Thank you for the thought out and well phrased followup to my comment about dialects. It's rare to find someone who understands that nuances like that bring to life the writing. Instead of a cliched trope we get a quirk that holds interest when dialects are included.
^_^ My first message!
No problem aha. I actually have a soft spot for Bokurani Matsuwaru (I have the English copy on my bookshelf, actually) and Kyuugo in general. The translation was very difficult to read in the print version, but after a few rereads I really liked the choices that were made. I feel like the person we were replying to had the same initial reaction I did, though they didn't think through it enough to consider the asethetic reasons behind how it was translated (as in, it wasn't written that way simply to spite the reader and make it more difficult to process).
I'm willing to translate this manga, but I need Japanese raws and a team to clean/typeset/proof. I have the raws for the latest chapter, but none before it. If it's true that is was dropped, I'd need help, but I can pick it up.
I hope you found a team TT_TT!
it's beautiful story why is dropped? seriously ( ̄ε(# ̄)Σ
Dropped? Did I even read this right? Why??????!!! why so sudden?! (╬ ̄皿 ̄)
Erm guys it's not dropped... The team had copyright issues and had to take off the download links for Canis on their website, but as far as I know they're still working on it! It just takes time 'cause the team members are really busy...
How are they going to circulate the scablafion with copyright issues? Create a locked community with password features? It's the same thing as killing the project, if the publisher came after them.
There are Chinese raus, Fouls youndo it also?
There are Chinese raws, Could you do it also?
No, they just won't release it under their name so the publishers can't find them again, like other teams did before.
And I don't get what you mean by killing the project. I mean, we only get to know Canis thanks to this team who shares it with us, so we should at least respect the fact that they don't have much time right now and a real life going on.
Its as what you say. Lets be all patient. Thats all.
i'm not great at it but if you can find the raws and a translator i can at least try typeset and clean!! if it's still dropped, i mean!
"kill the project" as in 'when a publisher comes after you, you can only privately circulate translations, but if you make it public, they will prosecute you.' not "kill the project" as in 'scanlation kills series." Mind you, I am in the scanlation field, and I have translated quite a few series on this site. I know full well that scanlations are responsible for many success stories with the official release.
If the publishers are after them, it's impossible for them to release it publicly. That's what I'm saying.
I am a translator. I have the raws for the most recent release, but we'll have to get all the releases since the last scanlation stopped.
Geez. IT. IS. NOT. DROPPED.
It's really nice of you, wanting to translate this for us, but instead of stealing someone else's project (they don't own Canis, I'm aware, but they work so hard on it until now, you should respect that) you could contact the team and offer your help, so it would be faster.
And what don't you understand when I say they won't release the next chapters under their names to avoid copyright issues? If you're in the scanlation field, you know that other teams did the same thing before. It's quite simple ; you just remove your credits page, or make another one without your true team's name (and, of course, you don't write on your blog or tumblr or whatever that it's from you)
I don't know why you're still speaking about private releases because I never mentionned that, nor did the team.
Do you have inside information that they will?? There are three chapters out not translated to the knowledge of anyone in this thread. They did make a public announcement it was dropped on their site. That's what we know. The rudeness in your comment seems like speculation and pointless aggression, in return.
After all, no one picked up Wild Adapter for similar speculations like yours after the group dropped it.
Keep me updated!! I'll look as well on my day off from work.
Hey, I really don't want to be rude, but yes, it pisses me off to read that they dropped Canis when it's not true. Check your infos please, because I may sound rude to you, but to me it's rude to this team and their hard work.
From the team's blog : "but to stay on the safe side we decided to stop working on Canis series under bunny's scans name."
And go check their tumblr too. There's a good new.
Yes, its what youve said. They put it in thejr blog that they dont work on it under their actual name. Thats all. Their delay is for reasons of RL not that they dropped it or that they wont share it on public. But of course they wont shout it from the rooftops. They are subtle.
