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Yeah same for me. I'm just guessing mostly ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Lol i thought im the only one

seriously!! everyone seems to be talking about how there is hate for hye sung but like. even if he is “annoying” he’s 100% justified! he’s like 20 years old! and suddenly he’s being attacked left and right after finding out his big complex about being an alpha was been a sham, he’s being coerced into living with an alpha who triggered his omega reveal, and again, attacked him, etc etc etc. if anyone should be hated it’s dojin, but i guess everyone forgets about the literal rape because he’s so kind and caring and selfless after hye sung gets pregnant? SIGH!!!!!

omg thank you for this reply, very well said! i guess i’m just shocked because i really try hard to steer clear of dubious consent and rape in bl/yaoi (which is really hard bc of how prevalent it is) but i decided to give this one a try bc the high rating and i keep seeing it but Wow. i’m really disappointed

and please don't tell me I'm the only one that feels bad for hyesung?? like I've seen so many people hate on him cause he didn't want the baby and ran away EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ALL FORCED ON HIM and not to mention he's ONLY 21 LIKE??

Spitting facts but one of the reasons why this manhwa is so overrated coz of its good and pleasing graphics/art also this was made for like a few years ago which manhwas only started and take over yaoi thus the cliche parts arent that cliche after all

They hating on hyesung for not liking dojin when in fact he has all the rights to act that way. Typical yaoi justifying rapists

Thanks for justifying me in those parts, but it's just weird on how they hating hyesung for acting that way also dojin having a free pass from what he's done

Um, I haven't read the whole thing yet, but the way I see it, the uke attitude is absolutely nasty. Like no one 'coerced' him into living with seme. He is just too dumb and weak to take care of himself. Btw, 'attacked him'?!? Getouttahere! The way I see it, the guy literally jumped seme at his own will TWO times prior. Is it fine if uke does it? Even before that guy gets knocked out, seme saves him from a total scam, pays the damages, offers him place to live, food, gives him money for cleaning and finds this weakling a job. Yeah, right, total douchebag.

i’m pretty sure the “jumping” was due to intense pheromones, so hye sung wasn’t even in control of himself, which dojin acknowledges. he regrets it every time because he was overcome by pheromones; how is that consensual if he wasn’t in his right mind, and dojin knew that? if you keep reading you’ll learn why hye sung is so “dumb and weak.” just because dojin provided him with those things doesn’t mean hye sung owes him literally anything, especially not having more barely consensual sex and giving birth to a child that he doesn’t want. i don’t really care that hye sung has a “nasty attitude” or if he seems ungrateful or annoying. he still doesn’t owe dojin anything and that doesn’t change the fact that he wasn’t in a state to consent to sex. the whole point is that he was overcome by his heat/omega instinct and thus regrets it later.

Having no recollection justifies his actions? Ok, cool. So if seme would be influenced by strong omega pheromones and have no recollection of his actions, it would fine too?! To make it more true to the story, he would need to run away and be pissed at uke for realising his pheromones. I really think, it should work both ways. Btw, uke is not just seems ungrateful, he literally yelled at the guy for offering a place to live. I wonder if he ever thanked anyone. Probably, his major sense of entitlement is in the way to actually behave like decent human. As for the baby, you reap what you sow. No one forcing him to have a baby. In the end, it is his decision to keep it, influenced by greed and ripping seme off , but still decision is his and his only.

i wholly disagree. there is obviously a power dynamic there that you’re overlooking. if dojin had been overwhelmed with the pheromones and forced himself on hye sung then, i would not think that was okay. dojin was fully in his right mind to not accept hye sung’s advances, he even had physical strength over him. they are not equally comparable situations. hye sung had never dealt with a heat before and didn’t even know he was an omega, and had no way to control himself. hye sung did not overpower dojin in any way, dojin chose to have sex with him in that vulnerable state. if you don’t want spoilers then don’t keep reading; hye sung was abused his entire life. i think the author suggests sexual abuse from his father. so i think he’s plenty justified in not wanting to trust this random alpha who took advantage of his vulnerability. dojin basically is forcing him to have the baby; he’s holding his home and money over his head. and don’t forget his “debt.”

once again, i understand that hye sung seems like a complete brat, ungrateful, rude, etc. but i don’t think this means he deserves what is happening to him or justifies dojin’s actions.

It's fine, I don't mind spoilers. You are right, I am overlooking power dynamics cuz the way I see it, everything that is happening to uke is a direct result of his own actions. No one forced him to take up that living offer. Could have declined if he was so afraid to stay with seme. Could have left the first time after sex happened, you know when no one is around. It is not like seme keeps him under lock, could have chosen to get rid of the baby all by himself (does he like need consent of the baby's father at the clinic or what?!). Instead, uke chooses to accept, he chooses to stay, he chooses to have the money for the baby. All of this whole playing the victim of 'how evil' world. Ugh, that triggers me. Sorry for the rant LMAO

In my case I loved to hate them, both characters were already assholes in "If you hate me so", but it was so odd to read a romance about such a "bad" couple I got hoocked

Thats why i dont hate hyesung..others saying that his lucky that dojin is very husband material and spoil him so much..well he should be for the rest of his life..he rape him and worst getting pregnant at such a young age..His lucky hyesung stayed with him,married him and trying to be matured for the family.

Sorry for ny bad english

I won't consider it rape tho cause Dojin didn't want that to happen it was just like a natural reaction of pheromones.I don't think Dojin is at fault no one is, I don't think Dojin needed the hate. But yes I Stan hyesung!

Yes. Thats why i cant hate hyesung. People forgot that hyesung wanted to leave dojins place ..see chapter 19?so dojin is not saint/innocent..at least his devoted to husband and father but rape is not ok.!!

same here! i feel REALLY bad bc i wasgenuinely optimistic about this BL, but dojin switching gears and hyesung having an abrasive personality was not a good mix for me
╥﹏╥ at least one of them should be likeable

I don't remember that maybe it's just my bad memory but I still don't think it's Dojin's fault I mean Hyesung was attracted to his pheromones, When he got actually pregnant Hyesung barged into dojin's room entranced by his pheromones, begging to have something in him (////). Okay, from what I remember (I can't be exact okay I really have bad memory ) Dojin I guess tried to relieve hyesung's heat since it was the easiest to calm him down but the unconscious Hyesung inserted Dojin's stick in his ass without the condom. And them boom byul happened. And probably Dojin had his morals I mean he's a Dom alpha with a big family, Byul's life was important to him, knowing he's been living in a loving home. And Dojin took responsibility for the baby, Tbh I have no comment about the contract since I porgot

I have many things to say but I gave up cuz of the complication, I guess It can never be resolved.at this point I don't care, It's their story, In reality not everything can be resolved, Love is complicated and weird. But still I don't want to hate Dojin he's just a character, And it's their story, and I don't have the privilege to complain about it I don't want to waste the author's efforts into making this character. I forgot about all that tho and I did let it slide I guess whatever is happening right now is making up with the story, besides it was the past, You don't need to resolve anything to have a good outcome, Whatever happened in the past that's that I guess, It is what it is, I don't care about the past anymore at this point, but if can't take it that's okay not my prob I don't want to be stressed about any character lololol He's just a character anyway. Now is now , past is past lololol.