
I like BL, but there’s a limit to it. The genre itself isn’t the problem, but the way people romanticize toxic relationships, abuse, and even Stockholm syndrome is seriously messed up. And let’s be honest, calling it a “coping mechanism” is just lying to yourself. If you’re enjoying stories that glorify rape and manipulation, you’re not coping — you’re just horny. And if you really think consuming that kind of content is helping you, maybe it’s time to see a therapist instead of hiding behind this excuse. At the end of the day, normalizing this stuff only makes the BL community look worse. You can enjoy BL without supporting the toxic side of it.(anyways writing MORE cus why not)

hey. you're right about everything u said except. people do cope with their trauma this way. i'm a survivor of csa and rape, and i'm into some pretty, pretty messed up shit. i agree with everyone who says im not right in the head. i've been through therapy too. but the thing is, i'm not enforcing my pov on anyone. this is something i indulge in by myself. i know its sick, but it IS how i cope. i wish i wasnt this way either. however, for u to dismiss all trauma survivors by saying its not a correct way to cope with things is wrong. and very very insensitive. as long as it is not further deteriorating things for u, its a perfectly fine way to cope. it allows me to channel my feelings through fiction, so that i can act more normal irl. hope this helps.

yeah. honestly idrc i've heard enough shit in my life. but there are a lot of people who have been, at one point, gone through some sort of sexual assault and do end up developing these "kinks", and they do care about what people think. most of them deal with a lot of shame and disgust, and these feelings never really go away. u end up blaming yourself. u end up harming yourself. i've been through that myself. seeing comments like these never helps.

Some people who’ve been through dark shit, like CSA and rape, cope in ways others don’t understand — like dark fiction or BL content. It’s not about enforcing that mindset on others, it’s about finding a way to deal with the pain and act normal in real life. But let’s be real, some people use “coping” as an excuse to avoid facing their own issues and just feel better about themselves. There’s a fine line between healing and hiding, and not everyone gets that.

First of all, who would actually say that to an SA survivor… like, be for real. Coping through dark fiction or BL can be a way to process trauma without hurting yourself or others, and honestly, that’s no one’s business. But at the same time, you have to ask yourself — is this actually helping me heal, or am I just avoiding my pain? Coping is valid, but some people hide behind it to avoid accountability or stay stuck in the same cycle. And truthfully, I don’t think you know much about SA victims, and neither do I, so really… you can’t say shit, can you?

it is coping actually! u think that's weird huh? did u know that there are SA survivors who are into cnc? would u say they're fetishizing rape by reenacting the scenarios? do u know there are SA survivors who actually go out and rape bait? as in look for people to rape them again? what would u call them, i wonder? i made an album and you're freaking out. this is an album FOR ME. FOR ME, who has been through it.

Love liers anyways keep reading your wack ass smut that’ll help you cope or whatever stop got some problem and I looked at ur profile you got a lot to say just say you like rape? like your albums say a lot about you like gangrape and rape but make it hot let’s not forget drunk/druggedbittches something is clearly wrong with it ho

i wasn't here to justify myself. ik im messed up. but bitch dont u ever dare tell another SA survivor they're not valid. they're valid for whatever feelings they have. they're valid for whatever actions they take without harming others. I've seen too many people go because people like u dont understand that healing is not a linear journey. we do messed up shit because it was done to us. u dont get to have a say in it.

It is a polarized topic for sure lol. But I agree with you.
If you want to deal with dark and psychological themes such as r@pe, SA, or even Stockholm syndrome in BL that's fine. But show it as it is without romanticizing it, you know.
I totally loathed falling in love with your r@pist tropes. And unfortunately, they are the most famous BLs that you see in the featured manga. Plus it has a large fandom too.

yknow. yall weird as fuck man. yall just want perfect SA victims. yall dont get that when one half of rape victims are repulsed by anything sexual, the other half becomes hypersexual. this leads to kinks, fetishes and behaviors u never thought could come from u. u seek closure in the very places that hurt u. why do u think people go back to their abusers? yall will kill anyone who doesn't fit ur mold of the perfect victim. you're the same people who will read thousands of chapters of men fucking each other, but will call rape survivors rape fetishizers. please never speak again.

why would i make them private? i WAS raped. i WAS sexually assaulted as a kid. i DO still have rape fantasies. i DO read rape in fiction, because that's MY way of dissociating. its my way of thinking, oh so it wasnt really that bad. i never forced it down anyones throat? i never told other people to cope the same way? why r u so pressed on how i cope with my own trauma?

no ur take is just garbage and has been said by so many ppl that its getting annoying now. js cus ppl read rape in fiction, doesn't mean they actually agree with the action itself.
also the thing u said abt how its not a valid coping mechanism is weird... it literally is. stop being an asshole. if u don't like rape in stories then just ignore it, nobody wants to hear ur dumbass opinion.