...? I never stated they were dropped, I asked, "How are they going to circulate the scanlation," presuming they were contacted by the publisher. I actually never said the word "dropped" once. I asked YOU for more specific information about what they were planning to do. Other people were the ones who said it was dropped, not me. So I'd appreciate it if you didn't put their words in my mouth.
I offered to translate this because I didn't know if would 100% never read a public reader again. And I was asking people here if they would be interested in trying to do that. There are several scanlation groups that cover the same series. Everywhere I go, I encounter people who really don't understand the time, effort, and risk scanlation members face for doing the work they do. And I'm actually appalled to have this treatment from a reader.
But anyway, since I'm getting nothing from you but misguided "it's not dropped" hate, and no explanation of how the project will move forward with a publisher claim over their heads, I went and look it up myself. For everyone who is interested, this is the only information out there, taken from bunny's scans website:
"Before I give you links... You or may have not noticed we've removed all download links for Canis series and we also removed it from our online reader. We received DMCA claim from Akaneshinsha representative to remove all infringing contest for Canis series. We can't say why for this series alone (since we're working on many other of their stuff), we also got no confirmation if this means there are any negotiations for license.
We were asked to only remove the content, nothing else, but to stay on the safe side we decided to stop working on Canis series under bunny's scans name. But don't worry, we'll be sure to keep Dante's store running and let that be the only hint for what'll happen in near future."
"stop working on Canis series under bunny's scans name," meaning they will circulate the series some other way. So my speculation is they will go through making a whole other scanlation platform to avoid the publisher, and/or be more discrete and have a locked community altogether for private scanlation downloads. That doesn't mean the scanlation won't eventually reach mass manga reading platforms like this place (mangago), but it will mean that we might put the scanlation group at risk, if the publisher finds this place and traces it back to them. We will also likely see larger delays in the scanlation making it to this website.
That's all I needed to know. I found it out for myself. Thanks.
Aaand they're publishing under a different crew name, like I thought. Thanks for the help.
dear-mr.-dante is now covering it.
http://bunnys-scans.tumblr.com/post/161593049534/dear-mr-dantetook-us-long-enough-but-here-it-is
*edit to all: I read that it was dropped. Which is true and untrue, but basically: thanks to everyone who has offered to help me!
It has been dropped by bunny and moved to a different group, but it still has a complete team, and is not in need of a new scanlation. So my services are not needed. Thanks
Hi, I'm the same anon who answsered you before. First, sorry if I offended you because it really wasn't my purpose. At first, I just wanted to inform you that Canis wasn't dropped and an other team was working on it already. I did it because I didn't want you or the other team to work for nothing.
It's true that you didn't say "it was dropped" (like many other comments did), you were just using conditional "if it's dropped" etc. that's why I wanted to correct your assumption. About your question on how they would circulate the chapters, sorry because I thought you were being sarcastic, that's why I didn't explain to you properly like I could have. English is not my mother tongue, and even though I think I speak it rather well, I can misunderstand sometimes. That's also why I asked you what you mean by killing the project, because I really couldn't understand the meaning.
About teams working on the same serie, it's an other matter. Personnally, I think it's really a shame, because as you said, scanlation is a big work so 2 teams working separately and doing the same thing sounds like a waste of time. But of course everyone is free to do as they want and I'm no one to judge. I just have my opinion.
On the other hand, I think you should have check the translator's blog way before this whole discussion. Yeah, of course, you don't really have any obligation to do so, however instead of saying "if it's dropped" you could have seen it wasn't. The team has been subtle enough in this message to explain they wouldn't "officially" scanlate Canis anymore but also they were still working on it.
And about your speculation at the end, well, it's not my fault if you assumed they would do private releases when it has never been mentionned anywhere. You could have just asked them if their releases of Canis would be public or private, the team is pretty easy to contact and I'm sure they would have tell you.
Anyway, there's no use arguing about this forever. Objectively, I think we were both wrong here. I shouldn't have been harsh or rude in my answers, I'm not proud of that because that's really not the kind of person I am in RL, I should have explained to you properly. You had good intentions and wrong assumptions, and you don't seem like a bad person either.
So please, no hard feelings, that really wasn't what I wanted.
we need a comeback