i’ve heard a bunch of shit thrown at him calling him a typical “i only have myself in this world mc” and him being “immature because he can’t accept the fact that bihwan’s in love with seoho and not him” but none of those could ever change my mind on him. what genuinely peaks my curiosity is how could they ever think that way about minchan as if they’re reading a completely different series, how could they ever interpret minchan’s action and character as that?
he’s one of the most considerate and patient main character i have known so far and despite the story still starting with limited chapters, the author has already shown how his past has affected him to be the person he is now. i don’t care if he is those typical main characters who has no luck on their side, he may be stereotypical but he’s still the most lovable to me. you moved mountains minchan! and i will hate anyone who goes into your way or hurt you
WHO SAID THAT ABOUT HIM??? bro has been helping people left n right since chapter ONE.
sadly there are a lot of people who dislikes minchan (￣ε(#￣)Σ his hate train peaked the same time as when people were complaining about how bihwan can’t accept the fact that minchan is his own people, and in order for bihwan stans to defend him, they threw hate on minchan instead which is such an interesting reaction from them??? what makes the situation more ridiculous is that no one is hating on bihwan, people were only pointing out his flaws and some people took that as a hate to their favorite character lol
Given what he’s had to deal wirh his whole life so far, it’s amazing to see he’d choose to be a good guy. If anything he has one the bst back stories for a villain arc but he’s not. That’s what makes he amazing to me tbh.
It's like people on here can't understand nuance. They could never make me hate you Minchan
his face pisses me off even when he’s not doing anything
he has the guts to act like he “cares” now? it deadass took him his child’s life time to do some action? he doesn’t even have to show some concern as a parent, showing concern as a fellow human being is enough.
what gets me more is that he thinks he can act as a parent for rishar, when his whole child is going through abuse. how can he feel bad for rishar because his parents died but not feel anything upon hearing that his OWN child is ill? there’s nothing wrong with taking rishar under his wing, but the fact that he can do that for other children but not to his own? he’s a fucking dead beat of a father.
and let us all be honest, he doesn’t care about etienne till now. he was just called out by rishar and was embarrassed so now he has to start acting like he does care.
Yeah he's ridiculous he wants richard to grow up well and do whta he wants but don't give a shit about his own kid? Come on not even a little. Feom whta i remember he didn't even see or talk to his kid maybe once otr twice. And then he question him that he might be on Empress side lile brooo you pushed him away
I liked the comment when I saw his face pisses me off, and then I pressed the plus sign and saw the long rant and I actually smiled
ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
i get why he’s feeling that way but i don’t get how is running away from your responsibilities solves anything. i guess the main couple’s pair is a match made in heaven because one is persistent while one is avoidant, i personally really liked the uke even though he might have come out as forceful in some scenes but for me carried this series and made it bearable to read…
i recently reread killing stalking and i knew wooyeon reminded me of someone and that’s sangwoo both are sociopaths (psychopath on sangwoo’s side) who just says anything, both are also pretentious but shows their true side to that one twink and i guess both are serial rapists? but wooyeon a tad bit better than sangwoo though i guess he’s not as bat shit crazy lol
Isn't Woo-yeon a psychopath? He doesn't feel remorse at all.
Sociopath know how to feel guilt but they pursue what gives tyem the biggest highs, regardless.
Do people re read killing stalking ????? I mean.........
He is on the edge of crossing that line if the manhwa took a different turn lol
He is also more fortunate than Sangwoo in case of wealth and career. He keep himself busy as an actor so he don't go batshit crazy
LMFAOOOOOOO
I thought Wooyeon was a sociopath but your right he leans more to the psychopathic traits
surprisingly a lot of people do..? though this is my first time rereading it cause a friend told me to give it a shot once again cause the first time i read it was when i was 13, i regret rereading it tbh i wish i didn’t listen to my friend
actually now that you’ve brought it up i actually think wooyeon is indeed a psychopath too! sociopaths tend to be more acting on impulse while wooyeon does show some sociopathic traits he does lean more on being a psycho, like you said he does not feel remorse and can blend in with people easily which are psychopathic traits (when you remember that he’s a completely different person on the inside those are not normal traits is what i mean). but i saw some spoilers where someone said that wooyeon “realized” that he’s actually in love inseob that’s i called him a sociopath since they are way more capable of actually feeling some romance in life compared to psychos but since it’s wooyeon, we’re still not really sure if it’s really love so he could be either ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Yes. I mean it's a good psychological horror and also it would be good to reread it if you want to further analyze sangwoo's character and other details that can't immediately notice in the first read.
