yaoi or yuri w catfishing? I’ve read a few with gaming AUs, some w dating apps, and i rlly love this trope
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Its so annoying when ppl comment on problematic manga/manhwa saying “this is so disgusting” “how can yall read this!1!1!1” “the author is so fucked up for writing this”. there are always so many warnings for rape/gore/abuse/etc from translators but slow ass people just continue to skip past them and then act like babies when they see something they don’t like. Not to mention they comment this on EVERY damn update like sybau if u hate it so much u would have dropped it. U secretly love it that’s why ur still reading don’t try and act morally superior to the rest of us Ho
There are still people to this day who comment “CP!!!!” “This is so fucked up!!” on Yarichin Bitch Club like holyyyyy fuck wahh wahh u damn baby learn to separate fiction from reality or read something else
For the most part, I agree. Deliberately going out of your way to read something like that only to comment negatively is a very odd choice.
But the way I look at it, it is only ever deserved if the work is clearly trying to sexualise the content or push it as something that is “okay.” That is wrong, and should probably be very clearly labeled as what it is, which is just “porn.”
But even on this site, most of the time, it’s part of a story and is treated as wrong in said story. I don’t think works like that should be erased, because the first step to approaching a problem is never to pretend it doesn’t exist.
If someone has a personal issue with the content, there is almost guaranteed to be a warning about it beforehand. Just because you decided to ignore it, doesn’t mean you should try and ruin a casual read from someone who is fine reading about these fictional scenarios and treating them as such.
if you're reading fucked up shit, learn to handle the negative comments too. idk why it pisses everybody off when u rightfully comment how disgusting something is. if i see cp on here, i'm gonna be weirded out, and i'm gonna comment too. it's my opinion. u cant expect everybody to bend their back cuz u don't like it when people comment badly on weird shit. you're the one who's a weirdo for thinking everybody's like u. i like pissing weirdos off. i like telling them that no, they're not normal for liking this so much. i mean, u could take ur own advice too. u can read what u want, and we can comment what we want. just scroll past it? its not that hard, definitely should be easier than reading all of that weird stuff.
Looks like someone can’t handle criticism
Well tbf everyone has their own boundaries, maybe to u its chill but to someone else its terrible. Hate-reading is kinda dumb but to each their own, people can comment what they want so long as its not attacking other ppl. And ngl some of these stories do deserve the criticism
It’s just weird that if you see CP (I don’t read CPs anyway so you won’t see me commenting on it), you’ll read it up to the last chapter and complain. The fact is that you stayed… and read the whole thing… that is weird. Also, another weird aspect is when the manhwa is not problematic at all like “remarried empress” but eng readers shame people who read the manhwa or novel just because it involves slavery.
You can comment your opinion all you want but dang, don’t shame people to the point of replying on their comments and insult them (ex. People who likes Jinx are also being insulted from time to time, it’s just that there’s a whole lot of hate comments on it that the comments I talk about are being burried).
most people dont read it up to the last chapter. I'll take shota onii as an example, people just drop in to shit on it and i dont see anything wrong. i mean, whoever is okay with reading shotacon should also be thick skinned enough to read the comments calling them out.
i haven't seen people explicity shame anyone who just reads both of the manhwas u mentioned. i read them too? (dropped jinx only cuz it was too boring). people only attack u when u explicitly state how much how u enjoy it, or that it's ur favourite thing in the whole wide world cuz... why are such problematic works ur fav? like, u couldn't find anything else to enjoy? these same people also defend the problematic themes (slavery, non con) and thats when people call them out. if you're minding ur own business, not commenting *weird* shit, then i assure u wont be getting attacked unless there's someone really REALLY unemployed out there.
ur whole comment is so slow people DO read up until the last chapter lmfaoooo with each new chapter that comes they r the first to comment before even the actual fans do. problematic themes have been in media for years, if u can’t handle it maybe u need to get off the internet gojo’s cock sleeve . ur point makes no sense
Looks like someone needs to stfu
solid point
also calling yaoi w FICTIONAL underage characters cp is extremely messed up and it undermines actual victims. this is exactly what i’m talking about. i myself used the word “cp” in quotation marks as a means to show what other ppl say before u try saying “well u referred it to that as well!!!”
