the moment... yeah, Jaeha is drunk af, but he's being honest, not it all depends on Eunho and how he handles it. He can't keep pretending to be a sadistic fuck, he can't keep pushing Jaeha. They need to t a l k, not screw around in bed until one of them goes dry.
I have emotions. Don't touch me ╮(￣▽￣)╭
(. . . who am I kidding, I'm still crying xD)
Ahem.
(First of all, before I write about my undying love for Yule, let me remind you that I am a lover of the bad guys. . . I don't expect people to agree with me. That said, I won't be answering barks again. It's too tiring to try and explain why I prefer the villain-y guys than the others so ╮(￣▽￣)╭)
AHEM.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YULE REALLY TRIED TO KILL HIMSELF!?
I'm still crying the tears of blood.
I don't know if I'd go as far as to tell he did it out of regret? Like I've said many times in past posts, I don't think characters like Yule get to feel guilty for what they do. If all, they do the things they do because they CAN, because it doesn't cause them that sort of 'stomach-churning' feeling when they do it. Therefore, I have my doubts about the guilt thing.
Now, the reason why I think he ended up stabbing himself?
Because, indeed, the damaged boy loves Kyung-soo ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
I've said it many times but those two really complete each other.
I was hesitant about Kyng-soo's feelings at the beginning, because, uh, yeah. . . obvious reasons, but after everything he's been doing towards Yule. . . I have no doubts.
For Kyung-soo, Yule was that twisted part in his life he needed. I mean, the guy is a masochist, but Yule also gave him the emotions he needed apparently. Like that one time when he was ruffling Yule's hair while he was having a nightmare? and telling him how Yule got all calm after Kyng-soo touched his hair? I mean???
And for Yule, it's even something more.
I think he DOES love Kyung-soo (in his own, twisted way) and that's why he had residuals after Kyung-soo went away. The sleepless nights, the way he had no will to eat or even move. The way he remembered and missed. Not to mention these last episodes where it's obvious he'd do anything for Kyung-soo.
Goddamn, he stabbed himself because the other was giving him no choice. It was Yule or Kyng-soo and Yule chose himself instead of doing one of those "backstabbing bitch" moves.
People that say this is a plotless manga or whatever and I'm here just studying each and every one of the characters because all of them are interesting! ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
Honestly.
This pair is what 'gifts to humanity' are.
My girl is the most adorable and the way she gets so flustered kills me every time. Like, honey, we know. . . we know what you deal with,
And my boy, thinking the problem is his ugliness xD please save him. He even used one of the freak-ish things on his face. I can't.
They deserve each other, don't touch me. （/TДT)/