Jojo

I forgot to mention Manhwas nowadays are literally just p0*rn. Like please no one is tryna see this sh*t

I couldn't agree moreee.

See? People agree with you, but if I said that recent yaoi are repetitive r*pe plots, it's no longer true because I'm a homophobe. Why is that?

100% AGREEE i'm so sick of it broo when a bl manhwa has no sex in the first chapter it's like a diamond because it's so rare T^T plot >>>>> smut

Usually homophones and websites with a lot of gay stuff don’t mix together.

Yes, I am a homophobe, but it does not exclude me from criticizing the amount of r*pe in recent yaois, how is this related to my hatred for gay people?

Because usually people who are hated by you and you wish to die and burn aren’t gonna care for your opinion.

I don’t see anything wrong with you criticizing rape in recent yaoi.

It doesn’t make it untrue, it just discredits your opinion because of your irrefutable bias against the political implications of the genre you’re criticizing. Or that would be the case if you weren’t an undercover non-gay hating gay burning patron

I knew that, but I wish these people could separate my homophobic side from my hatred to SA side. We homophobes are also humans, and we have standards for great plots, as if I can't hate on r*pe just because I'm a homophobe, which isn't true.

Mrm is heavily manga focused, so if you want to avoid seeing lots of manhwa that might be your best bet

If you're a homophobe why do you know so much about what happens in yaoi? Most homophobes don't read any yaoi to have an opinion other than "I hate gays"

Yes, this is the word. They "discredit" my opinion about r*pe in yaoi because I'm a homophobe, which sucks.

It does discredit ur opinion because as a homophobe why are you reading yaoi mangas??? This is not targeted to you so please take ur bs somewhere else

I find most Japanese mangas there but Mrm is technically a hentai page

I wish I could like this comment a billion times!!!!! Tbf I had no problem with smut till every manhwa just started bombarding us with it every page. Now I cherish mangas without them lool

I hate r*pe and I hate gays

I'm a homophobe not a r*pe apologist

(My entire essay regarding why I believe we’re only getting these unoriginal, problematic, smut-focused BLs just got deleted so I’m just gonna type a short summary )

I think the main problem with the BL industry atm is that right now plots are focused on the romance or sexual chemistry between two men instead of an actual storyline. Some of the most beloved BLs from the past such as No. 6, Banana Fish, and (arguably) Yuri on Ice had such success because although they were BLs, that wasn’t the overarching narrative. These mangas instead focused on actual trials and tribulations for their characters to go through and happened to include gay main characters, providing a story that was interesting without it having to be problematic to draw an audience. All of the current mainstream BLs lack a plot outside of how interested these men are with each other (or with whats in their pants) so all they have to work with is the chemistry between these men resulting in repetitive works of fiction that depict the same occurrences, just between different men. While I don’t want to criticize the authors or the artists because they’re just making a living, I do believe that it’s a problem they choose to depict stranger and more problematic relations between men instead of going back to their roots of writing actual stories that include gay men.

What I’m really just trying to say is we need BLs to stray from stories ABOUT boys in love to stories WITH boys in love. Or at least another season of Yuri on Ice.

Period.

Correction: they provided trials and tribulations for their characters to go through OUTSIDE of the fact that they were gay

This is really true. these characters are more than just their sexuality, they feel three-dimensional and have proper character development. You can empathize with them due of their experience, suffering, and growth rather than their sexuality. Even if they weren't gay, these are still great characters.

( but we still not getting that movie, mappa better give Yuri on ice to other studio T^T)

Like being gay is not enough to make a good character, these modern bl webtoons rely too heavily on their characters' sexuality without trying to create a meaningful plot because they know it will sell. Being straight is a form of sexuality, is a straight character a good character simply because they are straight? (NO!!!)

So you’re not a homophobe?

No, I am. as I've mentioned previously, I'm afraid of homosexual men T^T. Also, english isn't my first language. I have phobia with gay men, but i'm fine with queer women, that's what makes me a homophobe.

Oh.. well, why do you hate on an entire group of people. I’m sure you understand that not all gay men are the same. That’s just unfair that you wish for all of them to burn, people that you’ve never even met before who all they want to do is love who they want to love. I’m not saying what you went through should be kept silent about of course and you have all right to be angry about it and angry at those men you fear. I’m just confused why you don’t ONLY hate them and wish death upon them instead of wishing death upon all gay men.

I’ve been through a lot of shit with a lot of shitty guys and I’ve probably only met as many as I could count on my hand that I trust are good people and yet I don’t hate men I have faith I’ll find an actual good one one day. They just all seem to be shitty so far, but I know an actual normal fucking Joe will exist. I just hate their actions and their way of thinking I don’t hate on the person.

If you dont feel like answering that’s fine don’t reply this is just for my own curiosity also sorry if it’s an incoherent or over sharing msg I haven’t slept

I just need to use the power of anonymity to let it out. I don't expect yall to understand, as I also don't owe yall an explanation, but I can't let it go. It wasn't sexually related though.Anyway I don't spread my phobia of gay guys in real life. ( I still want gay men to burn, that's not satire, and I wasn't homophobe before but.. yeah shit happens)

Gayhater lore? What happened mdude

You’re so right. Especially about manhwas always being smutty. Manga’s are generic and tropey while manhwa stories completely revolve around sex. Manhua’s are pretty good except for the fact that they’re so censored and you end up having to read the 700k word novel to get your fill.

Bait used to be believable

Exactly! I always think, “would I still read this if it was straight?”. I used to love reading ANY BL, but I’m not 13 anymore and I need something with sustenance.