i just wanna say one last thing. i know I'm not a good person. i know I'm messed up in the head, mentally ill, i wanna kill myself too. i try to change but this is who i am. this is an anonymous website, its the only place where i can somewhat express my thoughts and desires. i can never do that irl. i will never do that irl. i just wanna say, please dont judge all SA survivors based on me. im probably the worst of the bunch. i deal with my trauma in ways that maybe normal people dont. but there are others like me too. i have met them, i have talked to them. just please, they're not all like me though. they're nice people, just stuck with these disgusting thoughts. please dont make them feel worse than they already do. i dont care about myself, but i do care a lot about others who are in the same boat as me. please have more empathy for them. they're not hurting anyone. I'm sorry if i hurt u though.

All I have to say is, I agree with you and everyone on here is a block list. The only thing I’m gonna say is it is not a healthy coping mechanism and not normal to enjoy reading about someone getting brutally raped or pedophilia even if it’s fiction. If you read rape or shota I need you 100 meters away from me. Let’s not try to normalize rape kinks because it’s not a normal thing. I’m gonna want you guys to shout in public or in school that you like reading gay men getting raped or sexual depiction of children and see how that goes highly doubt people are gonna think it’s normal and say oh it’s just fiction. They’re gonna think you’re weird and something‘s wrong with you because you wanna know why it’s not normal or okay and shouldn’t be normalized :)

nobody is “killing” yall omg they were just making a point about how the amount of specifically BL stories containing rape and SA is concerning, and that just because a behavior spawns from a traumatic event does not mean it is helpful or healing. consistently and sometimes obsessively reading stories centered around rape and SA that are portrayed in a glorified manner is likely not a positive long term coping mechanism. and i promise you the people writing these are not all victims themselves either, most of them just genuinely find it hot to see men raping each other with zero nuance for the situation they’re depicting. i mean, how do you think gay communities in japan and korea feel seeing the majority of the depictions of their relationships in media through sexual violence? that definitely is not benefitting the sexual predator stereotype for gay men, and it’s being perpetuated by straight women.
i empathize with you and other people in similar circumstances, but it’s also important for you to think about the bigger picture, and who this hurts on a larger scale.

peyton, you have three galleries on your profile that are (almost) entirely images of rape, some are accompanied by notes about how much you enjoy the pictures and want to be in those situations. that is NOT normal, and the fact that you continue to do it and defend it tells me that this “coping mechanism” is not actually helping you, it is keeping you stuck in a moment that hurt you deeply. trauma is not something you “get over”, but you can absolutely grow from it. this behavior is stunting that growth.

are u a therapist? because my own therapist told me that this IS one of the ways people cope, and u should never ever feel ashamed about it. i am part of a lot of communities involving survivors of rape, and this is a very common discussion on there. however, i agree its not a good idea to obsess over it. still, this is a perfectly NORMAL way to cope. just because its not YOUR normal doesn't mean its not normal for us. it is a NORMAL human response. why do u think CNC exists? is that wrong too?

right….. but im not receiving sexual gratification from depictions of sexual violence…. i do not find it hot or romantic…. and i am not going to sit here and defend it as something healthy or beneficial for me. the problem is y’all are feeding into this delusion that these are good for you in some strange way. every manhwa and manga with even a hint of rape or SA could disappear tomorrow and i would be unmoved. yall would seek it out like junkies on crack.

again, i said please don't take me as an example. i agree im not mentally okay, but that doesn't mean all the other people coping this way are in the wrong too. i know I'm a fucking weirdo, but there are also normal people who indulge in this kink, lets not shame them and pretend we know what's better for them. that's all im saying. i never tried to justify MYSELF, thats what OP tried to make it seem like i was doing

do you also tell your therapist you get in heated arguments online defending it and get pretty obviously upset about people insulting it? because i dont think your therapist would call that healthy. and if they did, i would recommend finding a new one, specifically one who doesn’t feed into your trauma. theres also a big difference between the choices you make in your bedroom and the industry you support to create more and more rape-slop to please you.