My husband is a sociopath, so I kind of "get" the difference. He's diagnosed with ASPD
In the novel version, Woo-yeon feels differently towards Inseop, so unlike with how he doesn't he doesn't feel anything towards the other individuals around him. He doesn't fully understand it, but then maybe it's love because it's so different. Non-verbatim but that's the gist. And that's the closest we'll ever get in terms of love confession from Woo-yeon. If you have time, you can also check out The Beast Must Die, anothe BL master piece where the ML is a high functioning psychopath.
From my research, psychopaths don't feel normal emotions like compassion, pity, or love. At least not how we normal peeps feel and process them. But that doesn't mean they don't want to be loved or thay they don't bond. They just really have an unusual/peculiar way of showing it.
Yup. When he does something to Inseop, he doesn't stop to consider how his actions will impact Inseop, especially during the early chaps. He orders him around either to make him quit or to observe his reactions and figure things out. He doesn't feel glee or anything, just goimg through the motions of it.
I'm more unterested in your experience with your husband, can you tell me more ?
also I advice you to watch " flower of evil " if youre into kdramas, I'll make sure to read the beast must die
OMG 13 ?!!!!! I was 19 and it traumatized me, whenever there is talk about it i'm like idk what they are talking about, I JUST PRETEND I NEVER READ IT BC I BELIEVE IN FAKE IT TILL U MAKE IT
13?! Damn, you are brave. I was 19 when i first reading that and painter of the night. The first ever 18+ pieces that i read. I was not brave enough to read anything 18+ rated when i was below 17 lol i even just start watching film when the characters on screen are kissing when i turned 17 lol I'm a coward really
I'm just done reading the beast must die, its a very good one, a masterpiece as u said. can u recommend me more of that genre ?
Nothing as in depth as The Beast Must Die, sorry. I've been looking, as well but no luck. Author is also retiring from her writing career.
yes i've read i'll be there for you before and i read the notices, such a waste of potential but i really hope they are healthy now at least :(
it’s been years and i’m still not sick of this series and i don’t think i will ever be it’s so damn good like everything about the story and how it’s written is a chef’s kiss.
i really love how the story progressed but one thing that really got me is that the author made such a lovable second lead without him getting in the way of the main couple’s relationship. despite uno being fit and having a good chemistry with sihyeon, it was never an obstacle but instead it became a stepping stone and helped sihyeon and hajun’s relationship progress more for the better!
anyways can everyone collectively agree that uno is such a lovable character? his codename is not candy but all he did throughout the whole series is serve himself as an eye candy for us i read the comment where they suggested that uno COULD bottom and i can see the vision, i want his ass plowed but regardless if he bottoms or not i just want his side story already, not rushing the author just feeling some drought after rereading
if you’re here to complain about wanting dohyeok then go read my dohyeok y’all sound so stupid for complaining about the “main couple” like what do you think THE MAIN COUPLE means? of course they’ll be more exposed to the spotlight LMFAOAOOAOAOAO if author doesn’t want that period blooded hair rapist in story then they have the rights to not put him, just because you complained doesn’t mean anything will happen anyways, you’re reading illegally as if that’s not embarrassing enough and here u r complaining
SO MUCH THIS. The rape obsessed people who love the toxic second couple are fucking embarrassing. Reading that many MC chapters fine, but throw in a rape couple and the sewer rape lovers will drool all over it and hate the main couple, tf
it’s so weird
the amount of dislikes without any replies from them rapist fangirls are so damn funny cause you just know that i touched a nerve y’all SHOULD be embarrassed for the things you like. you should be ashamed for asking more for a SERIAL RAPIST and an ABUSER, ntm a drug user too
ik y’all are only like this in this site because you know to yourselves that you’re too embarrassed too admit to liking a rapist anywhere else, GET REAL LMFAO i just know that y’all stank behind the screen
Like even though I believe you can like almost anything fictionally, for me the most embarrassing part for them is that they can't just shut the fuck up about their rape couple and have to actively shit on the main couple every. Chapter. It's literally called My Suha and they're gagging for the rape couple.