Exactlyyyyy OMG people always do this with Jinx!!!! I hate it so much it gets so annoying
You goers are always getting mad about someone calling out problematic media as if it’s in a personal attack to you simply don’t read the comments. I don’t know wtf you expect. If you’re reading problematic media, you’re not going to get very nice comments. Also, that’s what the comment section is for to give your opinion and not everyone’s going to go to your rape porn that a lot of you consume.
Thats true
-or that it's ur favourite thing in the whole wide world cuz... why are such problematic works ur fav? like, u couldn't find anything else to enjoy?
Ummm maybe because people are allowed to like different types of media? It’s no different from people who love problematic and evil characters like Sukuna (Rapist and Killer) Geto (Terrorist/Fascist) Hisoka (Pedophile) …..
* going to goon
You’re allowed, but don’t act surprised when people criticize you for reading rape also all the characters you named most people hate and their fans are deeply hated.
problematic media has existed for DECADES, the only ppl who have a problem w it are Westerners. Japanese and Korean authors (you know the ones making 90 percent of the works on this website) constantly include problematic themes in their manga/manhwa. Up until the rise of purity culture in fandoms during this last decade, no one, and I mean no one had a problem with consuming problematic content. bc people could separate fiction from reality. also, if they hate it so much since it goes against their morals, then why do these people continue to read it and comment hate with every update? sounds like they secretly love it
i’ll agree w you on that last part especially i think constant romanticized rape/abuse/etc w no resolution or recognition of the characters bad doings can be bad. it just feels like trauma porn or borderline fetishistic fulfillment
Just because problematic media has existed for decades doesn't make it exempt from criticism. Longevity doesn't equal correctness. Yes, Japanese and Korean creators often include controversial themes but that doesn't mean we can't talk about their impact. Also, criticism isn’t always about purity culture. Thinking media that romanticizes, pedophilia and rape disgusting and weird to consume, isn’t purity culture I fear
"There are always so many warnings for rape/gore/abuse/etc from translators" Actually, not all of them give a warning for a manga or a webtoon comic. I was reading a BL webtoon comic on here, and it had rape and SA in it and there was no damn warning at all, so I had to drop it. Some translators give warnings and some do not
What people enjoy if it’s not harming anyone is not any of your business. “Why are such problematic works ur fav?” It’s none of your business? You’re literally part of the people who shames other readers for enjoying something you don’t enjoy. You’re problematic yourself so why do you think you’re in a position to picknit people about their tastes?
I wasn’t talking about you specifically about readers shaming other readers, but turns out you’re part of them. Let them enjoy what they want if it’s not harming anyone. You’re basically preventing authors and artists from getting the pay they deserve like us and support them to starve so you continue to read in illegal websites. You’re no better.
…. You’re one of the “unemployed”… just reminding you…
We have gojos cock sleeve user here supporting readers should attack other readers.
I actually like hate-reading dumb novels and stories because it's just fun! It's like reading a really stupid fanfiction but it's like an actual published book or comic. Like I've read coleen hoover books just to see where and how she fucked up in her writing and frankly, I just like making fun of these types of things. It's natural to point out criticism where you believe a story could have done better or been better. Also, there are some stories that I've read not to hate read but to actually read and then ended up hate-reading because the story was bad and I just couldn't put it down. It is a waste of time though. Don't recommend hate reading to anybody.
“Problematic” has become very subjective now. Remarried Empress is deemed as problematic, while pearl boy is a masterpiece. Who made me a princess is also deemed as problematic now. My goodness.
We must be in two different sides of the internet because pearl boy is very much hated and deemed as problematic most people think that author has a rape fetish. I don’t understand why you guys get so mad or upset when people come out problematic media as if it’s in a personal attack you. Like you guys say problematic media will always exist but so will the criticism that will come with it
many would say that pearl boy has controversial themes. The reason why remarried empress is deemed as "problematic" or the reason as to why there has been controversy surrounding it is because the author decided to make a freed slave the antagonist and completely vilified her character in a cartoonish way. It's as if enslaved peoples aren't already ALWAYS at the way bottom of the food chain. You could make the argument that doesn't matter because fiction doesn't have any effect on reality and that readers can usually differentiate. And to that, I would agree with you. However, readers are very much allowed to question as why the author chose to write a character the way they did as even the smallest character desgins give insight into how the author perceives things. People are still allowed to discuss controversy over questionable choices. I know you did not ask for this response and that you weren't questioning as to why these stories are problematic but (and i may be repeating myself) people are always allowed to analyze stories even if they're created for enjoyment.
yeah ts was a whole repeat-fest bruv. my mind is weird af
I’ve never read pearl boy so I don’t know much about it, but it’s very much loved on my side of the internet so I could say how much people loves and praise it without being biased ‘CAUSE I’VE NEVER READ IT.