this is my first time getting into an argument. i shouldn't have done that i agree, should've minded my own business. Idk how u think I'm supporting the industry though? all i did was create albums for myself, never promoted the albums everywhere. never paid a penny to any of the creators. did everything on an illegal website. idk how im promoting it. please tell me if im wrong and ill stop doing that

i brought up others because i want u to know that there are people who indulge in this kink in a healthy way. there's cnc, a lot of them write rape fantasies. which i know sounds very weird. i know u guys think what im doing is very unhealthy, but from the beginning of this convo i never talked about myself. i just wanted to make a point about other more normal survivors

peyton, the simple fact you are such an avid fan of these stories and would probably jump at the opportunity to read anything new with a similar plot supports these industries by encouraging acceptance and the normalization of rape and sexual violence in these stories. if people did not read it, there wouldnt be so much of it. its the same thing with genres like “lolicon” or illustrated CSEM. think about how unbelievably common and practically mainstream that stuff is. would it be like that if it had a much smaller amount of readers? probably not. authors meet the demand of their consumers, paid or not. people like you want rape in your stories, and you get it. honestly, i do not hold judgement for you because i think you are misguided in many ways. i can also assume you are probably pretty young and impressionable. i encourage you to seek out productive manners of coping. you deserve better than this and continuing to read this stuff will keep you going in circles.

hey, thanku for everyth u said, i really do appreciate it. thanku for advicing me. however, the thing is, i never started this argument for myself. i know im fucked up. i never tried to justify myself. if u read all my replies, you'll know that. all i wanted to make known was that its wrong to say that indulging in this fetish or kink or whatever is ALWAYS unhealthy. there are survivors who are very into cnc, and they lead very happy lives! a lot of them face judgement, and thats mainly why i wanted to tell op that no, u can be wrong. i personally know im beyond redeem, however not all of them are like me. for some reason, everyone is bashing me, when i never even tried to say im doing smth good. i know im not a good person. idk whay yall are getting from reminding me of it again. and again and again. or telling me things about myself when i never asked for them.

The BL community has a lot of variety, but honestly, some parts are super toxic. A lot of the stories normalize non-consensual stuff and abusive dynamics, and it’s wild when people act like it’s no big deal. They’ll defend it by saying, “It’s just fiction” or “It’s my coping mechanism,” but like, nah it’s not coping, you’re just horny. Ignoring how harmful it can be is not it. There are definitely great BL stories with healthy, consensual relationships, but we need to stop romanticizing abuse and recognize when certain tropes go way too far. I’m just saying this cus I think a lot of people should definitely think about this….

I agree with you I never understood people who say it’s a coping mechanism like how is reading about someone getting brutally raped and tortured therapeutic in anyway? Apart from that, that is not a healthy coping mechanism you need to go to therapy and get actual help then to be romanticizing rape.

Give me your worst/horrible Bl you’ve read and I’ll read it cus im bored.. also anyone got a bls rec that have good artstyle and good plot?

Bad Bls that I actually HATED
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/obey_me/ (FUCKING GROSSSS)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/flower_of_the_sun/ (the plot makes you think its going somewhere but....it's shit)
my fav bl
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/rainbow_city/ (SA in chap 3, best to skip)

its the same thing as flower of the sun, where it makes u think that its gonna have a good plot and respect the characters and then it just doesnt... it felt like the author fornite danced over the grave of what this story could've been. https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_history_caused_by_willful_negligence/
insane asf plot, gorgeous artstyle, my fav manhwa not just bl manhwa
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/sangyang_the_wanderer/

Worst bl : No Reason. If you can handle toxic plot and characters -so toxic,then read this.
Good bl : Rainbow City - good plot, gorgeous art, likeable characters. You will never get bored while reading this manhwa.
Idk,if Sangyang can be considered bl but it's a good to read. If you want to play detective and solve mystery then go for it.

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/placebo_yaoi/ theres been worse but i deleted it from my memory

Personally not the worst for me but its got a crazy low rating:
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_alpha_s_circumstances_novel/

Sick of these gay Stockholm Syndrome ass manhwas like can someone give me a cute fluffy one?

Its too normalized these days lol but i enjoyed https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/d_aze/ quite alot!!

I didnt realize how little pure fluff I have saved but:
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/habibi_s_rabbits/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/gentle_forest/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/eat_me_up_my_husband/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/cold_blooded_beast/ (some angst)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_path_where_the_forsythia_fell/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/don_t_mess_with_the_puppy/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/haga_kun_wa_kamaretai/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/for_your_love/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/ookami_kun_wa_kowakunai/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/cherry_blossoms_after_winter/

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_fairy_bath_thief/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/tu_quoque/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/peach_and_her_papas/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/moonlight_howling/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/biting_the_tiger/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/boys_love_jagal/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hyung_you_re_my_idol/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/dream_away/
Have you read any of these?
Should I read painter of the night… i want to… is it really worth it?!!?
no
give me a good reason why.
If you dislike rape and obsessive/toxic ML’s I would advise against it. But the ML does get redemption towards the end and becomes better.
mhmmm okaur
the male lead is a rapist. also he's ugly as fuck
No but Sangyang:The Wanderer is definitely worth it pookie (≧∀≦)
PHHH OKAUUUTT