This is a sincere question, not meant to judge or offend anyone but I really need to understand this about the most or average Yaoi readers:
-- I know that we are mostly women and also mostly very young (in average) so I'm guessing this is the defining factor but I want to be sure by reading sincere and unguarded answers to this question:
Why there MUST be an uke and a seme? Why every gay pairing gets assigned to be a bottom or a top in such a rigid way? Is this a way to fantasize a make the gay pair heteronormative and have a girl/woman back in the universe? Or is a way to create a fantasy of a alpha male that will come and take us ( and the uke replaces our fantasy ) and since it would be a bit embarrassing to root for such a stereotypical plot in hetero stories, we use the yaoi ones under the disguise of 'rooting' for gay love ( while in fact in need to make one of them an eunuch or girl that will behave as a girl being fucked).
Anyway, I am curious because I see most readers really take the 'uke' and 'seme' roles seriously to the point of fighting or saying like a pair or character would be ruined if they were one or another. I'm just trying to understand why this castration of one of the male character is so essential to yaoi readers ( or they won't be able to enjoy the story).
Do you feel like that at some level this means that you can't really accept a relationship between two men unless they perform a heternormative form? ( meaning one man MUST be a woman). I keep thinking about the subtle homophobia that this idea implies... and it could be that deep down, being incapable of enjoying or accepting a BL story without one of the guys being exclusively assigned to a man-women dynamic is a hidden homophobia. But on the other side this could be just a matter of women creating fantasies of submission and love stories where they place themselves as the uke and that's why it's impossible for them to let go of the idea.
So, if you are to give a very candid and unguarded answer to this, imagine some of the stories that have a pair where the author didn't create an overly girly 'uke' ( because sometimes they do and it's impossible not to automatically assume this position) but you still, consciously need to know or see the pair as uke/bottom. Would you enjoy or believe the story if the roles were reversed or if they were a versatile couple? Why not?
-- I know that we are mostly women and also mostly very young (in average) so I'm guessing this is the defining factor but I want to be sure by reading sincere and unguarded answers to this question:
Why there MUST be an uke and a seme? Why every gay pairing gets assigned to be a bottom or a top in such a rigid way? Is this a way to fantasize a make the gay pair heteronormative and have a girl/woman back in the universe? Or is a way to create a fantasy of a alpha male that will come and take us ( and the uke replaces our fantasy ) and since it would be a bit embarrassing to root for such a stereotypical plot in hetero stories, we use the yaoi ones under the disguise of 'rooting' for gay love ( while in fact in need to make one of them an eunuch or girl that will behave as a girl being fucked).
Anyway, I am curious because I see most readers really take the 'uke' and 'seme' roles seriously to the point of fighting or saying like a pair or character would be ruined if they were one or another. I'm just trying to understand why this castration of one of the male character is so essential to yaoi readers ( or they won't be able to enjoy the story).
Do you feel like that at some level this means that you can't really accept a relationship between two men unless they perform a heternormative form? ( meaning one man MUST be a woman). I keep thinking about the subtle homophobia that this idea implies... and it could be that deep down, being incapable of enjoying or accepting a BL story without one of the guys being exclusively assigned to a man-women dynamic is a hidden homophobia. But on the other side this could be just a matter of women creating fantasies of submission and love stories where they place themselves as the uke and that's why it's impossible for them to let go of the idea.
So, if you are to give a very candid and unguarded answer to this, imagine some of the stories that have a pair where the author didn't create an overly girly 'uke' ( because sometimes they do and it's impossible not to automatically assume this position) but you still, consciously need to know or see the pair as uke/bottom. Would you enjoy or believe the story if the roles were reversed or if they were a versatile couple? Why not?
2018-11-18 23:04 marked
This is a sincere question, not meant to judge or offend anyone but I reall...