Our problem is not the criticism, it’s the fact that you’re okay with people attacking and insulting people who consume the media of it. Like so what if I start reading pearl boy? Does that give you permission to insult me just because I read it????
I don’t where to start cause I only said the problematic is subjective and you’ve said things I’ve never mentioned. In subjective I mean some would consider pearl boy a masterpiece some would say it’s problematic. Some would say RE is a good story while others would say it’s problematic.
I don’t see what you’re trying to tell me through my comment.
You don’t have to send criticisms, you’re already punishing them by preventing them to get the paycheck from their efforts. You’re literally supporting them to starve so I don’t think you’re doing anything less.
If you are writing about someone getting brutally raped, fetishizing gay men and perpetuating harmful stereotypes of gay men being predatory I could not give a fuck if you don’t get paid or not.
Just a question, do you wish that all stories are softies and all these authors just die and punished for writing stories you don’t like? Also, I won’t listen to you ‘cause you’re obviously a girl while my male gay cousin loves Jinx (he even has a jacket of it). He even bought all chapters for that one Seunghyun manhwa. If the gay man I know don’t care, your voice is pointless isn’t it? It’s screaming “wanna be white horse hero” so yeah.
Problematic themes can be subjective, we all have different opinions and perspectives on things, i mean look at this damn thread. BUT ill be honest a large chunk of them are due to lack of awareness and education, both examples that were brought up quite literally have problematic/controversial themes but a lot of people dont see it that way because they dont know how to recognize when something is a problem. Thats why its so important to talk ab these things and point out when something is portrayed in a negative way, it spreads awareness and its important to not be ignorant to the things you're reading (cmon lets have some media literacy) Read whatever u want idgaf and i dont think they inherently make u a bad person, but obv u gotta be aware when something is bad and not to excuse said themes to justify liking them, u start normalizing it and then its a problem.
Im speaking in general btw, since this thread was ab ppl talking ab problematic themes
Are these authors fucking paying you to defend them the way your dick riding them is insane. So what if you’re gay best friend bought and loves jinx it doesn’t change the fact that it’s perpetuating harmful stereotypes of gay men and is completely romanticizing rape. Gay men are still very much capable of having a right fetish. I’m honestly done arguing with you fucking weirdos most people normally same people think it’s mad weird to read about someone getting brutally raped.
*rape
Dude if someone doesnt want to support a creator bc they feel uncomfortable (rightfully so) ab how they portray things, they have every right. U and ur cousins boundaries are not the same as other people, stop expecting people to accept things they dont like.
Not really, but I don’t really wish the worse for everyone y’know. I could hate and wish something bad for a FICTIONAL CHARACTER but not on a real human person ‘cause that’s what a normal person is supposed to do?? Unless, you’re not normal which is obvious at this point.
You’re just avoiding to answer the questions.
The context was to not attack other readers if they read something you don’t like. You support that?
The people here were talking about how u shouldnt be surprised when problematic media gets shit on by ppl who dont like it, but u started seeing it as a personal attack to you and your character. Youre pulling at hairs rn to try to get your point across and being an ass. Just read whatever u want, let ppl give their criticisms, they can and should be able to. Thats what the original comment was about and what kept being said
That was my point before you even joined in. At the end of the day, ya’ll just support shitting on readers that reads stories that you don’t like. You’re defending someone who’s wishing worst for authors so are you lost or what? You’re the one being stupid here. Your selective reading is making you a dumb wannabe asshole.
Only if you could your eyes for once, use what its purpose is for, you’ll see that I’m saying that PEOPLE SHOULD READ WHAT THEY WANT WITHOUT BEING SHITTED ON but you’re defending someone who’s actually wishing authors to not get paid for writing what they don’t like.