true! and not to mention, there are several series where cnc (consensual non consensual) is done right but they chose to like dohyeok for some reason.
even the author themself said in one interview that they never intended people to sympathize with dohyeok but instead it serves as his “punishment” because they obviously wrote dohyeok like that intentionally hence to why he is a villain.
yet despite all that, there’s still some fucked up people out there trying to fish sympathy for that villain. what’s worse is that they’re mad when their favorite character whose written to be hated is being hated
ik that everyone collectively agrees that kyle is most definitely the better brother. our songbird deserves better, he deserves his own better version of hackman too!
anyways i know we hate gwonryeom but can we talk about his characters design… i genuinely fucking love this author and i’ve decided that since the day i read the chapter where bihwan “couldn’t see” yellow dude’s face because he said something along the lines of “only the ones who are permitted can see my face” meaning that he has possibly been lurking since like the joseon era and has gotten away with it because of his power. it’s so simple yet such a unique concept that you wouldn’t expect to see in a bl series; something you’d usually in shounen mangas.
anyways i fucking love minchan’s grandma and i think this chapter just explained how minchan turned the way he is right now! patient and has a strong sense of rationality.
idk just them being married without any romantic connections is really doing it for me. marriage of convenience has always been an awkward or depressing trope (most of the time) but the term “marriage of convenience” being used like this is funny enough, used well for me and the smut is drawn so well too; the mind break, cuckolding, overstimulation, most of these are harmful plays that are done or executed very badly in the porn industry but this manga was able to make it enjoyable and somewhat written well (it’s not really consensual non consensual) but the aftercare between their plays is comforting and was shown realistically how bed plays *play* out!!
this may be one of the classics but that doesn’t change the fact that this is a problematic manhwa the over feminization of the male characters who are “bottoms” are so… look at me in the eyes and tell me this shit isn’t weird… if you say so otherwise then that just tells me that you are a fetishizer who hasn’t seen a real gay men.
the main couple is unbearable as fuck. no hyesung is not a badass. he is a rape victim that is one thing for sure but y’all need to remember that he’s young when he got byul, of course he’s bound to act immature and that doesn’t make him cute at all. he IS annoying.
and not to mention, dojin who is a rapist who wants to take responsibility as if in the first place that is not what he intended to do at all. he is not supposed to be complimented for taking responsibility when in the first place he is the cause of the problem.
and don’t even get me started on that bitch chowon his face pisses me off, he’s not “beautiful” he is a heavily fetishized male character. what is the point of writing a “boy’s love” story when they look anything but a boy?
i need to remind y’all that men aren’t replacement for women to prey onto. now before you tell me that feminine men exists in the real world, they do, but love is an illusion’s representation of them is just blatant fetish content.
the only good thing that has come out of this manhwa is dojun and heesoo. they should’ve gotten their own series instead of the forced main couple and a criminal being paired with a normal civilian side couple.
we don’t care if this is a classic, this kind of representation is harmful not only to the lgbtqia community but to women as well. if you’re going to writing a BL, then stick to it being exclusive about BOYS ONLY. WRITE A BOY’S LOVE AND DON’T USE WOMEN AND HETERONORMATIVE ACTIVITIES ON IT!
Facts, Fargo has good art and can create characters that are endearing with their flaws. But then out of nowhere they throw in these assaults and fetishes. Same w If You Hate Me That Much, 2 out of the 3 ukes look sooo young in some frames but theyre supposed to be in their late 20s. I don't know how these authors just keep writing cutesy couple things after starting their stories w SA and having lack luster "resolution"
100% facts bruh I cant w this manuwa