Real question, are you slightly illiterate…?
gang lowkey this is so embarrassing go take a bath or sum oml u can get off to whatever the fuck u want, nobody fucking cares bro. at the same time i can comment whatever i want to! yall say we wish the worst on the authors, yet one of the users here who i really really respect for always saying the right thing gets LITERAL DEATH THREATS and whatnot for just saying that it's weird to glorify rape. yall stinky as fuck man yall say it doesn't affect u irl and then go and gang up on a literal minor cuz they expressed their opinion. calling people illiterate bcs they wanna freely express their opinion on weird shit...? why does it affect u that much? if i read something problematic and i go into the comments and i see someone being against what was depicted, I'll agree with them. yet yall will be like. um actually! drawing naked kids/toddlers is totally okay! its fiction! now let me go and send u death threats and rape threats! loser ass
+ im too lazy to check but to the person who said i did A Really Big Sin by calling shotacon child porn... umm... u do know its literally classified as csam in a lot of places? biggest example being australia (stay away yall). also... everybody knows hentai is porn. if it's gay, we'll call it gay porn. if there's a little girl involved, people call it loli porn. child porn. anyway, its crazy how yall can defend authors sexualising children for depraved adults. its like theyre paying u for it lmao.
also, gang... u do know not everybody will always agree with u, right? I've seen people hate on the most well written, unproblematic comics and yet i just... go on with my day? how do u expect people to always be happy and supportive of whatever is being depicted. lowkey insane, u shouldn't care sm about what other people think
recs where the uke was a top exclusively until he met seme? smth like define the relationship, the pizza delivery man and the gold palace, the boundary of delusion, etc. it’s such a good tropeeeee
I think “Food Chain” fits this though warning that one of the love interests, the one that is first introduced, is kinda toxic (but the other interest that comes later is pretty green flag if I remember right)
:: My man is badass we ride w him ✎⋆.࿔*:･ (either were into girls / where tops / only this ml can top them)
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/2442942/
The only one I can think of right now is Passion
Flashlight
Do you still like me
Love gym
there used to be this person named “KyoZaNa” who would be the top commenter under EVERY manga, they would make summaries and plot explanations and shit. i visibly remember them always starting arguments with people and being a really big instigator LMFAO ☠ whoever they are i hope they’re doing well lol
Really? I only remember them as a really sweet person who made a lot of lists. Never had any bad interactions with them.
sounds like smth KyoZaNa would say... jkjk lol
LMAOOOO shhhhh don't blow my cover
manhwa similar to ‘plaything’ the grand dukes boytoy???? it’s genuinely my favorite BL manhwa and i’ve never found anything similar to it in the slightest. dynamics, art, NOTHING
i think it's about a girl who has a sleepover with a friend (not sure if it’s a guy or not). the friend sleeps on the floor, and while she’s lying there, she sees something under the bed. turns out the girl is evil and killed someone, hiding the body under the bed. i think she says something like 'don’t look under the bed.' does anyone know it plsssssss
looking for this yuri manga where the two girls were arguing over who should bottom and top i think they both wanted to bottom LMAO. it was a comedic scene but i can’t remember where it’s from. i’m pretty sure one girl had dark colored hair and the other girl was a blonde but i could be tweaking
I read this manga where a guy and a girl both had a crush on the same guy, so they became rivals and later friends. But then the plot twist is that they end up falling for each other and neither of them end up with the guy they both had a crush on. I think the guy they had a crush on was also into or with someone else, and didn’t have interest in either of them but i can’t remember.
Sounds similar to this manhwa I read a loooong time ago. Is it maybe This Summer?
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/that_summer_kim_hyun/
(Also, don’t worry. I swear I’m not stalking you. Just clicked on your profile after replying to your other comment and saw this question and thought maybe I could try helping again lol. ;v;)
I read this manga where a guy and a girl both had a crush on the same guy, so they became rivals and later friends. But then the plot twist is that they end up falling for each other and neither of them end up with the guy they both had a crush on. I think the guy they had a crush on was also into or with someone else, and didn’t have interest in either of them but i can’t remember.
it’s not but thank you for trying !!
Oh it's not this but it sound so similar to this one Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
i hate when i’m reading a yaoi smut scene w backshots and i get flashed w a view of the seme’s big voluptuous perky ass. Such an ick bro i don’t wanna see his cheeks